NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

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eBay shares haven't crashed yet I see!

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Down over 10% in the past 5 days.  So, not a crash, but still a significant drop.

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Grrrrrrr, darn it

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I think all users want a definitive announcement which I doubt will happen until on or around the 15th because of the changes that keep happening.

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Folks leave the poor innocent primates alone 😁. As for the other you mentioned alongside, hey no sympathy whatsoever for those!

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The problem my partner and I have is we don't own smart phones or printers so simple delivery has finished us ,but a couple of days ago ebay said for people without printers or smart phones they were going to send a 5 number code to use I presume for evri ,that you tap into the evri label machine in the drop off shop  and it will print a label out for you  to  put on your parcel and then take to the shop assistant who will scan it  for you ,but when ebay will do this I am not sure .I think with this simple delivery ebay have made things to complicated for them selves and sellers and buyers .Never mind Simple Delivery ,simple explaination would help, they seem to want us to fill in the gaps .

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What a good start to a week though.

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Also, simple until the drop off shop near you decides to close early or permanently, or their machine breaks down and cannot print the labels. Have stood behind very disgruntled people brandishing parcels only to be told they can’t be sent, oh shame!

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Me too! Ive already deleted all of my listings. GOODBYE EBAY

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Our post office are not happy about it, even today they told us they have had problems with SD parcels and now they won't take in EVRI parcels as they said there is an evri drop off  in Tesco express in the town that people can use .

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Absolutely well said and well put.  Having so many things imposed on us is the main reason why especially as there was no discussion or communication beforehand. 

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I think there are a lot of unhappy post offices which I don't think was part of the plan when SD was made compulsory. 

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I don’t blame them, they don’t get more money even for taking in RM parcels where labels have been printed at home, they are now expected to do even more! What happens to a very small PO like mine who simply don’t the room to cope with all this additional stuff

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I do think with a lot of post offices being unhappy that will be another spoke in the wheel.

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A new update today from ebay regarding  first class letters and large letters and 2nd class letters and large letters it says we need to refer to royal mail for prices ! so is this going to be simple delivery or not ? even more muddling now .

 

https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Seller-Central/Todays-seller-hub-dribble/td-p/7823371/jump-to/first-...

 

This might help

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My private coin collection, amassed over many years is not all 50p's for starters, and as I am only selling to get rid of most of them it matters not  to me what they sell for. Having been conned with non-deliveries in the past sending items out not tracked, I decided some time ago to send by a tracked postal method to cut down the hassle you get from eBay when things don't turn up at the buyers address. You can see what I am selling but as I do not know what you sell, it is a bit pointless of you trying to draw a comparison between us. The SD system is easy for me as I decided to purchase my post through eBay, again some time ago, as it made things that much  easier for me. Having been a seller/buyer on this site since around 2003, I have seen it all, and they have been times like this in the past, where eBay have changed something and it has created the same furore, and I myself have been part of it. It did not make the slightest difference what the seller/buyers said or did. If eBay want to do it, it will be done. I have never, never known eBay change their minds because of pressure from their users. I will be bloody amazed if they do so now and I think that you are all wasting you time and energy, but of course you carry on if you think otherwise.

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I don't hold out much hope either - but if you don't try you certainly won't succeed.

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I've been around about the same time as yourself. ebay has changed direction on occasion, but they have been very, very rare. ebay Express was a disaster when they tried to split the site and that was quickly ended.  The fall out from simple delivery would have to be very large indeed and I would image there would have to be a significant threat to ebay's revenue streams, otherwise ebay will do what it is doing and that is tinkering with the system to try and make it a little more palatable. 

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So far I am very happy with the services I have received under Simple Delivery but I am worried that because  I sell so little, and none of the deliveries had any problem, I may be getting a false impression of how Ebay have actually dealt with other genuine private sellers real , not hypothetical maybe, problem deliveries.

 

I have listed 30 items under SD, for all of which I wanted full tracking

28 I thought SD had got the right size and weight category but for 2 that they were on the light size, so I adjusted their estimate up to what I would have used without SD.

On all 30 SD seem to be predicting exactly the same courier, generally Evri but occasionally Royal Mail, as I would have been sending with, if I was choosing.

On all 30 SD were saying that the “price from” for buyers with standard postcodes was either exactly the same as or, more often, slightly cheaper than I would have been paying to the old broker Packlink.

Overall SD made the listing process a bit easier – I no longer had to worry about choosing which of the two couriers would give the  best service for the best price, and what that price would actually be, across a wide range of differing delivery postcodes.

The physical process  of listing the delivery details had always been pretty easy and was not made any worse.

I was concerned by the fact that all 30 were items under 2kg so I may not be getting true impression of the system, but then I checked and last year I only sold 1 item  over 2kg so why worry about a possible problem in respect of items over 2kg, that barely exists for me.

 

I have sold 6 items.

I used to hate buying delivery labels, it was so complicated, with my bank insisting that I had to confirm each payment with a code they sent to my phone. Ebay had already made this much easier by allowing payment out of their Managed Funds.

Obtaining the delivery label was very easy, it was just sitting in an Ebay message, not out in an email as I had incorrectly expected, two or three clicks and it came out of my home printer.

No mucking about having to check if I had sufficient funds available, was buying the right thing, getting payment authorised etc, let alone the horror of having to record and type in long alpha numeric tracking numbers. It was lovely that somebody else had taken care of all of the work.

 

Evri have now added my local Post Office to the numerous places I can drop off their parcels so on the one occasion that I also needed to drop off a Royal Mail parcel I was still able to do so by making a single journey.

Royal Mail seem to be fast catching up with Evri, by adding more convenience stores etc. near to me as drop off points so hopefully soon any limited choice, limited opening hours with bureaucratic staff will not be a  problem.

Regarding drop off overall I would say now, for me personally, it makes no difference whether it is me or SD that chooses the courier or which courier we choose, as the blanket  coverage of both is so good.

 

All six parcels were delivered very quickly, with the tracking being excellent, with not a hint of damage. Whilst my experience may indicate both couriers are equally good, a sample size of only 6 is surely too small. Of course both Evri and Royal Mail will have entered  into new contractual arrangements with Ebay for the standard of service they will provide under SD so it would be extremely unfair to judge them based on old events under other systems, particularly for Royal Mail who only four months ago changed ownership and management.

 

What I had hoped to find out from the hundreds of messages in this thread are actual facts about actual events that have taken place under the Simple Delivery system, in relation to the following questions but it seems that the messages do not address these.

 

Ebay say that if you use their SD estimate of size and weight you will never be charged any more money, by them, if the estimate is wrong. Is this true – have Ebay charged the seller if at any stage of the chain between printing the label and the final delivery, the size or weight is found to be wrong?

I have seen people have had problems, as predicted, where they tried to drop off wrongly labelled items at some Post Offices. Whilst the problem does not concern me as  I have so much choice of alternative Royal Mail drop off points with better staff, I am interested in “Was it  Ebay that charged you for any additional payments you made, or were asked for, or was it Post Office or Royal Mail”

 

Ebay say that they are assuming full responsibility for any loss or damage in transit up to the sum of £750 (the old limit provided by, and charged for, Royal Mail for items they were delivering under their Special Delivery system).

I realise there is massive lists of excluded items for both Royal Mail and Evri in their own Terms and Conditions but have already formed  my own opinion that Ebay would not be able to legally enforce many of these on its own customers. Anyway, it is not relevant to my decision making process, as these massive lists exist and are unchanged whether I use the courier direct or via EBay, and Ebay are such a big company that I could never have the resources to fight them over disputes over contract terminology.

I know the Simple Delivery system has only existed for a month but again have any of the message writers got either personal experience of, or been told about, events that have actually taken place, and are not opinions or comments on possible scenarios, where there has been reported damage or loss.

Again what I am trying to find  is somebody who made a sale under Ebays Simple Delivery, not previous systems where all the parties may have been under different contractual arrangements, and can tell me if Ebay then honoured their agreement or they did not honour it, not could or could not, may or may not, will or will not.

 

Thankyou for your help - I am so worried that even though everything has been fine for me other people may have had other experiences.

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I’ve de-listed mine too.
I wonder if when an item sells it will automatically take you to (not so) simple delivery.
Has anyone here who has left their items up sold anything yet?
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Yours is a good post but unfortunately, SD is still in its infancy so its mainly a leap into the unknown.  We are the only country in the whole of eBays network to have this thrown upon us so like you, we have nothing to go by.

 

It would have been so much better if this experiment had been for business sellers as they would have had more experience to deal with something like this.

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