The NEW LOOK eBay

[baillin-0]

Simple question. Do you think these new changes they have introduced a good or a terrible move?

For me personally they are bad because I will have to leave.

Simple Delivery just doesn't work for what I sell, lots of people on here saying the same. 

Big question is what are the benefits for buyers or sellers cannot see any myself?    

[3112nickir]

I am a private individual, who is selling on that basis, and am attempting to sell surplus to requirements now, all of my old rubber stamps and dies, and on reading the feedback on the changes Ebay have made and are still making, I am interested in selling on other platforms, as well as Ebay.   Are you aware of any other platforms, apart from Etsy and Shopify where I could sell my products, because I am sure there are some platforms out there for these kinds of products, but google does not seem to list them all, just the usual Etsy and Shopify is what they show, and I feel sure there are more options than just these two platforms.

Thank you.

[bythesea999]

These new changes are terrible for me, I have been buying and selling for over 20 years and not had many problems was quite happy with the old way, I would wait for special offers for sellers to sell and use that, the BPF is ridiculous and not necessary, prices look ridiculous AND too high,  so lowered my prices to get a sale to clear my unwanted stuff, I would know exactly what the item would cost to send and charge buyer the actual cost that RM would charge me, I was in charge of getting my stuff to my buyer the way that worked for me ie take to my local PO and send, items were tracked anyway so if item did get lost I would refund the buyer and claim on RM on the very rare occasion necessary. With the money from my sales I would browse and buy on here and spend approximately the amount what I had sold.

With stupid delivery it does not take into account the small items which can easily fit in large letter and do not need tracking as small value, for all the sellers that do not have a printer, a smart phone, have difficulty getting to a PO or courier delivery drop off point who just used a letterbox and stamps - all these small and simple ways of posting out sales worked on the whole - so if it ain't broke why fix it.

I took all my listings down on the 6th April, to see what happened, as really didn't want the hassle of being told how to send my personal items out, the loss of control and the hassle with the new way of sending made me stop selling and stop browsing, so am not really spending any money on here now except for certain items which I need but certainly not browsing anymore to see what I can buy. 

I have since relisted a couple of my items just to test the water, opting out of SD again, so will see what happens should I get a sale.

MAKE SD OPTIONAL.

REVERT TO SELLERS FEES AND GET RID OF BPF 

This nonsense advertising of "IT'S FREE TO SELL"  is ridiculous - because of BPF - more unlikely to actually sell anything, also had to reduce my price to incorporate this fee, so does not make it free to sell in my eyes.

I won't be selling anywhere else, can't be bothered with the hassle of starting on a new site,  really annoyed and disappointed at ebay.

THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFITS FOR ME AS BUYER OR SELLER.

[theelench]

I've just done the same with a rare Bagley table lamp, as I've no idea what price to put on it I've added BO, something I rarely do.

Half an hour later its already got a Watcher, I expect a few more in the next day or two.   From last years experience apart from (perhaps) some insultingly low offers, that's all I expect from ebay  --  Watchers looking for a fire sale price so they can re-sell at a nice fat profit.

With the BPF the price potential buyers are being shown is £20 above my BIN price, so if I was selling cans of beans that would push buyers towards business sellers.  But as my lamp is (apparently) the only "Bagley Tulip Lamp" for sale on ebay ATM, showing the inflated price is of no help to anyone.  It just makes my lamp look more expensive.

I think most serious collectors have already left.  Like @moonlight-rhapsody  said, I'm using google/shopping to browse and I'm sure others are as well.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

Why should people have to like the changes?  Why should we not complain about them?   Only by complaining/leaving will those changes (maybe) reconsidered.  Why should we have to accept them lying down?   By not using those who do not take cash (and i agree with you) how will they know how you feel if you do not tell them.  If enough tell them and they realise how much they may be losing they might (just might) change their minds and start taking cash again. 

[kath3735_wxmjn]

you are also quoting that the 'majority of the thousands' and yet you do not know what is really happening.  From these boards it appears that a lot of sellers are only now becoming aware of what is happening and are not happy.  Never seen so many new contributors to this forum!   I for one will not be going to Vinted, i have already go another site set up without the farce of SD.

[morseidiot2]

I can only speak for myself.

SD is hassle for me as I live out in the sticks, before SD it worked well I did click and collect, the postie picked it up job done. I'm not going to be travelling all over the place to Evri /RM drop off points at my expense to fund Jamies bonus and Ebays profits.

BPF is horrendous on a single postcard, and I can no longer combine postage, therefore I've been selling them elsewhere although I've also been selling them here, just not as many.

For the first time last week I sold more on other sites than here.

The biggest change for me is I no longer buy Cigarette Cards or Postcards or indeed anything else on Ebay. I'm now finding that private sellers on Facebook Card groups are a far better and cheaper source without the hassle.

So the upshot of the changes for me are I no longer buy anything on Ebay ,after all most of the things I want are available elsewhere and cheaper, and as I pay for Prime they arrive faster as well !

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"Why should people have to like the changes?  Why should we not complain about them?   Only by complaining/leaving will those changes (maybe) reconsidered.  Why should we have to accept them lying down?   By not using those who do not take cash (and i agree with you) how will they know how you feel if you do not tell them.  If enough tell them and they realise how much they may be losing they might (just might) change their minds and start taking cash again. "

I believe Uber has started taking cash again.  Also I was in Tesco a while back when all their systems went down, and they had staff at the door telling people that they could only buy things if they had cash to pay.  Until systems are foolproof and hackproof (which will never happen), cash has a role to play.

[baillin-0]

I'm with you, on us being able to moan and complain about these new changes, that only seem to benefit eBay and nothing for us.

Wish I was clever enough to be able to work out, how much worse off we are now selling and buying than before. That's if we do "Grin & Bear it" and stay

I would have to be a Rachel Reeves for that?

In the mean time we can only keep hoping and watching for eBay doing a "U" turn on these changes.

Personally I've got better things to do.  

[insidethe93]

Cash will have a role to play unless it's forcibly removed from circulation.

In rural places many small shops prefer cash (even if they don't say), whether re a card machine mobile and internet (and electricity supply) are dodgy or not. A lot of the rural economy runs on cash though it's not always obvious. When I had to move for a job, I had to learn quickly.

Cash is handy giving to buskers, beggars, charity collectors at your door or on the street or outside a supermarket e.g. buying a poppy, cash into a bucket for charities (carol-singers; firework displays).

If you donate by cheque or online to charities or other organisations or to sponsor someone, they require your name & address or email address, which means you go on a mailing list, or many mailing lists as they pass on your details, but cash into a collecting tin retains anonymity/privacy. Or cash to family, especially the grand-generation as cash makes it easier to be even-handed.

Even where other payment methods exist, many prefer cash to pay various trades or to tip (e.g. gardeners, hairdressers, cafes, restaurants, taxis), pay club memberships and pay for refreshments/raffles, pay back that tenner a friend lent you, divvy up the bill at a restaurant, pay a bribe or hire an assassin.

[snowdrop857]

I haven't sold anything for a few months, came back here today everything about selecting your postage has changed. I use to sell 40 items a month now feel it's too much hassle to sell.

[baillin-0]

Nothing wrong paying with cash.

I always carry some cash and use it for small purchases.  I do it because I don't want my bank statement looking like a thick magazine end of the month.

You must admit though its a pain when stood behind a jet setter buying a sandwich & a coke for lunch at the supermarket , who try to pay with a card and when it doesn't work get their phone out only to find its  their wives/husbands, Then look round hoping because they don't carry cash, we will have a whip round for (him/her) so they don't go hungry. 

Almost as bad as going out for Chinese with someone who will only use chopsticks but get me to tie a bib round their neck before we start eating.

Bloody show-offs.

Did you mentioned Assassins, would love one, take one with me next time I go shopping.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

you forgot the very important car boots - cash is essential there!

[crn303]

Good posting …. Nice to read something humorous.

[mawels_87]

Cash is King. I use case more than anything else. So many times ive been in shops where all the computers are down where they can only take cash at the till. Using cash it's much harder for big brother to track every transaction.

[akemp1]

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@3112nickir wrote:

I am a private individual, who is selling on that basis, and am attempting to sell surplus to requirements now, all of my old rubber stamps and dies, and on reading the feedback on the changes Ebay have made and are still making, I am interested in selling on other platforms, as well as Ebay.   Are you aware of any other platforms, apart from Etsy and Shopify where I could sell my products, because I am sure there are some platforms out there for these kinds of products, but google does not seem to list them all, just the usual Etsy and Shopify is what they show, and I feel sure there are more options than just these two platforms.

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There are other places you could list them however if you only have the small volume listed to sell then it's probably not worth spreading across too many platforms as you have probably already identified the most appropriate platforms for the category. It's mostly a choice of if you are happy to wait for them to hopefully sell at higher prices or are happy to lower the prices to get them sold quicker. I've found if you have enough active listings then it's usually possible to use pricing to create whatever rate of sales you desire.

[baillin-0]

just a thought I am all for using cash as well. who knows what it would be like without it.

Big Brother springs to mind! I was in Russia and some of the communist countries in the 1960s maybe its a bad comparison, (but who knows) if you saw how bad it was when the state takes over and controls and watches how you spend your cash, think you would stick with what we have now. 

[*maetrix*]

No benefits at all from the new changes - all the decisions have been idiotic,made by a complete idiot.

2 sales for me in 6 weeks says it all - I can see this being my first ever month on here without a single sale.

There is a saying that "money makes the world go round"....eBay's little world has ground to a halt.

Anyone know their sales figures yet for this year?

[*maetrix*]

Same thing happened with Co-op last week after their "cyber attack" - would only take cash and their rows of shiny new self-service machines were all sat there totally useless.

[baillin-0]

Cannot get my head round it, that the clever people at eBay have not given it some thought that Simple Delivery is not for a lot of people, and that most would sooner leave than be forced to use it.

Saying this because I am one of them,

I only sell postage stamps so for me the quickest & easiest way is to post them in a envelope by Royal Mail.

All the years doing so I can count on one hand any go missing, but when they did I refunded the buyer right away.

That's another thing why do I need this Buyer Protection? in the past I did that for the buyer myself. 

Keeping my fingers crossed they might still reverse it back to before? but doubt it ??   

[thetrackz]

Not me. I don't have a printer and don't think I should have to buy one for ebay.