31-03-2025 10:45 AM
AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.
I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.
20-07-2025 12:47 PM
Thank you for fixing that for me.
Congratulations on being the 8000th on this thread.
20-07-2025 12:50 PM
The conversation should have gone something like this...
'You know, I've been thinking, it's a bit of a shame the sellers have to pay full price for their postage when if they could somehow be recognised as a single entity they could probably get substantial discounts.'
'That's a good thought. We should look into whether that's possible in some way. Of course it would need to be done so that the sellers see no change to their existing arrangements other than some cheaper postage quotes than they are used to - we don't want chaos! We would not need to make it compulsory as they would all want to opt in if they can. And we could take a few pennies commission each time to help keep the platform running smoothly.'
'Yes, and it goes without saying AI should not be involved at all, because it simply doesn't work, at least not yet. Everything would need to be carefully planned and tested to work perfectly before launch, of course.'
But it was probably more like this...
'The creative team have pushed the envelope out of the box with a new revenue stream plan. We take control of the sellers' postage, negotiating deals with select couriers, and keep the discounts for ourselves.'
'That's great, let's get it live and compulsory as soon as possible - we don't want to be left behind the curve of the 8-ball. There will be a few things to sort out, though, right?'
'We'll just get AI to do it. It can do a gazillion calculations per nanosecond, you know? Fantastic!'
'But it could all finish up a bit complicated couldn't it?'
'That's OK, we can market it as 'Simple'. Remember, we live in a post-facts world going forwards.'
'Fine, and any problems that turn up we can just come up with a fudge on the fly.'
'Yay, more luxury yachts to add to the fleet coming soon!'
20-07-2025 3:12 PM
20-07-2025 4:45 PM
just tried to print a SD label but it says there is an error in the address and asking me to fill in the right details , uhm should it be asking the buyer for the right address and not me ? + i also had the close the page down to get away from the address detail page ,i have asked the buyer for the right address , but what a load of # to do
20-07-2025 9:25 PM
Given that SD ha snow been "going" for 6 months that is yet another thing Ebay should have addressed before they enforced it , this has nothing to with with the seller. EBAY ARE YOU READING THIS ?
20-07-2025 10:08 PM - edited 20-07-2025 10:10 PM
This is a common problem sometimes because while the buyer has entered a correct address when it gets translated into a label format there’s too many characters in a single line for the label printing dimensions
you can edit it and spread out the address details in all the available fields so they fit
the system will tell you if it’s ok
This is just from my personal experience
there may be other problems nothing to do with this
21-07-2025 8:25 PM
Tried today for the first time collection with Royal Mail and bring my label with SD.
Can still see: "Get Prepaid Label" and post by 23 July.
Hope it works: anyone having any success doing this?
22-07-2025 7:21 AM
Yes I agree I have been using EBay for over 20 years, it is appalling what they have done, I have a few collection only left to sell, I will NOT be using “simple delivery” I think also time to leave
22-07-2025 8:54 AM - edited 22-07-2025 8:59 AM
I had one recently where it kept telling me the county was wrong......no its not as its just a few miles from us and in the same county. The borders were changed many years ago but Ebay didnt realise 😞 We live within a few miles of 2/3 other county borders.
Even with our own address i notice some sites refer to our suburb by a different name......one thats not been used for many many years. I have been in this house 26 years plus and not known the area referred to as this other suburb ever.
22-07-2025 9:25 AM
It's royal mail that does that to addresses. Our house name is two words, but royal mail put it as one word on their records so we get loads of mail as one word. And of course all businesses, banks etc get their addresses from royal mail, so even we say it's two words they don't agree with us! We've been here 40 years, so before everything went centralised.
22-07-2025 10:13 AM
I didn't know that, I thought it would be local councils who recorded street / house names.
I've lived at my address for 20+ years and might explain why the street name at one end of the road has been different to that at the other after new signs are put up.
So we have High Field at one end and Highfield at the other.
I wonder which ebay uses when they're like that and how many parcels go to other Highfields/High Fields in the area, of which there are several as I've found to my cost.
22-07-2025 10:41 AM
So according to eBay regarding their latest messages sent to our inbox they've been listening to us, lowering BPF and making sure we get paid quicker after selling our items. Obviously something wrong with their hearing as they quite clearly couldn't hear all the discontent regarding simple delivery that has been building up in over 400 pages and 8000 posts. The only message I want to receive to my inbox is "we've been listening to you and will shortly be re-introducing custom postage", could hell really freeze over.
22-07-2025 11:50 AM
RM for over 2kg is £6.80 - worth it for a cheap item?
22-07-2025 12:29 PM
Yet another issue. Whilst drafting any new item using the app, ( I have now been moved onto StD), as soon as I try and de-select Evri from the postal carriers, the app shuts down every time, or should that be EVRI TIME?
22-07-2025 1:20 PM
QR codes are the absolute worst sometimes you take them over to a post location and they wont scan, there is absolutely no problem with selling a item posting the item and putting a tracking code in for that item I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GAIN FORCING PEOPLE TO USE AN INFERIOR SERVICE THEN CALLING IT SIMPLE WHO EVER MADE IT IS SIMPLE
22-07-2025 1:44 PM
MONEY! For a large letter, under 100g, which for us to post is £1.55, Ebay are charging £2.70,
22-07-2025 3:04 PM
Simple!!
Reducing the service saves ebay money. Getting kick-backs from the few companies ebay allows sellers to use makes ebay more money. Over-charging buyers for a limited choice of service they are allowed to choose from makes ebay yet more money.
This has NOTHING to do with any benefit for buyers or sellers and EVERYTHING to do with propping up ebay's revenue and profit.
If they can't sell stuff the sure as can charge everyone involved more and more for every sale they do get.
I won't use such an awful system and no longer sell on ebay. I won't be buying much either.
22-07-2025 3:31 PM
Agreed sunflowers … The price eBay are charging (£2.70) for a Large Letter, Royal Mail under 100g (£1.55) is nothing short of scandalous. No wonder eBay are on a path to ruin.
They continue to try and copy their online competition but are are not even coming close.
There will be more changes from eBay even the odd step back and compromise in the future … if these threads don’t make it happen then it will come from within their organisation.
22-07-2025 4:08 PM
And so the sorry saga goes on.
The recent changes to the BPF and payment holds were generally a step forward (or a negation of a step back), but eBay appear to be rather selective when it comes to listening to their members - one might say "wilfully deaf".
Despite the ongoing clamour, I really can't see eBay getting rid of SD (not that I'm trying to discourage anyone from complaining or voicing their concerns about it) - regardless of its pros and cons, it represents a huge investment on their part. Does anyone here honestly believe - regardless of how much one might want it to be the case - that eBay would, even could, knock SD on the head so soon (relatively speaking) after its introduction (and bearing in mind that the rollout isn't even complete yet)? Even if they had severe pangs of regret, and wanted to do away with it, I doubt that their contracts with Evri and RM would permit a summary withdrawal. One can only speculate, but I'd have thought that the contracts would be binding for at least a couple of years to 'give it time'.
At this stage, I feel that their best move would be to do what they ought to have done to begin with - make SD fully optional on a per-listing basis (or allow sellers to opt in or opt out on a 'global' basis, but with the freedom to switch in/out on individual listings - like the way you can have a default setting to exclude certain countries you won't post to, but can override this on specific listings).
Those who find it works for them could happily continue using it, and the rest could go on using their own tried-and-tested methods (or be free to explore other ways). Assuming that the major flaws/issues with SD will eventually be rectified/addressed (hmm, well...), more and more sellers would organically and willingly migrate to it IF they could see the benefits.
The current resentment felt by many private sellers has two causes, the fact that it is not (always) fit for purpose AND the fact that it has been forced on us ('mandated' to use slightly less emotive language). Okay, there's a third reason, and that is the knowledge that eBay are creaming off extra profits from the deals they've struck with Evri and RM, from their (in some cases) hiking rates above what would be paid if purchasing postage direct, and from their increasing the cost for one courier if you de-select the other (which eBay can override anyway).
I'm so tired of waiting and hoping for some substantial positive changes to SD. I stopped selling a while back (but with the intention to resume), and I can't honestly claim that my continued inactivity represents some ethical stance; it's more than the BPF and SD (I can cope with payment holds) increased my inertia - it was all starting to look too complicated and constricted when listing was already a chore. If I'm completely honest, I think I was also partly using the changes as an excuse not to just crack on and see how things went. Time that I should have spent listing has instead been spent trawling through the forums for news, tips, workarounds, problems, sellers' experiences, etc. The idea was to arm myself with sufficient knowledge (and confidence) to tackle SD head-on, but with so much confusion and nconsistency around it, my head ends up spinning. I do feel that, after reading goodness knows how many posts/threads on the subject, I now have a reasonable theoretical knowledge of how SD works (and fails) - at least in its current form. But, of course, this is eBay where theory and practice aren't always bedfellows.
I have a lot of stuff to list, and it already feels like a race I'll never win. I doubt I'll get a fraction of it listed/sold before I pop my clogs, or become physically and/or mentally incapable of listing and sending items. It's not just the items themselves; a significant amount of my limited living space is taken up with boxes of jiffy bags and other mailers from previous purchases, all waiting to be re-used. I've sat on the fence for way too long, so have decided on a course of action.
My original 'get back into selling' plan was to focus on the bulky/heavy and/or more expensive items (although the plan for bulky/heavy items had already been thwarted by the removal of cash on collection). Now I'm considering predominantly listing SD-exempt items, which will enable me to use up my stamps. My hope would be that SD improves significantly in the meantime.
It's far from ideal. I'd much rather be shifting the pricier and bulkier/heavier stuff first, for obvious reasons. The plan was always to do it that way round, 'mopping up' the lower value stuff if I was still alive (and could be bothered). And I'm far more confident in the potential sellability of the higher-priced items (rare/collectable media - music, film, TV, books, magazines, comics, retro gaming/computing items, etc.). I think far more buyers would be interested in those items than they would be in a manual for a 20 year old DVD player (but that would be the case whichever way round I did it).
Anyway, it's a start. I have to not only fight against the debilitating procrastination that held me back for years from creating my first listing, but I now have to find out which of my items are SD-exempt (which I'll only know for sure at the point of listing).
I also have to stop trying to double-guess buyers' attitudes and preferences ("Nobody would pay that because of the BPF" / "Buyers won't pay the SD postage when they know it could be bought for less than that"). As a collector myself, I should know that most other collectors aren't going to let a couple of quid prevent them from acquiring a desirable purchase. Furthermore, my own buying activity (from private sellers as well as from businesses) has recently risen sharply (coincidental with the changes, not because of them!). Unhappy though I am with the changes, they haven't stopped me from buying and collecting - why should I assume that other collectors are any different? Of course, some will be more conscious of their spending, but I know from the amounts I've seen some auctions end on (and from sold items with a hefty BIN price) that many are prepared to pay over the odds, let alone an 'average' price.
The more I type my thought processes, the more I think I may be restricting myself unnecessarily. There's no reason why I couldn't concentrate on SD-exempt sales, while also dipping my toe in the murky SD waters, gravitating more and more to the latter as, when and if it turned out that this worked for me.
So, that's my current position. I'm not arrogant enough to think that loads of people are that interested in my viewpoint, but, speaking personally, I like to read how people are responding (psychologically and in a practical sense) to the changes, how they're navigating them, working around them, dealing with them, etc.
We all have to decide for ourselves whether and how to proceed, be that fully embracing SD as a genuine improvement, trying to work with it despite obstacles, only listing SD-exempt items, or taking a principled stand and not listing, selling or buying at all.
Some readers may be groaning st this post, and not only on account of its length. Some may feel that I am a 'scab' for betraying 'the cause' and making money for eBay by continuing to buy, and by intending to resume selling, at a time when they feel we should all be freezing our activity to send 'a clear message' to eBay. I get that sentiment, and I don't say that lightly - I've given the matter plenty of thought (too much, if anything). For the reasons already given (not that I feel I owe anyone an explanation), I've chosen an approach that suits me for now. I can always change it, but the important thing is that I HAVE an approach. Sitting on the fence and feeling my eyes glaze over as I scroll through the threads here is no longer a viable option.
I wish all (genuine) private sellers the best in forging ahead (or not) however they see fit, and, begrudgingly accepting the fact that SD is here to stay for the foreseeable future, I can only add my voice to the others asking (pleading and begging, more like) eBay to improve it, or to at least make it fully optional.
22-07-2025 4:24 PM - edited 22-07-2025 4:30 PM
"lowering BPF"
Don't be completely fooled by it. An item that I listed at £47.38, because the Buyers Premium was £2.62, therefore making £50 the total selling prince (as I like to keep prices 'tidy') is now, after the 'revised BDF', selling at £49.96 - just 4p cheaper!
The lower BPF has made a difference to lower value items, which is very welcome, such as my £6.52 leaflet which was £7.50 (with 98p BPF) and is now at £7.06 (with 54p BPF), or my £1.71 stamp set which was £2.50 (with 79p BPF) and is now £1.91 (with 20p BPF), but for anything around £20 or greater, the saving is minimal, and almost certainly out-weighed by the extra higher charges that SD imposes on sellers - like the £2.70 RM tracked 48 cost of sending a large letter (cheap DVD for example) that would have cost just £1.55, or £2 at most (with compensation included with a proof of posting).