April 15th - The day Ebay died. (Yet another Simple Delivery rant)

[wilcojohnson]

The new Ebay controlled delivery for private Sellers becomes compulsory on April 15th, Ebay will remove the opt out option.

I won't re-hash the many negatives for Sellers around the cost and delayed payments. 

For me the final straw is that the Seller with have to package up the item to weigh and measure it before listing as there is no way of altering or cancelling the postage label once the listing is generated.

22 years with Ebay, this is by far the worst thing they have ever done. So long Ebay, I hope your Business Sellers make you the money you need, because you are killing your Private Seller market.

[retrostuff-n-that]

The most sinister aspect for me, is that Ebay are shouting "Full Protection" without any caveats. You have to delve into the info pages, whereupon you find that you have to comply with the relevant carriers terms and conditions. Most things are not covered by insurance on the Evri network! And it is up to the seller to find out what is and what isnt. As the buyer can choose which delivery method they want, Special Delivery only is presumably out and as jewellery is not covered by Evri or any other postal service through royal mail..... This is just one example. Electronics dont seem to be covered by Evri, so that expensive piece of equipment you are upgrading? Forget reselling that, as if it went by Evri and its lost, you're out of pocket. This is a total joke and just more disingenuous wool over eyes pulling in a more and more tiresome trail of control over sellers by Ebay. 

You now need a doctorate in order to swerve through the minefield. Even then who can be arsed? Your average private seller just wont have any idea.

I listed an old fridge on Facebook Marketplace yesterday. Reminded me of the personals ads you used to put in the newspaper. Oh for the simple days

[lilacpuff]

Gloabl shipping appears to be not working, it's saying contact seller for a postage quote where it used to show an actual price, so I guess thats been temporarily switched off? I guess its so that we cant check and see how much prices are going to skyrocket for global shipping with ebays new controlling simple delivery.

Even if you untick evri it says prepaid royal mail or evri label will be provided and apparently theres a get out clause for ebay so they can force evri if they want.

The buyer will be paying the fee on the postage rates as well, and additionally its more pricey. For example instead of £3.39 tracked 48 its £3.74 for a very basic service. Someone else was saying a £6 service is now £10+ via simple delivery.

And sellers now cannot include their packaging costs in the postage and packaging cost meaning all prices will increase to compensate for this too. I don't think any of us are going to be given packaging and fuel supplies for free but notice how p&p has suddenly become a postage-only fee.  As if sellers can magically absorb those costs and they arent considered anymore.

Ebay is literally cloneing vinted, they have them feeling SO threatened its insane. A platform thats been around for decades scared into changing their entire business model and running members off the site to copy a second hand clothing app.

[lilacpuff]

And weirdly it's showing £3.74 for simple delivery but charging the buyer £4.80...for a small parcel...that you could pay £3.36 via tracked 48 for -_-

[millcottage]

That’s answered my question then.

I currently offer free postage on most of my listings.

i use Royal Mail 48 hour service that costs £3.39 (tracked and insured to £150).

Postman collects and brings a label with them.

if I can’t do above then I will delist what I have left for sale.

i will now use Facebook groups to sell coins, local auctions and for future sales of gold coins go via a bullion dealer. 

[davidninetynine]

THIS IS THE POINT AT WHICH EBID WILL FINALLY BECOME A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO EBAY.

BRING IT ON !

[retrostuff-n-that]

The cost seems to increase with the value of the item. So that's Ebay insuring it?

[helva56]

every good idea,

turns into a business,

and eventually ends up a racket.

[helva56]

A DELIVERY QUOTED BY THE SELLER LAST WEEK AND PAID BY THE BUYER TODAY SUDDENLY TURNS INTO A £25 POSTAGE CHARGE!!!! WHEN THE SELLER TRIES TO GET IT POSTED, THAT'S MORE THAN THE ITEM COST!!

PURE GREED.

[themidnightcaller]

Having not listed now for a couple of weeks i feel a sense of relief it's over.  Calm after the storm.

[tonnesofstuff]

I've been checking it out in the hope that it would capitalise on the situation but it appears to me (and many members on the boards over there) that they just seem disinterested in doing anything to promote it.  Loads of potential converts can't seem to import listings as stated.  With a bit of effort they could grow quite substantially I think.  It's disappointing because I was hoping for a viable alternative, even if it is small, but it doesn't seem to have the necessary backing or impetus behind it which I find a little confusing.

[helva56]

It appears more than a few sellers having listed items pre 15th april are now presented with much greater postage costs due to this latest ebay cash grab which then they are faced with either taking the hit themselves making it pointless in some cases, or informing the hapless buyer the postage cost has more than doubled and asking if they will pay it, resulting in I predict,, a lost cancelled sale.

as this only applies to private sellers, who will not wish to become business sellers with all that entails, I can see facebook marketplace becoming busy in the near future.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

I am only coming on here a couple of times a day (hard habit to break completely) and am also enjoying the break from selling online.  Seemed to enjoy my car booting even more as well....

[retrostuff-n-that]

Well, yawn, Ebay just removed my posts because they contained contents of Chat with Ebay rep.

Contents were that I asked Ebay in chat whether through Simple Delivery, glass is covered for insurance purposes and they replied in the affirmative and pointed me to confirm that with packlink if I was still unsure. Secondly, if the label provided through Simple Delivery is underweight, it will be fine to just use it as normal. Thirdly that something I sent Simple delivery got lost and Ebay seem to have covered it without involving me. Got to laugh at Ebay removing a post which was actually helpful to them. That's Ebay for you :s

I would suggest anyone concerned about insurance should contact Ebay or Packlink in order to get that same confirmation, which should hopefully stand up if there ARE any problems with refunds for loss or breakage. This system is so new and Ebay have not rolled it out with the information to set peoples minds at rest, as per usual. Out of date information files are just standard with Ebay. Agents who have incorrect knowledge and act on that is also standard. 

Hopefully this helps

[lucy_farmer]

'....should contact Ebay or Packlink in order to get that same confirmation....'

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Oh.?... I was certain Packlink had nothing to do with Simple Del....

Have I misunderstood (again😞!) or has something changed?

Or are CS talking a pile of pants again?

[parsley2003]

They are going into marketplace have a deal with them so it could end up like it is here

[retrostuff-n-that]

Who knows? 😞

[wintersdawn1]

Packlink are renowned scammers so hope they're not involved with sd, thought it was just the trial but wouldn't be surprised if ebay have kept this in the dark.

[cartermk]

I have spent a lot of time honing my delivery options to something that works for me. I started out with Evri but queueing up in one top shops for ten minutes before being told that the ycould nt take any more items because their store room was full put me off that after a few such experiences. The I tried Evri pick -up but if you miss  the pick up it results in a whole  lot of pain - they don't necessarlly tell you you've missed the pick-up - just leave you in limbo. I eventually settled on InPost which I can do alongside a supermarket shop and check that here is locker space available. That, of course it isn't,  is not one of their two options available.