04-10-2024 3:27 PM
eBay has long been a popular platform for both casual and professional sellers, allowing individuals to turn their clutter into cash and businesses to reach a broader audience. Recently, eBay announced a no-fee policy for private sellers, a move that many view as a strategic effort to attract more casual users to the platform. However, while this may seem like a boon for private sellers, it could have dire consequences for business sellers who still bear the full burden of fees and subscription costs.
For private sellers, the elimination of fees represents an exciting opportunity. It lowers the barrier to entry, allowing anyone with a few items to sell to start turning a profit without worrying about upfront costs. This could encourage more people to try selling on eBay, leading to an influx of new listings and potentially more buyers on the platform.
While this sounds positive, the reality is more nuanced.
Business sellers, those who rely on eBay as a significant revenue source, still face the full suite of fees, including listing fees, final value fees, and often, subscription fees for a shop account. These costs can quickly add up, squeezing profit margins and making it challenging for them to compete.
With the no-fee model attracting more casual sellers—many of whom may be pricing their items to move quickly, perhaps even undercutting established business sellers—competition becomes fiercer. Private sellers often lack the overhead that businesses manage, enabling them to offer lower prices without the same pressure to maintain a sustainable profit margin.
As more private sellers flood the market with no fees, the likelihood of price undercutting increases. For example, if a private seller lists a similar item for a significantly lower price—say, due to a lack of associated costs—business sellers might find themselves compelled to lower their prices to remain competitive. This creates a race to the bottom, ultimately eroding profit margins and threatening the viability of businesses that have invested in inventory, branding, and customer service.
Another aspect of this dynamic is quality. Business sellers often invest time and resources into providing excellent customer service, high-quality listings, and reliable shipping. While casual sellers may not always prioritize these elements, buyers may begin to favor the lowest price over service quality. This shift could diminish the overall customer experience on eBay, pushing buyers away from the platform in the long run.
The introduction of a no-fee model for private sellers may seem beneficial for boosting engagement and activity on eBay in the short term. However, in the long run, it threatens to create a less sustainable ecosystem for business sellers. If these sellers can no longer make a living from their eBay operations due to increased competition and diminished margins, we could see a significant drop in the quality and variety of products available.
In the worst-case scenario, some business sellers may be forced to leave the platform altogether, which could ultimately drive buyers away as well. The loss of trusted sellers and quality products could tarnish eBay’s reputation, leading to a diminished user base and reduced overall transactions.
15-10-2024 11:16 AM
That is sad to hear but where's the real evidence it's to do with business sellers charading as private sellers, the economy is in free fall and hitting everyone I know with a business and none use EB, I understand people's frustrations but to blame one section of EB for everyones woes doesn't wash in reality.
15-10-2024 11:21 AM
Agree but it was only hypothetical really as it would be a hassle but doable if one was technical savvy enough.
Didn't know EB asked for Photo ID! Is that for business sellers as I've never been asked for it?
15-10-2024 11:21 AM - edited 15-10-2024 11:23 AM
If lots of legitimate business sellers decide they no longer want to subsidise pretty much the whole of Ebay UK the platform will no longer exist.
Sooner or later Ebay is going to have to start treating genuine business sellers with a lot more respect and consideration as for a lot of us the tipping point has either gone or nearly arrived.
The existing status quo is not workable.
15-10-2024 11:27 AM
I wonder if EB will do anything about it at all, if ever and the push for 300 items and the HMRC reporting is a way to force some 'Private' sellers to be scared into registering as Businesses or leave....Do they (EB/HMRC) really have the staff to monitor all accounts as some of it is dealt with by BOTS?
15-10-2024 11:32 AM
I sell second hand baby and soft toy items and can pick out 50 different people on any one day who are private business sellers selling similar items to myself. Also getting many more sales than I do now simply because of their pricing which they can sell for a lot less than I can. I used to send out 20+ items per day cant even get that now in a month!!
15-10-2024 12:29 PM
It was a very much tongue in cheek comment as thats what a lot of the clear businesses on private accounts says as to why they now have 3000 listings and when you question people they normally come back with saying eBay cant be sure so what do you expect them to do.
15-10-2024 12:31 PM
Just seen a few threads on here where people have been asked, when I set up it was just a utility bill/any ID had to match the bank account. There will allows be people finding loopholes but currently its not even a 1 second task to find a way to not pay fee's, the least eBay could do is make ti slightly difficult.
15-10-2024 1:07 PM
I think for a start, any eBay user name that includes expressions like:
-shop
-bargains
-emporium
-retail
-wholesale
-discounts
-couk
-marketing
-boutique
could probably be assumed to be trading and not clearing out their cupboards...
15-10-2024 1:16 PM
very little is done at HMRC manually now ! believe me
17-10-2024 6:26 PM - edited 17-10-2024 6:26 PM
This one just takes the urine....286113141407
And what I hate most about some sellers, trying to get out of his responsibilities by blaming sellers before they've even bought anything and laying on the disabled excuse, see his negative comments and saying they're not an expert! LOL! Look how much camera gear he sells, and has the cheek to try and blame buyers for his sh***y descriptions, as someone who buys lot of camera gear off EB I know a shark when I see one....
17-10-2024 7:06 PM
More to the point they have 431 items listed, an ebay shop and on private account.....
18-10-2024 6:58 AM - edited 18-10-2024 6:59 AM
I agree, one of the biggest things that goes in the private sellers advantage is the roll over of listings not being included in their allowance, you see private sellers with 1000's of listings, and the fact they can generate upto 400 listings a month on top of that is crazy .. most business sellers struggle to list 400 new items a month.
Reported a couple yesterday ( not in my field ) both under cutting business sellers by 25% ... just not a fair playing field
19-10-2024 6:08 PM
Dear jasonfamilytrading;
I have noticed many private sellers selling brand new items purchased via wholesale when should
be ebay business registered obviously saving listing fees ,shop fees and final selling fee, this should not
be allowed by ebay and seller should be made to change to ebay business registered or be struck off,
I also think ebay are encouraging more private sellers with this knowing that if sellers sell more than thirty plus items they will inform HMRC, ebay should make this more clear when offering private sellers a no fees policy.
I think this is unacceptable allowing private sellers to compete with ebay businesses selling the exact same items causing competition to ebay business who follow the business selling rules. Its hard enough for ebay business sellers who clearly have items for sale visabilty controlled via a touch of a button when sales dry up completely often swithed to US sales only then back to UK this is very frustrating to business sellers causing less sales and caution when purchasing. more stock to sale
19-10-2024 6:18 PM
I think if ebay private sellers sell exactly the same new stock as a business seller should
be made by ebay to register as an ebay business or be struck off this infrureates many business
sellers to pay all the listing fess etc when clearly these sellers are businesses, i hope they realise also
that ebay have now to inform the HMRC if private sellers sell more than thirty plus items and what alot
of needless hassle for them it seems.
19-10-2024 6:31 PM
Business sellers get fed up when private sellers sell exactly the same new stock and
sell just above wholesale prices to be the cheapest on ebay with no ebay fees at all,
i feel once ebay realise this private sellers visability will be restriced via a push of a button their sales will dry up and they will give it up and if they sell thirty plus items they have some explaing to HMRC as ebay will
have to tell them by law. If private sellers are really a ebay business then register as one and youl get more sales!!
19-10-2024 6:31 PM
That was my point...😉
On top of that they're full of excuses even before you buy something, I see a lot of sellers with Camera equipment and this is one of the worst ones in recent times.
19-10-2024 6:40 PM - edited 19-10-2024 6:42 PM
Of course private sellers know the limits, I've known for years but doesn't put me off or scare me about those limits, HMRC aren't bothered if you go over a few and have a genuine reason, HMRC don't have the manpower to do the work chasing someone who might make a few quid over their limits, lol, it's not 1984.
EB will never stop it as it doesn't really care and is being forced to impliment the restrictions by a Gov that wants to monitor your every move.
19-10-2024 6:41 PM
If ebay private sellers are competion with ebay business sellers buying in and selling the exact same items and they do not register as a business they should be struck off.
19-10-2024 7:48 PM
Well i do tend to agree with you. It also frustrates me when i see private sellers having multi listings (usually a lot) for one new product etc
I think Ebay could do a lot more
19-10-2024 8:30 PM - edited 19-10-2024 8:32 PM
Two directives spring to mind for biz sellers;
Accept it or,
Leave the site.
Really quite simple.
All the frustration and stress of seeing ever-increasing fees and costly promotions... Evenings wasted typing out whining screeds on this forum, all gone.
Imaging that