Does Simple Delivery assume that all private sellers have a printer?

[wintersdawn1]

When simple delivery is made mandatory for private sellers will the process be as follows:

* Purchasing buyer chooses the postage option they want i.e. Royal Mail or EVRI

* Buyer completes checkout, buying the postage from ebay

* Ebay sends the postage label to the private seller

What if a private seller does not have a printer to print the label that ebay sends them?

[insidethe93]

5216elisabeth wrote: ...Royal Mail shoving them into letterboxes, if they didn't fit they just bent them until they did!

At Google Images search "photo sharon dea's vinyl record folded in half by the postman and put through her letterbox".

[crg_music]

Its another situation where 99.9% of people will be able to either print or provide the qr so they wont care about the small handful that cant. I think cost + choice will be more of a reason sellers leave.

[hail.caesar]

I've read a couple of posts that said if the seller offers free delivery then it's excluded from SD, leaving the seller to bear the cost of posting but free to choose their own carrier, is this right?

[jma2815]

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@xxxxxvalkyriexxxxx wrote:

Does  anyone even know when this is happening? I was told by an Agent that listings would be automatically updated this week, nothing as of yet.

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‘By the end of Quarter 1’ (so about six weeks at the outside) seems to be the best info we have at the moment. I stopped selling last weekend so I don’t know how far BPF has been rolled out. 

I’m just still here because I have recent sales and am in the middle of a return. Once all that’s done I’ll probably close my account. 

[jma2815]

So the AI bot looking at weight might offer ‘letter’ or ‘large letter’ as options but you’d need ‘small parcel’? I noticed years ago that on the order page its always said ‘buyer has selected large letter’ in the postage box even though I sold clothes and of course, bought my own postage. I thought it was just a redundant part of an American style order page or something. 

[henry_tree92]

The extra hassle of selling will put a lot of people off listing things, having to weigh and print out your own labels can be a pain in the neck(I know from experience). Especially if you're adding in having to put in customs codes etc for international sales. I'm guessing around 70% or so of the packages I receive from other sellers on eBay have my address hand written on them.

Plus from what I've seen, I havn't looked into it too deeply yet, some of the items aren't insured for as much with Royal Mail through SD as they are by sending through Royal Mail directly for roughly the same price.

If they force SD for all sales it will massively increase the price of postage for buyers along with the new buyers fees, and will obviously have an affect on sales.

You're already insured up to £20.00 with Royal Mail if you send items untracked but get the proof of postage receipt when you are posting an item.

[andha-21]

Yes. That's how I understood it from the start. The bot or possibly even preprogrammed database has item weights and automatically assigns what it views as appropriate postage options.

If that is really what they are doing and they haven't made any official announcement to counter those concerns then they've probably lost most of the private sellers that deal in fragile objects. Things that have to be packed certain ways so they survive transit.

[bitsandbobsvintage]

FAQ on Simple Delivery says you can opt out when creating a listing.  Interested to know why you believe Simple Delivery is going to become mandatory please

[andha-21]

Because they announced it would become mandatory in Q1 and to date they haven't made any announcement to counter that.

*Mandatory for private sellers*

[wintersdawn1]

Someone posted that the Ebay CEO said he wanted Simple Delivery to be mandatory by quarter 1 of 2025 so maybe by the end of March as a guess.

[lucy_farmer]

'Interested to know why you believe Simple Delivery is going to become mandatory please'

Because the CEO of ebay said so. And I believe him.

(CEOs and big business bods in general don't like looking silly. And if he says *this will happen*, he's going to look a right plonk if it doesn't.... )

[henry_tree92]

Apparently they are rolling it out to include other categories, other people have said on the forums that the CEO was quoted as saying he intends to make it mandatory in the UK. I havn't seen or read the details from what he apparently said, so I don't know the details or accuracy of what other people have been claiming.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

well plenty of us have seen it,  it has been printed and repeated on these threads plenty of times!

[goodibags]

"if he says *this will happen*, he's going to look a right plonk if it doesn't"

There is also a way for him to backtrack like all great leaders and announce that to keep ALL our platform's users happy we're making it optional. To big cheers from the audience, shareholders and all.

Besides, roll out might just be a complete disaster. Ebay do these too.

At this early stage I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 😁

[myriad*seller]

RM will print labels if you get them to collect your parcels from your house 

[hugothecockapoo]

Also  you often receive a dull looking in thin air response from the counter buddy...   the printer is down  !  sorry they did not drop of any labels ! and the best one!...you will have to come back tomorrow as we have no space left in the back....😡..

[andha-21]

Good information, I didn't know that but not much help if the buyer selects Evri. Unless they do it too of course. Maybe they all have printers in their personal cars..

The sarcasm isn't directed at you. I'm aiming at the big thinkers with that.

[goodibags]

"Maybe they all have printers in their personal cars"

Slightly off topic, but I had a builder come round to quote for clearing the (small terraced house) gutters. He made some comments about tricky access then disappeared into his van just to print off a quote for me. He wanted £180!

It was as if he wanted ME to pay for his new toy?

The outcome was another guy came and did the lot for £50!

[a45heaven]

AND HOW WILL THIS HELP KEEP THE LOCAL POST OFFICE OPERATING?

AND ALL BECAUSE EBAY WANT MORE MONIES.

[manyjamjar]

As 10th feb is here, has  SD started in the selected category  ?