NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[rugbyguy1960]

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[parsley2003]

I had that they made me so ill i didn't care was just glad to leave. One of the bosses was really worried i would go to a tribunal but it just wasn't worth it, the stress was bad enough going through sick assessments. Having been told some very interesting information about this lot don't think that they would really want any more trouble with the law 

[wintersdawn1]

@rugbyguy1960 Thanks anyway, I'm over the limit as well.

[rugbyguy1960]

I am sorry to hear you went through that. ebay are obviously doing things as close to the what they can get away with line as they can.

[rugbyguy1960]

Looks like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to give deserved kudos. I never thought this thread would take off as well as it has on its first day.

[rugbyguy1960]

Roll on tomorrow. Then I can give deserved kudos again.

[wiganyankeeron]

I use thick MOUNT CARD for a stiffener, That, as well as 5 PC's together, plus an  envelope, puts that  above the thickness level for ordinary letter. Just tried it.

[rugbyguy1960]

It just seems like they are making things as difficult as possible for private sellers but they are very quick to take our money.

[rugbyguy1960]

Will give you deserved kudos tomorrow as I've reached my limit for today.

[g1dgl]

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@wiganyankeeron wrote:

And how many sellers come under that criteria??? 100gms ???

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Well, in my case actually very many of my items (obsolete electronic components) meet the 100g and £10 limit (although not if a buyer orders several) so I'm going to wait and see how the exemption works before jumping to any conclusion.

What I don't understand is how eBay will know that an item weighs more than 100g.  Surely they only have the seller's word for it.  I accept that for many items it will be obvious but how many people are they going to employ to check this?  If I say that my 150g component weighs 99g and then sort out my own postage how will they be any the wiser?

[rugbyguy1960]

I think that's where their AI will come into play when and if you are asked to give a description of the item. They will find a way of getting around just taking a sellers word for it.

[reidscott1]

I mainly sell my old CDs. Most are under £10 but with a jewel case it's a *bleep* shoot as to whether a CD is above or below 100g. I'd say that 70% are just above and 30% are just below.

How on earth will ebay know the difference? 

And if they do exempt a CD and it comes in as 101g, will I be able to purchase the correct postage for it?

The whole thing is madness but the lack of clarity and thought behind it really is quite galling. 

[rugbyguy1960]

They will let AI decide on options if items are border line in weight because they are sure to want to have a description of what you are selling including protective packaging.

I know my Signed items will be over 100g because of the extra packaging I use.

I do think this is now such a mess and very anti private sellers.

[g1dgl]

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@rugbyguy1960 wrote:

I think that's where their AI will come into play when and if you are asked to give a description of the item.

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Perhaps this rather depends on the nature of the items you are selling.  Quite a few of mine are unique.  In some cases I suspect I am the only person in the entire world selling them (how else to explain my high percentage of overseas sales).

Take relays for example.  There must be tens of thousands of different models and variations made over the last 100 years.  The open frame ones I have for sale at present are 70g and £5 so inside the limit, but if I was selling some slightly different versions which are 110g then how on earth would even the most magnificent AI figure this out?  Even an experienced human may well struggle to find this information online and you certainly couldn't figure it out from a photo.

I absolutely accept that for many items it will be impossible to pretend that they weigh less than 100g, but in some areas - like mine - there may be more wiggle room!

[twfan11]

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@reidscott1 wrote:

And if they do exempt a CD and it comes in as 101g, will I be able to purchase the correct postage for it?

The whole thing is madness but the lack of clarity and thought behind it really is quite galling. 

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Presumably as it was listed with custom postage then you could just buy the next weight up as postage and ebay would be none the wiser.  

My main worry is that ebay are incapable of getting postage right. There are going to be loads of items sold with inadequate postage labels that will be refused or charged extra by the carrier.  Sales will have to be cancelled and buyers will be angry and neg sellers.  Not all will understand.  

Add to that the inability to do combined postage, and express shipping showing up when sellers do not have short dispatch times (easy for the buyer not to notice when offered 24 hour delivery)  and the negs could be flying. 

[edwardian-dreams]

They wont

when you list an item (on browser) and it gives you the weight options at the bottom it says something like is your item bigger or heavier, switch to custom postage

you then set your own postage (even if your item isn’t bigger or heavier )

you don’t have to buy it from eBay , just need to mark as despatched and enter a tracking number if you chose tracked 

or the reference number on the RM label …as even if not tracked many a time they get marked as delivered 

[rugbyguy1960]

Knowing ebay and when it comes to programming their AI I'm pretty sure they'll use the best and knowledgeable programmers they can because they won't want to lose out on making money. It wouldn't surprise me that if their AI can't give a option they will find a way to extract what they can from a seller.

[reidscott1]

I currently source my labels through eBay's label system, having always chosen Royal Mail, so only pay RM prices.

If my items are exempt due to falling below the 100g weight, will I be able to then buy my postage through Royal Mail online instead, for example, or will that facility be removed in the sense that eBay will refuse to mark the items as dispatched and then payment will never be received, or will I be able to manually mark items as dispatched?

More and more grey areas...

[reidscott1]

I have no doubt that they are anti-private sellers. They want this as a platform for businesses and shops, which is exactly what it was not created to be...

I posted weeks back when the buyer protection nonsense was introduced that I was trying not to knee jerk into packing eBay in, but that in reality if this Simple Delivery system was then thrown on top it would leave many in the situation where there really isn't another option.

Today's discussions really do begin to show that it I was unfortunately correct.

[rugbyguy1960]

I think they will go by weight and selling price. If your items are exempt from compulsory SD then I believe you would be expected to send your items tracked if you want the faster payment because even if SD is not compulsory for your items you might have to go through SD to get a RM label but hopefully ebay will explain more in the very short future.