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AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

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@infohelps wrote:

these were the questions I asked the CS rep which he was unable to answer and which I referred to:  What charges and fees will the seller be liable for if they amend their listing but  give dimensions and weights which are inaccurate causing SD to generate a label that is underpaid?  As well as the RM collection admin fee, does the seller pay the full amount of new postage or just the difference?  Does eBay charge an admin fee, and if so how much?   

These are fair questions and maybe worth asking on the weekly chat, but frankly at this point I think probably the way we'll find the answers is if and when somebody actually does it and gets charged.

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They have been saying for a long while that Free Collection will end at some time. Just seems odd it has happened now that SD is with us.
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So what has Ebay had to say about RM charging for collection? When only a
couple of weeks ago they were advertising 'Collection from your home
address' as one of the pluses of SD??

RON,
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They never said it would be free most people that had collection will now go to the post office instead to save money. Some of us can't like myself but at least it's not the 72p per item as was the original intention of RM. The real problem is not being able to combine postage which means possibly several parcels/letters with the added 30p. If i cannot combine i will not sell.

The charge starting now might be part of the plans of the Czech person who has bought RM recently

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Definitely Ebay are unique in the world on on-line auctions and that is where their focus should have been far better.

 

In terms of the "vertical" market they needed  to develop the middle tier of sellers  . I.E private sellers that that don't fit in as a business but generate  a reasonable revenue on per seller basis .  Instead they are the group they are alienating  the most  at present.

 

I don't think  I  would meet the current pre-requisites for a business seller now but even if I could it wouldn't be worth me selling . That is a situation that should  not exist if Ebay were genuinely  in touch with their core business

 

The other things is moving back to a time where Ebay was geared  to making sales rather than listing items for free.  I am tempted to just list with auctions that are unlikely  to sell  with as many high res pictures as possible and let them just sit on the Ebay platform at Ebay's cost and if they do sell I will just take the money  and smile 🙂 

 

As a future seller I am more likely just to list stuff I want to clear out rather making money. For my more expensive collection items I might start going to specialised dealers who buy on a national basis. 

 

I think Ebay as a concept /  market is still stronger than their current leadership and eventually that will win over but its not going to instantaneous 

 

 

 

 

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In the good old days,  I reduced my postage costs when RM gave free collection across the board . Like wise if there was a fee for either RM or Evri collection I could factor that in .

 

Its going to be interesting when sub-PO's get the hump  with this and stop accepting Ebay  paid drop offs .

 

 

 

 

 

 

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But that will mean a noticeable number of accounts being closed / going dormant / going 'time away' as sellers stop selling and as buyers stop buying.  For some that will mean tightening of belts (even more than they'll have to if they carry on selling under the new restrictions on private sellers.)

 

That will mean them screwing-up their courage and sticking to their guns, no back-sliding to grab a bargain or long sought after item.  No listing 'just a few' items because ebay makes some tempting discount offer.  No ranting on here under a 'posting' account and continuing as normal on hidden buying and selling accounts.   Ebay has to learn that "no" means 'NO', if it's to learn anything at all and to be effective that would probably have to be repeated regularly, for months.   

 

I somehow don't think that enough private sellers have the back-bone or willpower to suffer the withdrawal symptoms of a Cold Turkey stop to being one of ebay's 'Users' and with all due respect it will be doubly difficult for younger users totally addicted to their devices.

 

But the alternative is to add BPF, Payment Holds and SD to the growing list of enshi**ification events that ebay has already gotten away with after a brief bout of protest or claims to be going elsewhere. 

 

Such As:  FVF on P&P.  MP.  The Seller Hub.  Service Metrics.  Late Delivery Defects and probably a few others that I forgot.      

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"The result has been 5 years (at least) of stagnation and slow decline.  (Does 5 years take us back to the separation from paypal and the introduction of Managed Payments ? I can't remember.) "

 

The current CEO was appointed 5 years ago.  Not saying there's necessarily a connection, just stating a fact.

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Very good second paragraph.

Some posters know all the answers, but the majority of us (and eBay) don’t.

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I look forward to the new CEO being appointed sometime soon 🙂

 

Bizzarrely the separation from Paypal  was  a success despite how it was handled by Ebay , not only did Ebay get a financial benefit I saved on Paypal fees . I would say the current "initiatives" are  based on that success , although It probably cost a lot of money to become a virtual bank.

 

Delayed payment is  a money spinner as  for every pound in revenue / day  they will get something like  4p for every day they can keep hold of  that money  flow in the bank . But if they are basing forecast on pre BPF/ SD sales  then someone is going to be disappointed 

 

 

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Oh dear, they are now repeating themselves, one on top of each other, wanting me to promote my listings!! If only they put that amount of energy into telling us what's going on.

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It was mentioned that the CEO might be under some pressure after being in-post for 5 years without any great improvement in ebay's numbers.  But who is it that sets the agenda and applies such pressure?  The major shareholders who vote board members in or out.

 

I think that paypal split off and MP might have been introduced 5 years ago and ebay has been going noticeably down-hill since then, but IMO the rot started well before that.  So I'd say that the current CEO having been there for 5 years is less of a connection than who the major shareholders have been over the longer term.

 

They decide the policy, demand dividends and a rising share price, appoint a board to do their bidding and sack them if they don't do the job to their satisfaction.  So to me which direction the ebay juggernaut has been travelling in has been set by the major shareholders.  The CEO is only the chauffer that they tell where to go and if the journey takes too long or gets too bumpy, "where to go" is likely to be 'away'.

 

Perhaps that's why the Golden Handshakes and Golden Good-byes have become so huge  --  most CEOs and CFOs aren't that confident that they will be in post long-term.

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@theelench wrote:

I somehow don't think that enough private sellers have the back-bone or willpower to suffer the withdrawal symptoms of a Cold Turkey stop to being one of ebay's 'Users' and with all due respect it will be doubly difficult for younger users totally addicted to their devices.


Sure and if that happens ebay get away with dumping on everyone. Young people I know wouldn't touch ebay with a barge pole and prefer to use the other place. But yeah there are lots of people set in their ways who might accept these changes but then if it causes prices to be so high that things don't sell or they have to reduce their prices to a level they are unhappy with to compensate for ebay's layers of fees then maybe they will think twice. and do something different.

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Dumping on everyone yet again. 

 

Previously, more often than not particularly on business sellers who, with time and money invested and at least the chance of recouping by expanding their businesses (at least in theory) were more likely to do as they were told.

 

This time ebay is going for private sellers who have nothing much to lose, particularly those selling unwanted second hand items at already low prices.  Ebay has less of a hold over them but with low expectations of what they will get out of their "ebay experience", they may just roll over and accept the insults and injuries.

 

Hopefully not, there is at least some choice left when it come to selling on-line and it's about time ebay recognised that their customers are walking away quicker than new ones are joining-up.   

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I've heard that mentioned quite recently on 3 different youtube podcasts now that younger people don't use ebay, haven't of ebay or think of the site as just being full of scammers!

 

Starting to wonder who actually uses the site?

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@honeymonster007 wrote:

I've heard that mentioned quite recently on 3 different youtube podcasts now that younger people don't use ebay, haven't of ebay or think of the site as just being full of scammers!


Yeah I've heard that too but never directly.  I don't know if the thinking is that buyers get scammed (hard with the MBG) or sellers get scammed (more likely these days). If I had something high value to sell I would try not to sell it here for fear of getting scammed particularly in the high risk categories.

 

The young people I work with seem to think the other site is cool and for their generation and ebay is stuffy, expensive and for middle aged and old people.

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The other site has more scammers 

especially for designer goods 

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I forgot to say young people I know still look here but only for auctions ie low start prices 

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Yes i'm getting all sorts of helpful advice about how to sell when they have stopped me selling. Had a survey on how easy it was to list. I marked it all extremely difficult as i have only relisted some to see when the dreaded SD takes effect

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Sorry but how do you get to 4p Per Day per £1., if that was the case they would be getting 4.35% per day, That would be a really good rate, but for £1.00 it is more like £ 0.000119 pence per day based on an Annual Rate of 4.35%.

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