So...anyone else put their sales on hold...?

[*maetrix*]

The whole thing is now one big confusing mess...how do you make something which was so simple so complicated?

I've now put all my sales (and purchases) on hold for 3 weeks just to see how this plays out.

By then we'll see how many sellers have had to wait the full 14 days to get "confirmation" that their item has been delivered & whether they've been paid OR whether they're having problems with payouts etc.

[goodibags]

SlowBay sounds cool. I'd use that.

Or how about GroundhogBay? Because every day seems to be the same and the inextricable problems never end?

[andha-21]

SlowBay sounds cool. I'd use that.

Aren't you already?

[goodibags]

I was thinking there'd more iced mango and lime cocktails. THAT kind of SlowBay. 😉

[bittyboy101]

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@goodibags wrote:

SlowBay sounds cool. I'd use that.

Or how about GroundhogBay? Because every day seems to be the same and the inextricable problems never end?

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or how about "changeBay" .... the buying and selling bay that keeps on changing ! 😁

[andha-21]

Slowbay, where Offers mean you pay more! Bring your own drinks.

Entertainment provided for "free". ©️®️™️

[bittyboy101]

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@tressygirl wrote:

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@bittyboy101 wrote:

So if Managed Delivery is not yet been made compulsory on eBay for Private sellers...

I am wondering if I sell something  here today, Post it on Monday morning by Royal Mail Special Delivery and upload my tracking number to eBay... and it gets delivered to my buyer on Tuesday...

Will eBay let my have my money by Thursday ? or will they continue mucking about and delaying MY PAYMENT ???

At the moment I am now a little spoiled with PayPal Instant Payments again on another site... but it's heII now having to redo almost 60 listings when everything was all setup nicely here on eBay until they started ruining things...  

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Not an easy one to give a correct answer to, as some peeps are seeing the Buyer Protection already added to their listings,  therefore payment would follow that with tracking showing delivery,  payout is released 2 days after that date.  No tracking ?  Payout held for 14 days.

Others have been able to withdraw payouts the usual way, no holds.

I cannot see any of your listed items so cannot see if those odd pence,  e.g. 32p  / 78p are showing ,  this a clue that BP,  and all its condition apply to your listings.

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So sorry I missed your reply from this morning tressygiirl

Thanks for that info - I'll bare this in mind and look out for this clue in the item price *if *I do list anything...

[goodibags]

Ebay needs its own reality show, 'Well deep in the thick of it' or something. With a 'Malcolm Tucker' shouting, swearing and tearing his hair out.

All we get to see are the goofy end products and, hilarious as they are, we're missing out on all the drama.

[vintique*violet]

Think it would be more of an xBay

😑

[andha-21]

I was thinking SNL. If they could get Melissa McCarthy and Kate back for it, that could end up being hilarious.

This deserves to be preserved for future generations.

So that boys and girls is what happens when you try to change the shape of the wheel. Don't try to be smarter than you actually are.

[bittyboy101]

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@vintique*violet wrote:

Think it would be more of an xBay

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Yes - Definitely ! - ExBay ! - The buying and selling platform that loves driving people away !

[jasonsdad]

I really enjoyed the whole EBay experience,  kept me busy and interested......    I have always believed in honesty and fairness,  trying to give as best a service as I possibly could.  I was always ethical,  returning overpaid monies to buyers who bought and paid several single items but paying excess postage in the meantime. 

             To say I'm disappointed with what EBay have done to drive away Private buyers/sellers,    I still cannot see what their strategy is,   by reducing trusted longer term supporters of the platform.     I have asked to cancel my 13 year account but will still have to wait a further 12 days and 1 hour before my final funds will be released.  Again I cannot quite understand the thinking/thoughts as to why taking 2 weeks before releasing/paying out funds will encourage growth and increased buying.     

             This has not been done in a whim,  despite the fairly embarassing technical problem of locking thousands of members out of their accounts with the latest 'update/improvement' to the App.     In this respect it can only be concluded that EBay really doesn't want any private sellers on the platform.   

           Good luck to the remainers,  the ones hoping simple delivery won't affect them or their local Post Offices and communities.  I have never been bullied and always stood strong against anyone who tried,  sometimes a little too strong.     EBay can now only be seen as the agressor, the bully....YOU WILL be formatted and told how to operate to feed the top table.     I chose out and will continue to spend my remaining days opposing the bully,   in all honesty what is really wrong with the decent people here,  why is it necessary to discard them ? 

[andha-21]

I get why you feel the way you do, I'm guessing many others do too but you shouldn't let it get you down.

It's a laugh or cry scenario, choose to laugh. 

eBay aren't the only sales point and once what they're doing gets out into the wider public it's only a matter of time before they become the punchline to jokes.

It's inevitable in this world. & as soon as that starts gaining momentum they will have to pause and think, because if the public turns on them, their business is gone.

& no, it doesn't have to be all of them, just the tipping point where things become unsustainable afterwards. They've almost certainly made a huge mistake. See how long it takes for them to realise it.

[jasonsdad]

Thanks for your kind words, whilst I may write my thoughts and feelings and give the negativity associated with this upheaval I always work proactively. I made the decision to jump ship whilst my feet are still dry. I really don’t want to wait around hoping for something to change back as we probably all know this is not going to happen….. it would be far too embarrassing for the senior management team at EBay. The thought of drifting along on a piece of flotsam doesn’t appeal, seems Blackbeard and Captain Hook have taken their plunder. 😀

[andha-21]

*bleep* off shareholders outrank embarrassed senior management. Money talks and bull**** walks. Could turn out to be a very appropriate expression in this scenario.

[goodibags]

"So that boys and girls is what happens when you try to change the shape of the wheel"

Some techie types still think the wheel is just not round enough.

Back in the day (I worked in IT) we would test our program code, to make sure we were happy with the changes. Then sit a user in front of a screen and make sure they were happy with them too. Then you'd run a 'system' test, to check that your changes didn't knock out something else in another part of the system. You'd run stress tests too, in case 50 users tried doing the same thing at the same time. And the whole process was quality assured, so you couldn't even get to step 2 if step 1 failed. You definitely wouldn't 'roll it out' blind as Ebay has done. 

These days all the decisions seem to be made by spreadsheet. It's the same spreadsheet that thinks buyer fees are a good idea or sellers happy if Ebay hangs on to their money or turns them into factory workers that also laid off all the testing and quality checking staff in the first place.

The tech gurus haven't a clue. They made their billions on the backs of other people and probably think they're doing things right. And now want US - the users - to do their donkey work for them. Stuff the fees, maybe we should start demanding payment for our services?

[andha-21]

Yep, I agree with you but I'd also add that there is a large element of psychology in play here too. They think that there are enough people out there that will just suck it up and continue. 

& there in lies their error. Big thinking that is missing very important smaller pieces.

In my field there are 3 huge dealers. 1 is auction only, usually Sunday to Sunday so I've been waiting for theirs to finish to see how they were hit. I didn't watch all their listings, just select ones that I know normal sales prices for and I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they are 15-25% down on their projections for yesterday.

These guys are so big that their auctions usually sell above market price, so if I get 200 for something they'd normally be getting around 250. The amount of followers they have is insane.

But if eBay hits their business and the other 2 and those guys decide that they are better off selling elsewhere, either their own sites or other marketplaces then it won't just be them that walks. It will be a large amount of their followers too. & that is almost certainly the market tipping point for this sector here.

eBay seem to think that people come for eBay, that they are bigger than the individuals that use this site. In the majority of cases they are right, but the minority can truly destroy their business model if they want to.

[andha-21]

Adding to the above, in my sector I recognise I'm small fry, very good at what I do, but tiny. I also recognise that the only reason people are seeing me is because they're coming to see the whales and bigger fish. So if they leave these waters I'd have to be a total cretin to stay.

[goodibags]

Yep, they're definitely trashing their own platform while making too many assumptions about what they'll get away with. I guess you kind of do need buyers if you're running an online retail operation. Who knew?

Less time users spend on site (that's IF they can access it) the less chance they'll buy anything. I used to miss out on auctions all the time.

Look at us, wasting our time down here when we should be listing and buying? They'll be scrapping the community next. TOO MUCH gossiping, get back to work!

Maybe they're running the business down to sell it on? X-bay, as suggested in another thread?

What's the worst that can happen?

[goodibags]

Absolutely. I'm glad I got my 2025 selling done in January. Feb to Dec is looking distinctly 'challenging'.

[lucy_farmer]

'......1 is auction only, usually Sunday to Sunday so I've been waiting for theirs to finish to see how they were hit. I didn't watch all their listings, just select ones that I know normal sales prices for and I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they are 15-25% down on their projections for yesterday......'

So; how did the big boy's action go?

Were the prices normal, or lower than usual?