01-03-2025 8:12 AM
The introduction of the eBay Buyer Protection fee of 75p plus 4% of the value of goods, effective from 19th February 2025 has effectively killed off eBay (UK).
Buyers have walked away and Private Sellers are now forced to drastically reduce their prices to try to compete with 'Business Sellers', who are not subject to the eBay Buyer Protection fees.
It's a great shame, and unless eBay's management team in San Jose, California see the error of their ways, and quickly, there will be nothing left to salvage from the wreckage !!
11-03-2025 8:55 PM
I stick by everything I have said, but I am not going to waste any more of my time on you at the moment.
11-03-2025 9:06 PM
Of course you do, because everything you have said about " inaccuracies" you have not provided anything factual to evidence that the information sourced from reputable " authorities" and/or websites , was indeed that. Even you have said " to steer away misinformation" - this would not be wasting time , mine or anyone else, as your " factual" information would then "correct" and be available to assist others.
Goodnight!
11-03-2025 10:57 PM
I've read plenty of shallow responses to this topic, usually from business sellers, entirely without nuance saying no more than the way to shut down business sellers pretending to be private sellers is to put every restriction imaginable onto genuine private sellers.
They don't have enough sense to realise that all it will do is reduce even further the numbers of private sellers who are buyers without bothering the "private" sellers very much at all.
The end result will be a site top heavy with businesses (of both sorts) and even less buyers than it has now.
12-03-2025 8:46 AM
that would depend on how much of an item is copied and pasted. We all know that you can take a paragraph out of an article and it says one thing but if you read the whole item it can be completely different.
12-03-2025 8:54 AM
once again with the stupid comments. Just because someone does not agree with you does not make them an 'e bay employee'. As i have said before though, i have not seen anyone who actually has said they agree with this BPF. Some of us are wise enough to know that either buyers will get used to it and still buy or they will not and ebay may have to reconsider it if and when the profits go down. I have actually had a much better selling month in February than i ever have. It really does depend on what you are selling, most of mine are unwanted clothes and buyers for those are usually on here looking for specifics. I personally as a buyer have bought a few items this month that i have been looking recently. The buyer fee did not deter me from buying at all.
12-03-2025 8:55 AM
I unsubscribed a while ago, why do i need notifications when i am browsing on here all the time!
12-03-2025 8:59 AM
or maybe you could leave the site or just ignore anyone you disagree with. Seems like you are getting stressed over nothing, i have had quite a few not so nice responses in the past but i just go with the flow!
12-03-2025 9:01 AM
You are right there. Much of the "shallow responses" problem is because the issue has been running for a number of weeks now.
The vast majority of the reliable, knowledgeable, and reasonable posters made their thoughts quite clear early on, and have long since given up on repeating themselves over and over again, as new posters enter the conversation without bothering to read previous posts which almost always include sensible and reasoned opinion.
Before a certain individual gets all het up again, this next comment is not aimed at any one poster. However, because of the above, the quality of new responses declines as the threads get older. Misconceptions are challenged less, and those few who do attempt to engage in good faith are often not as knowledgeable as those who posted earlier.
I do think the admins should be stepping in and ending some of these long-running threads, which really no longer offer any value. A number of posters do recommend people read entire threads for reliable info, and I think this is a practice which should be encouraged.
12-03-2025 9:07 AM
regarding your last sentence that is what i also do not understand. WHY take off your listings when they cost nothing to keep on. I certainly did (and still do not) agree with the BPF, the wait for money or the possible soon to be imposed mandatory SD, however with the first two (as with managed payments) i am quite prepared to go along with it and see how things work out. It does not cost me anything and in fact i have had the best Feb sales ever. I realise that it really does depend on what you are selling but my items are nearly all cheap so the 75p becomes a big part of it but people are buying anyway. Why is that the ones selling very small value items do not at least try the work around of selling bundles etc, again it will only cost them time. Of course it could be because some of the biggest moaners are the ones who are in reality business sellers so profit is their all.
12-03-2025 10:26 AM
It runs the risk of not only reducing the number of sellers that are buyers, but also reduces the rich diversity of items that can be found on eBay.
The saying that 'One person's trash is another person's treasure' is true. When I had a couple of big de-clutters, buyers messaged to say that they were thrilled to have finally found what they'd been looking for. I was thrilled to get the stuff out of my house. Two happy people.
12-03-2025 4:50 PM
Well said.
I was a private seller just selling my private stamp collection which I have been collecting since I was 14, 60 years ago. Yes, I am 74 now.
However, eBay "requested" that I upgrade to a business seller because of sales volume. No problem so I complied. I don't mind paying 36p listing fee and c15% FVF
I have read other posting on the boards such as RIP eBay etc.. What nonsense. In addition lots of sellers say they are leaving eBay and *defecting' to eBid. This is mainly due to BPF etc...
Good luck with that. I tried eBid some years ago, lucky if I got a sale a week. In addition eBid want their members to promote their site with no effort from them since their inception in 1999.
Some facts:
Ebay: Market value March 2025 $31.78 billion
Total assets: $26.6 billion. Cash in bank $billion
Ebid: Market value minus £10,000 as of 2023
Cash in bank £600.00
No doubt someone will correct me if these figures are slightly off.
So with eBid going for 26 years and still little known The question is why? eBid is a Private Limited Company based and/or registered in London with 2 Directors. Anyone can check them out at Companies House.
So good luck eBid and all who sell with you, alas not me.
This is merely my, without prejudice, opinion.
12-03-2025 6:08 PM
It's the same names constantly attacking anybody that speaks out and says the eBay Buyer Protection fee has killed eBay (UK).
Coincidence ?? I think not
12-03-2025 6:11 PM
It seems its the same names constantly attacking anybody that speaks out and says the eBay Buyer Protection Fee was a serious error of judgement, has hit sales and has driven Buyers away.
coincidence ?? I think not
12-03-2025 6:21 PM
it is also the same names constantly bemoaning all the changes and making claims that they have no proof of. At this time no one knows what effect the BPF has or has not had on sales. Some catergories will have been hit because of the nature of them, stamps, postcards spring to mind. Most of my stuff is family clothes and i have never had such a good february, i could say that is because there are less private sellers of second hand clothes now on here (the fact that there are still thousands of items for sale in the catergory would of course be irrelevant) but as i have no proof one way or another i will not be saying it. One thing that is obvious though is that the biggest moaners are the pseudo business sellers.
12-03-2025 6:53 PM
Maybe the BPF is good for auction sellers because buyers feel they have control of what they'll pay?
I do think the 'Buy it Now'ers are all stampeding to the exit.
12-03-2025 11:02 PM
"I was a private seller just selling my private stamp collection which I have been collecting since I was 14, 60 years ago. ..."
Over there is a totally different site. As you point out, it's privately owned, no visible investment. It's not a clone of ebay and you have to do your own marketing, there aren't any glitzy ads on tv. It's unfortunate you criticise it when your interest is in stamps, there's some very successful sellers of stamps there, e.g. BillsStamps (or some name like that). Postcards, craft items, some do well. Hasn't worked well for me, but I haven't given it a full throttle try and my items are too niche for most places. Indeed, niche, curious, secondhand are some of the terms for which ebay used to have a strong reputation. Surprises me that they appear to be discarding that image and trying to become just another Amazon/Vinted/FB. But I'm not a CEO.
If ebay is working well for you, grand. No reason for you to look elsewhere then.
13-03-2025 4:09 AM
@abmedia2020 wrote:
Maybe the BPF is good for auction sellers because buyers feel they have control of what they'll pay?
I do think the 'Buy it Now'ers are all stampeding to the exit.
You know exactly what you will pay with a BIN too.
13-03-2025 7:50 AM - edited 13-03-2025 7:51 AM
@papso22 wrote:
@abmedia2020 wrote:Maybe the BPF is good for auction sellers because buyers feel they have control of what they'll pay?
I do think the 'Buy it Now'ers are all stampeding to the exit.
You know exactly what you will pay with a BIN too.
Indeed you do. But fixed price buyers know that eBay are making them pay more, it's spooking them in my opinion. With auctions they're in the driving seat. They're a fickle bunch.
13-03-2025 8:27 AM
or maybe it is because a majority of the pseudo private sellers use BIN. As a private seller with no urgent need for quick money i am content to run auctions in the hope that maybe two people might desperately! want my item and send the price up - rarely happens but it did last week.
13-03-2025 9:53 AM
I'm certainly not going to try to correct any of the facts you give about ebid, I'm happy to accept that the details you give are all correct. But to me as a seller it's not the size of the company that helps me get sales, how long it's been going, or how it's structured that counts. It's the number of sales, how much they cost me in time, effort and of course how much it charges for their services that counts.
You answer your own question "So with ebid going for 26 years and still little known, the question is why?"
The answer is that the site doesn't advertise itself and relies on its sellers to promote their own ads. if they want to. I never have and where my buyers come from is still something of a mystery to me.
Like many others I wasted my first few years there. I listed a few items, mainly those that didn't sell on ebay back when my sales here were good and amounting to at least several a month, at intervals and hoped for the best. Predictably I sold virtually nothing.
At some point, getting despondent at the lack of sales, I took some time to think about the "Good bits" of the site and how I might use them to sell more. At the time I was caring for an elderly relative with Dementia and the time I had to spend working on either site was very limited. But I made a determined effort to list one new item on each site every Sunday morning.
This did increase sales slightly, ebay still easily outsold ebid but at least I was getting a few sales there every year, which I looked on as an bonus in addition to those on ebay.
From business sellers on ebay I learned some of the basics of SEO and applied them to all my listings and this was, I think, the breakthrough. I also applied what I learnt with google in mind. Ebay was beginning to move away from a Key-Word search in favour of its own rather unique search engine.
It stream-lined, stopped searching 'less fruitful categories', targeting the results according to the buyer's profile etc.. Which it has continued to this day with sponsored listings, IS and biasing the search towards quicker selling and preferably new items and listings. My ads. on ebay didn't fit well as my niche items tend to be slow selling, one-off items.
Ebid has never done this and as my sales here declined, my sales over there increased. (I know this because I always leave FB for my buyers there to keep an accurate count.) Not because ebid was getting any better but simply because buyers couldn't easily find my stuff on ebay any more and started searching further afield, especially during the Covid lockdowns. They have never gone back to their pre-Covid levels.
As someone on these boards once said "The only way to get a site that is perfect for you, is to build it yourself" and I agree. All sites have 'good' bits and 'not so good' bits. It's up to each seller to find out what works for them and where, but mostly how to use them to their advantage. I don't think there is too much wrong with ebid, it now works for me. The mistake that many who try it make (IMO) is that they think of it as a miniature ebay and try to use it in the same way as they use ebay. It isn't and probably never will be.