The new when we get paid rules from February.

[nichsm_2913]

Ebay was always heavily weighted in favour of the Buyers, but this new mad rule thats coming in next month about having to wait two days after delivery is confirmed to get paid is simply beyond the pale.

And sometimes delivery conformation never comes, apparently in that situation we have to wait 14 days to get our money.  

This is disgusting and completely nuts. A self-destructive move from Ebay.

[bittyboy101]

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@just_bsg_st_lotr_et_al wrote:

That's exactly what I do already, or, for larger items, use Parcelforce. Often neither service is the most expensive, and buyers understand the costs prior to purchase, so I'd say this is no real hardship when compared to the other changes enforced upon us all.

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I always use ParcelForce 24 or 48 for my larger heavier items as £14.99 is pretty reasonable for a 10 kg item compared to £26.60 for Royal Mail Special Delivery !... but now we have a big problem... as most of the time eBay's outdated tracking system never "sees" ParcelForce's tracking updates at all - hence ParcelForce tracking site will say "Delivered" but eBay's tracking will still remain on "not dispatched yet"  INDEFINITELY !!! - This is hardly ideal if you now have to rely on such a sloppy tracking setup to be able to get your sales money from eBay now ?  😞   

[sunshinedior67]

EXACTLY. Sellers won't get paid because couriers don't register deliveries.
Sellers can do everything by the book & still receive nothing which is
grossly unfair.

[crri-903]

This has really annoyed me I didn't know about the changes until I sold an item then when it said I have to post the item then wait 2 days after its been delivered to be paid what a absolute joke its like ebay want to self destruct..... 

[just_bsg_st_lotr_et_al]

You do have to pay for postage out of your own pocket until the funds are released. So if you are lucky enough to sell five items at once, and the postage is £10 each, that's £50 you have to find to send the items, and only get it back a few days after the items are delivered, and even then you have to withdraw the funds from ebay's balance to your bank account, which can take days again. The one thing that I'd say is that everyone will have to be so careful to put the right tracking number on the details on ebay or ebay's system will not show it as delivered even after the buyer has received it.

[just_bsg_st_lotr_et_al]

I'd say what will be less common is anyone listing a large number of items on an auction format to close at the same time or near to. Some people list a few dozen items, just to sell stuff they want rid of, and if you did sell that many items at auction, you'd have to pay for the postage yourself for all of them way before the money was made available to you. Again, say twenty items sold, £7 postage each. That would be a cost of £140 sellers would need to pay out of their own money, and you would only get it back several days after they were delivered. People are just not going to do that.

[histoscape]

Hi, if you have post your item without parcel tracking service you will
have to wait 14 days for your money. 😠 👍

[papso22]

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@prom22 wrote:

Not according to this screenshot - payments have to clear first which is in 2 weeks:

(screenshot is from a private seller).

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That refers to ebay receiving the cleared payment, at which point the seller's dispatch time kicks in.

[1956glyn]

This is going to be a problem for us.   Say we sell 5 items ....quite often it takes 1 or 2 buyers 2 days to pay.

No we cannot and will not dash to the post office daily.

Waiting for funds is not an issue for us at all.   We set out shipping time at 5 days which is convenient to us and our life style...saying that we do usually post much sooner.   We must have the flexibility

[bittyboy101]

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@just_bsg_st_lotr_et_al wrote:

You do have to pay for postage out of your own pocket until the funds are released. So if you are lucky enough to sell five items at once, and the postage is £10 each, that's £50 you have to find to send the items, and only get it back a few days after the items are delivered, and even then you have to withdraw the funds from ebay's balance to your bank account, which can take days again. The one thing that I'd say is that everyone will have to be so careful to put the right tracking number on the details on ebay or ebay's system will not show it as delivered even after the buyer has received it.

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I thought so.

Not ideal (like you have said) if multiple items should sell at the same time (fat chance lol, as this is eBay where they play "hide & seek" with the searches), but never the less it can happen on rare instances !

...and having to "find" £50 - £60 from nowhere to post multiple sold eBay items can be very challenging and somewhat VERY INCONVENIENT.

...UNLESS YOU GIVE IN TO EBAY'S MERCY AND USE THEIR SITE TO BUY YOUR POSTAGE WHERE THEY WILL "LET YOU" HAVE SOME OF YOUR BUYER'S MONEY TO PAY THEIR INFLATED POSTAGE COSTS !

It's now become very costly and complicated to sell anything on eBay now   😞   

[bittyboy101]

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@1956glyn wrote:

Waiting for funds is not an issue for us at all.   

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Not everyone is as lucky as you, for me waiting for funds is now very off putting and of GREATEST INCONVENIENCE as I am not rich and  don't work anymore due to having to look after my mum most of the time after her accident a few years ago... So this payment delay is very bad for people like me who are poorer.

Basically, you now have to be wealthy and laid-back to be able to sell on eBay.  There is no room anymore for people like myself who are UNEMPLOYED.

[billyandbrian]

I for one am absolutely baffled by the transformation of ebay from what it was. 

Anyone else remember when most listings were auctions with multiple bidders, before people latched on to software to last minute gazump. Nostalgia comes with rose tinted glasses, but as a buyer-and a seller- it was a much more enjoyable experience.

In my opinion, ebay has lost that special community auction/hobbyist feel-it was unique in that as a buying experience. We literally would watch auctions tick down, fascinated where the price would get to. 

Now, its over complicated, over fiddled with, bizarre interference with buyer searches for what ebay thinks you should buy rather than what you want, a clinical buying experience I could easily get from any number of other online stores. Its no fun to buy OR sell. Completely lost the soul of the site.

Added to that firstly Paypal being removed (madness), then a list of changes too long to itemise in one post, all entirely designed to squeeze more money for ebay and sod the sellers; sod the buyers. 

I keep hanging around hoping one day to see a glimpse of ebay returning to what made it special-mainly auctions, used items, easy searches. It seems that it will never happen, not whilst money is to be made with extortionate fee structures.

Making sellers wait 2 weeks for their money is actually shocking.

[goodibags]

That's a good point. I notice how the payment retention inconvenience is frequently presented as a subtle 'nudge' to businesses operating on private account to upgrade.

But if their regular sales continue at a high volume anyway they'll only have to absorb the first 14 days (or less for tracked postage) waiting before their regular revenues start rolling in as normal. There are unlikely to be cashflow problems for them.

[1956glyn]

I do not work either so i am UNEMPLOYED too.     I do not class myself as "lucky".

Everyones personal circumstances are different.     

[bittyboy101]

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@1956glyn wrote:

I do not work either so i am UNEMPLOYED too.     I do not class myself as "lucky".

Everyones personal circumstances are different.     

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Quite.

Real problem is to be able to sell on eBay and buy your own postage independently from eBay, You have to have a lot of "spare money" saved up somewhere just for this purpose so that there is a steady flow of money available in advance to pay for postage when you have multiple eBay items sell, otherwise you are basically forced to buy postage from eBay themselves which they will graciously let you have the money for... but if eBay get your postage label wrong like incorrect weight and your parcel does not get delivered or your buyer has to pay a charge to Royal Mail for them to deliver their item because the postage was underpaid on eBay... well that can present all sorts of problems with unhappy buyers and delayed  payment.    

[1956glyn]

Well we will not buy our postage through Ebay nor will we be told when or where  and how to post our items.

IF we cannot continue to post our items within say 5 days max as we usually do and are not allowed to go to the Post office and pay over the counter at our convenience then Simple Delivery will never work for us.   We refuse point blank to use Evri.    We are often not at home so wherever we are we take the parcels with us and find a local post office there.     This could be anywhere from Derby.....Stratford Upon Avon or even Great Yarmouth.

The above will stop  us from listing (and prob buying) on the site.

[cobwebcottage]

If you spent your time wisely listing items instead of so much time writing the same points again and again on the boards, you may make some money.

But then again, didn't you say you were done with Ebay?

[bittyboy101]

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@1956glyn wrote:

Well we will not buy our postage through Ebay nor will we be told when or where  and how to post our items.

IF we cannot continue to post our items within say 5 days max as we usually do and are not allowed to go to the Post office and pay over the counter at our convenience then Simple Delivery will never work for us.   We refuse point blank to use Evri.    We are often not at home so wherever we are we take the parcels with us and find a local post office there.     This could be anywhere from Derby.....Stratford Upon Avon or even Great Yarmouth.

The above will stop  us from listing (and prob buying) on the site.

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Agree 100%

[kath3735_wxmjn]

of course sellers will get paid, unfortunately you have to wait 14 days but you will still get the money.  Heaven knows where some people are getting the idea from that you will never get the money, apart from certain contributors to this forum who seem to have a bee in their bonnet and keep on spouting the nonsense.

[winterrottie]

I have also been on here for over 20 years selling as private seller just getting rid of stuff but this new way is *bleep*, holding on to your money have £150 in mine and cannot touch it yet do postage myself as do not live near any drop off places eBay postage is always dearer I have looked also with the extra fee for the buyer making things dearer £20 item extra £1.52 on top they are making more doing this. Time to move to another site. I use to sell on Vinted then there postage changed now only have Yodel for collection listed rest drop off.

[vinylscot]

In the rather optimistic case you suggest, of a private seller having to pay out £140 in postage, before receiving payment from eBay, has it dawned on you that, under the previous arrangements, when sellers had final value fees to pay, that private seller would have paid almost £20 to eBay in charges, for the postage element of their transactions alone?

Surely it's worth waiting a couple of days, to avoid these charges. That's the price you need to pay on eBay now, and if you were 100% honest, I'm sure you prefer the way it is now.