Would Brexit YES voters vote differently now???

[iconic-football-gaa-rugby-american-sports-shirts]

Pound Stirling clearly in trouble and most definately effect ebay sales across the board.

[023mjc]

I resent Blairs insistence that I only voted out because I didn't know what I was doing. He's an evil, warmongering troublemaker. I knew exactly what I was doing.  Why do politicians think every one except themselves is stupid?

I voted out in june and if we should end up with another referendum, I would vote out again.  But, regardless of the outcome it would be the very last vote I ever cast.   If a decision can be overturned because the losers don't like it, then all votes are pointless.

[roxcalibur]

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@dark_castle1 wrote:

Unfortuneately we up here in Scotland have to listen to the constant bleating of Nasty Nicola about independence and how the people of Scotland must be listened to about how they voted to stay in the EU !

Well Nasty Nicola why do you not listen to the Scottish people when they voted to remain within the UK and as such voted in the EU referendum as citizens of the UK and as part of a UK wide vote.

All Nasty Nicola and her cronies are interested in is independence and will use any excuse to try for another referendum on independence. Instead of doing that why not do as you were voted in to do and govern the country and adhere to your promises about it not costing any more to live in Scotland than it does anywhere else in the UK Nasty Nicola, oh that is unless you are a middle income earner where you will pay more income tax than anywhere else in the Uk, oh yes I almost forgot about the way you are now banding certain homes in Scotland to pay a lot more community charge.

S.N.P. interested in the people of Scotland ! ROLLOX ! They only have one agenda and hopefully when the next election comes around their agenda will be what day and time they have to sign on at the unemployment office.

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Of course the SNP are invested in Scottish independence. That is the whole reason for the SNP's existence. The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly for SNP in the general election. 55 out of 58 seats. You couldn't get more of a landslide than that. That is far more emphatic than the narrow margins in either the Scottish idependence vote or the EU referendum. For the record the people of Scotland did vote overwhelmingly to remain in the EU.

[dark_castle1]

For the record the people of Scotland voted to remain within the UK but this seems to have slipped Nasty Nicolas mind and attention.

[dark_castle1]

Oh yes for the record, the people of the UK voted to leave the EU and as Scotland is part of the UK should stand by the democratic vote of the people of the UK and not be now using the result as an excuse to cause more unstability within the UK.

United we stand and divided we fall, this from a Scot born, bred and still living in Scotland.

[rightgrand]

Blair says "rise up", but back in 2003 when he was in charge, the largest anti-war protest EVER in the world took place, including the largest ever in the UK, as around a million people took to the streets of London.  If that isn't "rising up" then I don't know what is, yet it made absolutely zero difference to the war criminal bombing and invading another country in our name, and we're still dealing with the repercussions today - including the birth of ISIS, which was started by the ejected security forces from Iraq.

I'd assume that either he has a business interest in staying the the UK or someone's paying him.  I'm really pleased to see how he's been universally rejected- even by the pro-EU campaigners who don't want to be associated with him.  If he hadn't yet got the message that we don't want his opinions then perhaps he finally will as a result of this.

[choughed-to-bits]

Yes a majority of the Scottish electorate who voted in the referendum voted to remain in the EU but that is irrelevant as Scotland is still a member of the UK and as such is democratically bound by the result of the UK vote .

[roxcalibur]

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@dark_castle1 wrote:

United we stand and divided we fall, this from a Scot born, bred and still living in Scotland.

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No prizes for guessing which football team you support then.

[roxcalibur]

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@rightgrand wrote:

Blair says "rise up", but back in 2003 when he was in charge, the largest anti-war protest EVER in the world took place, including the largest ever in the UK, as around a million people took to the streets of London.  If that isn't "rising up" then I don't know what is, yet it made absolutely zero difference to the war criminal bombing and invading another country in our name

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I desperately want to remain in the EU but I still despise B-Liar and you are absolutely spot on about his obscene hypocrisy in this matter.

[celticthebhoys585]

Exactly

It always amazes me how many times some of the people posting in this forum can't quite grasp what SNP stands for and by their constitution and manifesto(Nicola Sturgeon being the leader) exercises those principles to the best of her ability. 

Let me remind them!

Constitution

To be in the driving seat of our own destiny and to shape our own future is a natural desire. It is what we all hope for ourselves and it is what the SNP believes is right for Scotland. We will achieve independence only when a majority of our fellow citizens are persuaded that it offers the best future for our country. Our success will depend on the strength of our arguments and the clarity of our vision. So we will undertake new work to persuade a majority of the Scottish people that independence is the best future for our country.

What country in the world doesn't want to attain those core principles I ask you-none!

This remains the constitution of the SNP, so stop blubbering on as if the SNP is some kind of renegade extremist orginisation.They are a bonafide legal party who won 54/59 seats in your UK shared parliament -approx 94%-a slam dunk IMHO.

[dark_castle1]

well rox if you think it is one of the so called old firm you are greatly mistaken.

[mikes*corvettes]

But Lord Mandelson raced to the defence of the former PM.

He said: "There are many people who do not have extreme pro-Brexit views and they now feel they are being bulldozed."

He later went on to ask voters for money to fund the Open Europe campaign being headed by Mr Blair.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/769352/Tony-Blair-Brexit-European-Union-Open-Europe-Labour-Je...

ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS. 

[upthecreekyetagain]

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@choughed-to-bits wrote:

Yes a majority of the Scottish electorate who voted in the referendum voted to remain in the EU but that is irrelevant as Scotland is still a member of the UK and as such is democratically bound by the result of the UK vote .

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Even if that same electorate was told that the only way Scotland could remain in the EU was if they voted 'no' to independence?

[rightgrand]

You need a warning on that link to say that he starts talking out of your speakers when you click on it.  He seems to be using his "serious" voice mode - it reminds me of his "Diana's death" voice mode, minus the fake stuttering.

Well spotted - it's a "think-tank", which is usually code for a political propaganda machine...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Europe

Since Mandelson attacked Open Europe in 2005, in 2012 he presented it with the "International Think Tank of the Year Award" at the Prospect 2012 Think Tank Awards

It seems they were anti-further EU integration, now they're against us leaving the EU.  Presumably they want the comfortable middle ground, where they get to pop along to the odd meeting and get wads of expenses.

[roxcalibur]

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@dark_castle1 wrote:

well rox if you think it is one of the so called old firm you are greatly mistaken.

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That surprises me. I can't understand how any born and bred Scots other than Glasgow Rangers supporters would want their country ruled from London.

[mikes*corvettes]

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@rightgrand wrote:

It seems they were anti-further EU integration, now they're against us leaving the EU.  Presumably they want the comfortable middle ground, where they get to pop along to the odd meeting and get wads of expenses.

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Seems very reminiscent of Jill Steins recent exploits as the Green Party candidate in the recent US elections she received just 4% of the vote.

She then insisted on a recount and set up a GoFundMe page asking for donations to pay for said recount, she ended up with a few million dollars extra, which is nice bonus for her.

I wonder where Blair got his sudden inspiration from.

[rightgrand]

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@roxcalibur wrote:

That surprises me. I can't understand how any born and bred Scots other than Glasgow Rangers supporters would want their country ruled from London.

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It sounds like you're itching for a sectarian fight.  I'm sure the many varied people of Scotland (thankfully) have their own opinions about life, politics and everything else, not just whatever their predecessors however many generations ago thought or what they were told to think.  I don't really think you can equate someone's thoughts about Scottish independence with the football team they support.  I'm assuming that you're alluding not very subtly to the matter of which church they notionally belong to.

[roxcalibur]

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@rightgrand wrote:

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It sounds like you're itching for a sectarian fight..... I'm assuming that you're alluding not very subtly to the matter of which church they notionally belong to.

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You couldn't be more wrong. As a comitted athiest I have got no interest in religion whatsoever. It has got nothing to do with religion. You are the one trying to bring religion into it, not me. I was merely referring to Glasgow Rangers supporters connections to the British Union, the British flag and the Royal Family. Quite simply Glasgow Rangers fans tend to embrace and hold dear all things British which as a rule sets them apart from the rest of the Scottish people.

[roxcalibur]

For the record I take great offence at those idiotic and completely unfounded accusations you made about me. I am the most tolerant open minded unprejudiced person you could hope to meet and I despise any kind of sectarianism and bigotry.

[astrologica]

Steady on folks! The original OP was about Brexit, was it not? And not about religion or football!

[roxcalibur]

In Scotland there is no separating politics and football. The two are intrinsically linked. It wasn't me who brought religion into the discussion. I am an athiest.