Does Simple Delivery assume that all private sellers have a printer?

[wintersdawn1]

When simple delivery is made mandatory for private sellers will the process be as follows:

* Purchasing buyer chooses the postage option they want i.e. Royal Mail or EVRI

* Buyer completes checkout, buying the postage from ebay

* Ebay sends the postage label to the private seller

What if a private seller does not have a printer to print the label that ebay sends them?

[dch2112011]

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@lucy_farmer wrote:

(I had a courier company try that on me about 20 years ago when the parcel actually had tyre marks on it...what did they expect it to be 'properly' packed in?  A nuclear waste flask??)

But the delivery driver was holding the parcel at the time when he stepped out in front of a double decker bus !

The packaging survived  protecting the delivery person from serious injury.  

Unfortunately  the parcel 's demise  was when it was run over by an ambulance, two police cars and a curious HGV driver  - So yes the parcel was  obviously not properly packed ! 

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[edwardian-dreams]

Inpost are more reliable than evri

they should grow their business more

theres lockers all over the place unlike evri parcel shops and there’s not the risk of nicking them or throwing them over the fence 

[crn303]

Agree with kath3735_wxmjn

 I also have for several years used Royal Mail happily taking hand written addressed packages and parcels to my local Post Office branch for their handling.

I feel the private seller has been bullied and badly let down by eBay.
Also the buyer is being forced to pay extra for the BPF which in principle has always been there.

 
eBay is no longer worthwhile for the private seller.

I wonder if it can repair the bad feeling they have created in the past 12 months !!

[uk-specials]

Yes that’s the whole point. To either push you pseudo private sellers off the platform and onto Vinted or your

local car boot sale, or convert you to proper business accounts.

You can’t be a private seller with 10K plus sales and a thousand active listings. That’s a business. They want to make life as difficult as possible for people who do that, and judging by all the responses in these threads, it’s working!

[insidethe93]

uk-specials wrote: Yes that’s the whole point. To either push you pseudo private sellers off the platform and onto Vinted or your local car boot sale, or convert you to proper business accounts...

If eBay had been open and up-front about its motives from the start, it would've saved so much unhappy and/or inaccurate speculation. It wouldn't have felt sneaky or passive aggressive. It would've saved shock, unhappiness and bewilderment for customers (private sellers, buyers, and business sellers - we're all interconnected to a greater or lesser degree).

Without such an announcement by eBay customers have been left to speculate, and been forced to endure one whammy after another (the latest, SD, is to come, though eBay has indicated it could be softened).

Why would eBay go about this so indirectly (with BPF, withholding private sellers' money for up to 14 days if the transaction's over £10) that the message isn't getting through? That's given rise to speculation that eBay's motive is greed, otherwise .why a flat fee AND a percentage in BPF, or hold onto sellers' money for so long leading to questions about does eBay pocket the huge interest generated sitewide.

eBay could and should contact all private sellers saying, "please look at your account in the light of tax and legislation, and convert to a business account where applicable; you have a month to do so, after that we'll go after those whom our records show should do so by imposing long-term payment holds or closing accounts; also, from now on private sellers are restricted to listing only 100 items per month".

[uk-specials]

They do do that, literally all of the time. And pseudo private sellers make up BS stories about “I’m just selling off a collection guv, honest”. Yeah right.

There’s no point engaging with people in good faith who are just out to scam for whatever they can get. eBay have learned that the hard way over 20+ years of trying to deal with this issue.

So now it’s time just to make life difficult for the pseudo privates, and it’s working like a dream. People who have been “selling off their collection” of toot from charity shops for 10-15 years are all jumping ship. Good luck to them and good riddance.

[eastern-lights]

I've just noticed that I now have a selection under Postal Preferences where I can select Evri or Royal Mail or both for Simple Delivery. Both are selected by default. When you deselect one you get asked why you don't like that one. I'd love to see the results of that!

Not that I've had SD inflicted on me yet but they are obviously getting ready.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/ship/prf

[wintersdawn1]

Great link, thanks!

[vinylscot]

You were doing so well, up until that last part.

By all means eBay PLEASE go after the pseudo private sellers who are obviously trading on these accounts. But lay off the genuine private sellers getting rid of lifetime collections. Their listings were recently reduced to 300 new listings per month, and let's be honest - that's fair. It's ten listings a day - an hour out of the day for a retired person shifting their collections which their children don't want. 

Your comment is just another example of the unnecessary conflict between business sellers and genuine private sellers. Both groups are pretty much on the same side; both have a real interest in getting rid of the fraudulent "private" sellers.

[dene567]

😂😂😂😂😂

[deadwaxsecrets]

I bought myself a small thermal printer ages ago to do my own adhesive labels, Royal Mail either forgot to bring the label with them or, never turned up for any booked collections. Any one considering a thermal printer option the Jadens model on Amazon is great, 4x6 labels & Bluetooth with app support.

[gwilliamb]

Re "I've got to put my hand up to being one of the few remaining adults without a smart-phone.

But I really don't want one : I've enough self-knowledge to realise, that if I have the internet in my pocket at all times, I'll never read a book again."

More to the point, you'll have to buy the phone, then pay £30 per month to a phone company. Not good if you are a pensioner! BTW you also have to buy a new phone every 3-5 years because the manufacturer stops providing security updates for the phone you bought.

[gwilliamb]

"As far as I can tell, Ebay expect us to pack the item when we list it so we can put in the correct weight and dimensions so they choose the right postage when the listing is complete."

- So what if a buyer buys multiple items? Which may be multiples of the same item, or several different items bought at the same time. Do sellers have to send each item in a separate parcel??

[dene567]

Thanks. Not happy with the mucks ups when l listed an item using Simple Delivery. When it becomes compulsory l will think twice before listing on ebay if they don't get the bugs sorted out.

[wintersdawn1]

According to another message on here simple delivery does allow multiple items purchased and lowers the postage cost a bit for the additional items.

[centenary137]

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@insidethe93 wrote:

"........also, from now on private sellers are restricted to listing only 100 items per month".

This is all EBay had to do and limit true private sellers to a maximum 100 items a month. Unfortunately, real private sellers are now being clobbered and giving up. Ive got items that will now either have to be given away or just retained. Car boots dont appeal to me.

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[xh_-6912]

Everything I sell is sent via royal mail with a proper label so I can drop it off in the parcel box, or if it's too big for the parcel box then I just arrange next day free collection. 

If they are now only going to issue post office QR codes (Royal Mail is not the post office) instead of Royal Mail postage labels, then I'll close my personal account, having already closed my business account and transferred stock elsewhere. 

[dene567]

I agree, l had the same problem. Simple Delivery will be compulsory soon and I won't be listing anything else, if at all,  until the bugs are sorted.

[robscuriosities]

They are gently nudging you to buy one.  There are plenty on, er, ebay.

In reality, you will be given a QR to take to the post office, you can print it out (see above), or they can scan your smartphone.  If you haven't got one of those, there are plenty on, um, ebay.

[dene567]

I agree with everything you've said. It is also an excellent excuse to keep seller funds up 14 days and accrue interest while telling the assuring the seller it is for their own safety.

There is nothing like taking people for fools 😂😂😂😂😂