21-10-2024 3:39 PM
Ebay review on NEGATIVE feeback criteria.
NEGATIVE feedback need only be submitted (by a buyers) if a seller engages in any of the following:
1. Deliberatly misleads / scams
2. Refuses refund (for non delivered or defective items).
3. Non response / resolution to (a warrented) buyer complaint .
2. Abusive / Coercive behaviour.
Buyers, when submitting negative feedback could select from a drop down menu of options incorportating the above criteria.
Sellers need support and protection from unwarented / or unintentional 'negative' feedback given by buyers who do not understand the severity of the 'negative' feedback system and it's damaging effects on sellers businesses.
Please share your thoughts on this idea?... Thanks
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21-10-2024 4:11 PM
Needs to be a 5th criteria:
Using a neg to ask to return an item.
(yeah.... I know it's already *strictly speaking* not allowed, but try getting CS to see that.....)
21-10-2024 4:01 PM
Would No.1 include sellers who are business sellers trading as private sellers in violation of eBay rules and the law?
21-10-2024 4:11 PM
Needs to be a 5th criteria:
Using a neg to ask to return an item.
(yeah.... I know it's already *strictly speaking* not allowed, but try getting CS to see that.....)
21-10-2024 4:52 PM
How dishonest are you?
You are a blatant business trading for free on a private account.
This platform really is a shambles.
21-10-2024 4:58 PM
Feedback is pretty pointless tbh, or at least visible feedback. People will still buy from accounts with 80% feedback and eBay still allow them to trade. If eBay stood up and stopped accounts breaking the law and their own policies we wouldnt need it, if a seller drops to below standard then all funds should be on hold until tracking shows the item has been delivered and feedback received or 60 days has passed (whichever is first), yes some wont like it but if you trade legally and provide a good service you'd never actually be stopped or having your funds on hold.
Biggest issue is the amount of accounts who are clearly breaking both eBay policies and the law which eBay and the sellers dont care about, that needs fixing before anything else.
21-10-2024 5:45 PM
People who live in glass houses....
If, as looks likely, you are a business seller masquerading as a "private" individual, every single sale you make could result in justified negative feedback under your reason no.1, as you are attempting to deprive buyers of their legal rights.
21-10-2024 6:09 PM
Since several people have made the accusation, without even having the courtesy to ASK if the OP is running a business, I hope the OP will return and explain.
In their listings I see masses of used stuff, I can imagine a family like some of those in the BBC "Stacey insults your house" series. Or whatever it's called.
21-10-2024 6:09 PM
Oh the irony.....
Illegal trader comes on the boards moaning about how another successful, legal business runs its highly profitable website
21-10-2024 6:14 PM
Here we go, a business seller on a private account defending another....
The seller in question is clearly a business, you don't need to ask the question, if you do you are extremely naive at best.
21-10-2024 6:47 PM
@howmuchtobid wrote:Here we go, a business seller on a private account defending another....
The seller in question is clearly a business, you don't need to ask the question, if you do you are extremely naive at best.
OK, I don't mind being called naive. So you're (I think) implying I'm running a business as well as the OP.
Please give your reasons in detail. Thanks.
No hurry, I'm on cooking duty this evening, so I'll be AFK for some time.
21-10-2024 7:11 PM
2600 sales, over 90 recent sales, I very much doubt you have not acquired any of these items to resell.
21-10-2024 7:27 PM
It looks like you are a professional drawer emptier !
Westlife CD - you must be a personal seller - no business would try and sell that !
21-10-2024 7:46 PM
Hmmm,i just thought,i need a new coaster 🙄
21-10-2024 11:26 PM
@roger_roger_over_and_nowt @howmuchtobid @dch2112011
🙂 Thanks for a couple of chuckles! I don't feel I owe anyone an explanation, but I'll do so, in hopes that it helps people be more questioning when seeing what they believe to be evidence of businesses reg'd as private.
But first I have to say I hold no brief for @lellyann22 , never encountered them before and I only took a quick look at their listings. They may be a genuine private seller, or they may be running a business based on regular visits to charity shops and boot fairs or wherever, buying clothing to resell.
OK, I'm emptying a lot more than drawers! And perhaps my story will be a life lessson for younger readers. I've had many interests, but primarily electronics, computers and photography. I've hoarded for many decades, things that would be great for projects, if not now then when I retire, I used to think. Even before we moved here 30 years ago I'd had this mindset to such an extent that the removal company took 3 days. And this property is part of a farm, split up in the 1960s, with lots of outbuildings. Just drawers? As if!
Yes, I have bought some items new. E.g. this past weekend I sold a book that I bought new! In the mid-90's it cost me £35, and I've decided I'll never again be interested in low-level Windows system programming, so I sold it and recouped £1. It had been listed for 18 months, I was tempted to throw it in the blue bin, but I'm glad I didn't, I hope the buyer will get value from it.
Of course I'm aware that the definition of running a business doesn't depend on whether one makes a profit. So maybe some would say that book sale means I should register as a business. I'll listen to such views, though with some scepticism.
This evening I've sold a heatsink and fan for a very old PC. That's been relisting since 2017! Some of my items, as I dig through the piles, and test them if I can, sell quite quickly if I price them attractively. In the summer I listed a multimeter from the 1970s, started it at £70, have relisted it lower as the months past, and now got £30 for it. Several of my recent sales were within days or weeks of first listing. But without auto-relist (or, often, ending and relisting, to try to improve visibility) I'd be stuffed.
Why do I do it? "Surely he must be working for far below min wage", you're thinking. And you'd be right; I don't see it as a job. My generation was brought up not to be wasteful. And it's very satisfying when someone buys something they can't find anywhere else, either for a repair, a retro build, or to add to their museum. Or as a prop for film or theatre. It's an uphill struggle though. I ask my wife what she'd like for her birthday and she says "A skip".
Businesses should be registered, so consumers have their rights. Though in practice personally I allow change of mind returns and work with buyers to keep them happy. I imagine a lot of business sellers get heated about rooting out wrongly trading sellers not so much because of consumer rights, but because of the disparity in the fees. And I can empathise with that, but they should vent their anger at ebay, not by going around finding private sellers to bully without even a polite discussion to establish the facts first.
It's by no means the first time I've had this kind of discussion in the forums. Very occasionally I get an apology. More usually they slink off to find someone else to hassle, then yet another forum thread gets derailed.
21-10-2024 11:37 PM - edited 21-10-2024 11:42 PM
oh a sad sad person indeed but brave for publicly selling a westlife C.D
symptoms....really needs to get out more..
treatment...seek reccomended professional medical help....😀😁😃😄😆
22-10-2024 12:28 AM
I am just amazed how anybody could conclude you are a business - I am in awe that you sell anything - no explanations needed - mind you I have upgraded you to shed shoveller and under the bed retriever !
22-10-2024 8:27 AM
I am a private seller and i sell all my families stuff and one of them is a pretty compulsive buyer to put it nicely and i get loads of stuff to sell for them and yet i never (even with the stuff i am still waiting to list) get anywhere near that amount of items. For one thing i do not have the patience or will to list more than a few items at a time, especially clothing which takes forever to photo, measure, describe etc. I do it as a way to get rid of old items, gain a little money (money for family items goes to family members) for myself (and no i do not charge them!) and it keeps me active in my old years!
22-10-2024 8:35 AM
you are correct to some degree but in this case i am pretty sure you are not! No private person will have that many coats to sell for a start. I have plenty of jackets mostly for outside as i also live on a small holding and am out in all weathers but dress jackets/coats, not so many.
22-10-2024 8:56 AM
@howmuchtobid wrote:How dishonest are you?
You are a blatant business trading for free on a private account.
This platform really is a shambles.
I looked a little further than P.1 of their items for sale.
I noticed their 2905 FB as a BUYER.
As opposed to their 571 FB as a seller.
That ebay 's 1.5K items sold figure is (presumably) over 16 years, averaging 90 p.a.
Very few "New" items.
Your usual criteria of selling masses of clothes in a wide variety of sizes is not fulfilled as most seem to be UK 10/12, with a bit of leeway for different brands sizes.
Please explain how you see a "blatant business trading for free on a private account" ?
Or perhaps you just couldn't find anyone else to bait today?
22-10-2024 9:31 AM
😂
It was my 30th wedding anniversary this weekend and my husband asked what I'd like; I should have said 'a skip!'
My husband is *exactly* like you; a hoarder of ancient audio electronica, tools and spares etc (rather than elderly computer bits) and, like you, he has storage units and a workshop etc on a mate's farm. And he's a stamp and coin collecter- albeit that doesn't need too much space, thank goodness!
We've also been trying to sell off the contents of his late parent's home (some stuff been on ebay for *years*) and the contents of a late cousin's home.
'Private' selling can mean more stuff than just clothes, shoes, pictures etc ; especially stuff (like electronica) that would be rejected by charity shops. When you have the 'can't just throw stuff away' mindset, what else can you do with it?!