R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

The introduction of the eBay Buyer Protection fee of 75p plus 4% of the value of goods,  effective from 19th February 2025 has effectively killed off eBay (UK).

 

Buyers have walked away and Private Sellers are now forced to drastically reduce their prices to try to compete with 'Business Sellers', who are not subject to the eBay Buyer Protection fees.

 

It's a great shame, and unless eBay's management team in San Jose, California see the error of their ways, and quickly, there will be nothing left to salvage from the wreckage !!

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

they are the worst as well and then go all outraged when called out over it!

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025


@kath3735_wxmjn wrote:

they are the worst as well and then go all outraged when called out over it!


They break the laws but we are the bad guys for calling them out. I have had a few nasty comments for pointing it out, and not even from the person themselves. 

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

I keep trying to say this, but it almost feels like people get so invested in their negativity that they become protective and defensive of it.

But when you consider ebay has a userbase of millions, I think these boards would be barely functioning from the immense load of traffic if the issue was as widespread as people claim.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

you mean SOME buyers are being put off!  I have still made sales and i have still purchased.  Agreed a lot depends on what you are selling but none of my items are exactly high priced.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

 


@valleyrc1 wrote:

I keep trying to say this, but it almost feels like people get so invested in their negativity that they become protective and defensive of it.

But when you consider ebay has a userbase of millions, I think these boards would be barely functioning from the immense load of traffic if the issue was as widespread as people claim.


I don't know about that.  I struggle sometimes to find a properly registered seller for the things I fancy. 

 

For example, one of my searches today was for Georg Jensen, one 'private' seller had sold more than 30 christmas decorations at £30 each and still had more than 10 for sale.

 

I think the fake private sellers that post on the boards are the tip of the iceberg.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

oh that old theory, so anyone who disagrees with you works for e bay!   What a load of twaddle.  I am over 70 and sell on here as a pastime, if i do not like the t & cs enough i will leave - that in my case will be when SD comes in.  As i said i am an older person, stubborn when i want to be and when it comes to how to post my parcels i will be very stubborn.  I will also not be wasting my time on here bemoaning the fact.   I did not like the managed payments when it came in but i gave it a chance and have never had a problem.  Same with the BPF and the wait for money, i cannot say i am in agreement with either but the BPF has not affected my sales so far (more sales this feb than last year actually) and as for the wait i am not desperate for the money so it is not a problem and they have paid out exactly when they said they would.  Mind you it would be nice if e bay did pay me!!!

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

okay how can i get on the gravy train?   Could sell a mug with chocolates on the car boot next month!!!  

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

save your breath, you will never convince the conspiracy theorists!

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

"Ha ha you need to lower your expectations. I had a mug with chocolates and a few Ebay notebooks and stickers 🙂 They were nice and a token of appreciation."

 

So I'm probably aiming at an egg cup with a mini egg?

 

 

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

I think we have crossed wires, here.

What I'm saying is that if sales were being affected by BPF as much as posters on here are are adamant they are, we would be seeing 100x the traffic, regardless of their definition of "private"




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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

I constantly get accused of being paid by ebay simply for pointing out that there's always several busy threads about poor sales 24/7 on here and not just NOW

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

@valleyrc1 

That's a bit of a logical fallacy as it assumes this is a closed circuit. If something goes wrong there, people only come here.

 

But my experience of people is that most will simply take the easiest way out. If they don't like what is happening here they will simply go elsewhere and that many can do without too many headaches.

There may be some very specific, rare items that don't have a secondary site, but for most general items, options exist.

 

& we aren't all saying that BPF is the sole cause of issues. Personally I believe the biggest cause to date was the app update where they blocked users from using the app. Some of the phones being mentioned were extremely popular and I reckon what we're seeing on the help threads is the tip of the iceberg.

Also delayed payments will be causing issues. Hobbyists sell so they can buy, unless they are millionaires or above. So if you cut down their spending abilities which delayed payments will definitely do, then you cut down purchases.

But even that isn't as simple as BIN. If I don't have free money to spend I don't bid on auctions I'm interested in. Before I would. Win or lose my bid still raises the price. Add others into that mix and prices go higher still.

Remove the bids and the auctions crash out lower than they normally would. & then if that continues the problem is bigger as auctions basically define market worth for readily available secondhand items. Once the buyers click on to the fact that the items they want are bottoming out in auction why are they going to pay BIN prices that are higher?

Sone will, sure, but most won't.

So now 2 markets are in a potential death spiral and the only way private sellers of readily available BIN products can completely avoid that is by listing elsewhere.

None of the above helps eBay, quite the opposite in fact.

The CEO is even on record saying they think Buyer Sellers are their most important userbase and what they've done hits them hard. Unless they are rich enough for the selling side to simply be a non factor.

 

 

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

Well like I said, people seem incapable of seeing their own personal situation in proportion to the bigger picture.

If a site with millions of sellers was in a "death spiral" you'd barely be able to use these forums due to traffic overload.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

Considering well over 90% of your posts say basically the same thing, pot, kettle, black springs to mind.

You're locked into a single perspective and fair enough. But I'm nobodies puppet so don't expect me to follow the leader, especially when they lack the mental alacrity to argue with me lucidly.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

It's not a matter of opinion or perspective that there have always been busy threads about slow sales on here, always been threads about people threatening to take the football and go home over the latest change ebay has implemented and that the current traffic on these boards is not proportional to a website with million of users being in a "death spiral"

Those are matters of fact.

It's also a matter of fact that outdated phone operating systems that have had security patches discontinued for several years are a security liability.

Less than 5% of ALL Android phones in the UK are still running Android 10. IOS is just over 3% What percentage do you really think are using the Ebay app?


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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

When you learn to read and understand what someone else says, maybe your rebuttals will make some sense.

As it appears you don't 

"traffic on these boards is not proportional to a website with million of users being in a "death spiral"

I didn't say that. What I said was,

"So now 2 markets are in a potential death spiral"

and taken in context with the prior text it infers future tense. It was simple follow through logic, 1 thing leading to another.

Seemed to slip past you. Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

There go the goalposts....

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

you do realise that your threads also are saying the same thing?   Why does someone have to be anyones puppet just because they do not agree with you?

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

and that comment sums you up and confirms my original comment.

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R.I.P eBay (UK) ------>> 19th Feb 2025

Ebay do not promote this forum and it is well hidden in ebay's help section so the amount of unhappy people posting here may only be the tip of the iceberg.

 

Those who are unhappy posters here could be multiplied many times because of those who are unhappy but do not know this forum exists.

 

I also believe this theory explains why ebay do not censor too much regarding negative comments about them or alternative selling platforms mentioned as they know that only a tiny fraction will see such posts.

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