Does Simple Delivery assume that all private sellers have a printer?

[wintersdawn1]

When simple delivery is made mandatory for private sellers will the process be as follows:

* Purchasing buyer chooses the postage option they want i.e. Royal Mail or EVRI

* Buyer completes checkout, buying the postage from ebay

* Ebay sends the postage label to the private seller

What if a private seller does not have a printer to print the label that ebay sends them?

[kath3735_wxmjn]

Okay i have to admit i am a dinosaur as well.  I do not want a smart phone, i do not need a smart phone so why should i have to get one.  Answer is, i do not, because i will not be using SD when it arrives.  I do have a printer but as we all know they are not always the most reliable of machines!   What about those people who cannot afford either, i thought e bay was designed for everyone not just those with the ability to afford technology.  

[andha-21]

Do we know yet which way round the Standard and Express delivery are, i.e. which is Royal Mail and which is EVRI?

I don't know how right they were but someone was posting on another thread along the lines of "the system is automated and chooses whichever carrier has the best coverage in a specific area".

[andha-21]

Free charity shop ceramic mugs anyone?

[insidethe93]

I have a smartphone only 'cos hubby bought it for me as a surprise (shock). Never used it. It's also lost in the house, no longer charged. He's still paying the running costs. The fact that I've always bought a large-button non-internet phone, which I don't always take with me, should've told him something 🙂

But I do have an "ordinary" digital camera, one of those fairly cheap point-press-pray types. I'm sure lots of people have those? Maybe a PHOTO of the on-screen QR code would work?

Only one of the post offices I use has an electric socket that _might_ be used by a customer (I wonder if post offices and business premises generally are designed that way). It's a post office in the back room of the postmistress' house so she might allow you to use one of "her" sockets.

[andha-21]

It's a post office in the back room of the postmistress' house so she might allow you to use one of "her" sockets.

Well that does sound interesting. Where exactly can one locate such a fine lady?

😝

[insidethe93]

Hopefully there's space for you to attach your labels while they (RM, Evri) serve the next customer or go off and do whatever they get up (have tea, chat amongst themselves, sort a few parcels?).

[jma2815]

I have no printer, smart phone (absolutely no need for one on a highland farm) or transport. 

Once SD comes in the only solution is to stop selling completely because that’s something I’m willing to change, unlike the three things above. 

[xxxxxvalkyriexxxxx]

Does  anyone even know when this is happening? I was told by an Agent that listings would be automatically updated this week, nothing as of yet.

[xxxxxvalkyriexxxxx]

This confuses me as I was told by 3 different agents that ongoing listings would be updated automatically by them. I have no package weights on my listings as I sell tiny items. I asked if I had to manually edit each listing and was told no. The whole thing is so suspect that I have put my account on Holiday as I have no intention on 

sending out any items without 'protection' for us 'sellers' i.e E bays tracking codes as it is an invitation to any buyer to say the item hasn't arrived.

I have no idea how the QR code will work for me as i'm housebound... so this is going to be fun -.- 

[andha-21]

Yes, I read exactly the same thing regarding the system updating information automatically and that is why I decided I was not going to use Simple Delivery. 

I sell Warhammer models, mostly built. The small ones can be virtually weightless but because of their dimensions I have to use Small Parcel size. But then you have to pack for that. Small parcel size covers upto 2kg which means my box has to be able to survive sorting and transit with those. So I basically do fortress packing.

An automated system that only looks at product weight will not account for that.

So for now I've stopped, learning what I can and seeing what options I have.

[wintersdawn1]

I believe I read on here that existing listings would have the buyer protection fee added but the postage options would stay the same as when we listed the item.

Any new listings - we will be able to opt-out of simple delivery until it becomes mandatory.  I don't think anyone knows when simple delivery will be implemented, either optional or mandatory.

[lucy_farmer]

'I sell mostly 7" singles from my collection,'

Well keep your fingers crossed for the 'restricted list' escape hatch!

Vinyl is also on the 'no-compensation' list ......

[insidethe93]

andha-21 wrote: Well that does sound interesting. Where exactly can one locate such a fine lady?

In rural Northumberland if she's staying in. Right now she's probably having her tea. 🙂

[papso22]

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@a45heaven wrote:

Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.

If im responsible then EVRI will not be making an appearance on the listings i pay for.

My responsibility - i respect and value my customers ( yes an alien sentiment to ebay) , as such i refuse to use an inferior postage service EVRI - id prefer to cancel any order first

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You are a business seller, you won't be subject to Simple Delivery. 

[the-nutwood-collection]

Never rely on printing EVRi labels at the parcel shop.  I used to hand my EVRi parcels in at the Tesco Express and at least 30% of the time the label printing machine was unavailable.  Sometimes it had no labels, at other times the machine was non-operational, waiting for an engineer to fix it - which could take weeks.

I am the proud possessor of a printer, so the EVRi label machine's hissy fits didn't bother me.  Trouble is, Tesco stopped accepting EVRi parcels because of all the aggro with the machine and the abuse their staff received when the machine was non-op.

Now, I have to hand EVRi parcels into the Post Office.  A Post Office that has many customers that have recently arrived from Pluto and want to learn all about the UK's postal network and then can't find the QR code on their phone.

EVRi gets a lot less business because the PO queue brings out the angry toddler in me.  Shame, because EVRi is cheaper than RM - but my time is precious.

[goodibags]

"Vinyl is also on the 'no-compensation' list"

Wow! It makes you wonder what the couriers are doing with 7" records? Playing frisbee?

[5216elisabeth]

I heard a story about Royal Mail shoving them into letterboxes, if they didn't fit they just bent them until they did!  One unhappy seller who stopped sending records with Royal Mail...  Perhaps the old Hermes staff did that years ago too.

[lucy_farmer]

'.....shoving them into letterboxes, if they didn't fit they just bent them until they did!....'

I heard the old joke (hopefully it was a joke...) about those re-inforced envelopes with 'Photographs ; do not bend' written on.

And some wag of a postie folding the envelope in half, and writing 'oh yes they do!' on it.......

[vintique*violet]

No only a printer or possibly an up to date smartphone (QR codes) ... but a tape measure and scales to calculate correct parcel size and weight so that you purchase the correctly priced label - 

I am assuming here as not used SD and as it is unmanageable for me, never will. 

Edit to add... @wintersdawn1 

[wintersdawn1]

Yes, I believe in order for the right postage cost to be shown to the buyer  we have to package the item, measure and weight it at the time of listing it.

Apparently SD is optional to begin with but will become mandatory but not sure about when it will be rolled out.