School uniform row/ is sending so many home justified?.

[margaret*e]

Surely the parents know what uniform is allowed.

Trainers weren't allowed back when my sons were at school, and they're in their 40s.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/school-sends-home-more-two-4576613

[ed_blackadder_1]

Look at us posh grammer kids.

I said before our school changed to a comp (a whole new story) so my poor parents had to buy all new uniform again. Luckily brothers could all be bought anywhere so his was so much cheaper.

[lambsy_uk]

In my opinion there should be a strict adherence to schoold uniform and if this results in hundreds of pupils being sent home then so be it.

When my elder daughter first started secondary school we were told of the strict uniform policy, black trousers or skirt, not 'Fashion Trousers' short skirts etc. Black shoes not 'Fashion Shoes' and even a black coat.

This was music to my ears but every now and then I see somone in skinny trousers or inappropriate shoes and I wonder just how well they are enforcing the policy.

Unfortunately the Head Master left not long after my daughter started and he was a diamond, upheld all the rules with air of legitimate authority; since he left I've lost confidence in the place.

[lambsy_uk]

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@al**bear wrote:

The Head says you can get a full outfit (including shoes) for £50, nonsense, cheap and nasty stuff hardly lasts 3 washes

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Well we get our uniform directly from the school, Blazer £25 Tie £5 plus three sports shirts of damn good quality. About £45 the lot. Then we buy shirts and trousers from wherever. About £60 for a full uniform including trousers and a couple of shirts.

I hate seeing bints in narrow fit trousers!

[mustard-tree]

On a different but similar note, a male friend of mine who is in his 60s and is quite slim, finds that 15-16 years boys trousers from supermarket, fit him perfectly.

Cheaper than the same size in mens.

[lambsy_uk]

Do they do trousers in 36 waist with 32 leg in the boys section?

[tommy.irene]

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@lambsy_uk wrote:

Do they do trousers in 36 waist with 32 leg in the boys section?

Yes

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..yes they do do them in Asda cheap

[Anonymous]

My question is......do kids in uniform perform any better at school than those who don't, do they listen better, are they more polite, do they have less time off school, do they become better adults?

No of course they don't, so why oh why a uniform?

Poor people don't have the money to make their kids look "smart" full stop, whether it's for a uniform or normal daily clothes. It's a myth that it works out cheaper to have them wear a uniform. When kids come home they put their normal clothes on and go and play out. So the wear and tear on all their clothes stay the same.

I didn't like my kids wearing a uniform. I  thought it was the biggest nonsense ever heard of.

[upthecreekyetagain]

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@Anonymous wrote:

My question is......do kids in uniform perform any better at school than those who don't, do they listen better, are they more polite, do they have less time off school, do they become better adults?

No of course they don't, so why oh why a uniform?

Poor people don't have the money to make their kids look "smart" full stop, whether it's for a uniform or normal daily clothes. It's a myth that it works out cheaper to have them wear a uniform. When kids come home they put their normal clothes on and go and play out. So the wear and tear on all their clothes stay the same.

I didn't like my kids wearing a uniform. I  thought it was the biggest nonsense ever heard of.

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I'm not sure there is any 'of course' about it!

In this area all those schools at the top of the school's league tables have strict uniform codes - check out the ones in your area.

[millielilac]

Some years ago we went to Capetown and visited a school in the shanty town. The building was falling to pieces and the pupils were crammed in to the rooms with a teacher to the front of the class.

All the children were wearing uniform and were immaculately tirned out . They sang the national anthem ( hands across their hearts ) to our visiting group and I have to say that many in our group were reduced to tears ...my husband included who never cries.

Those children were immensely proud of their school and their uniform ( the parents had to pay to send them there ...a small amount each day but a not easy for those who have virtually nothing ).

It was a really humbling experience ...and so very different from schools in this country ...those children were so happy to able to attend school and wear a uniform .....

A iniform can instil a sense of belonging and discipline and can add to the ethos of a school ...perhaps rather old fashioned ideas ...but maybe not a bad thing . As a former teacher I am in favour of school uniforms ...

[Anonymous]

I'm Dutch, Creeky. Most of my family members are well educated and are in well paid jobs. A doctor, two psychologist, two economists, an under director of a large aeroplane company,  a social worker, a history teacher, an engineer, a paramedic, a primary school teacher,  a music teacher, a computer programmer,  just to name a few.

None ever wore a uniform at school. So I'm comparing my own experience from my culture with that of the English system and don't see what difference a uniform makes to someone's achievements.

I'm the only misfit. Must have been the cowboy boots.... LOL

[al**bear]

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@lambsy_uk wrote:

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Well we get our uniform directly from the school, Blazer £25 Tie £5 plus three sports shirts of damn good quality. About £45 the lot. Then we buy shirts and trousers from wherever. About £60 for a full uniform including trousers and a couple of shirts.

I hate seeing bints in narrow fit trousers!

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The Head said INCLUDING the Shoes

[dr-whos-assistant]

My friends husband has just bought this subject up at a governers meeting, our school seems to be slipping with uniform and hairstyles we want it made stricter before it slips down and becomes a problem. You always have some parents who feel the need to push the rules the same as you always get ones that are always late.

[astrologica]

Lambsy! ......Bints???????? Is that how you refer to women or girls???????? If you have daughters I am sure you would not want to hear them referred to as 'Bints'.

[margaret*e]

Hi astro, and there's a whole new subject,  horrible word, I agree, on the othe hand I've been called much worse on here .

[saasher2012]

I sincerely hope not Marg*e , the many definitions of "Bint" are disrespectful enough!.

[al**bear]

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@marg*e wrote:

Hi astro, and there's a whole new subject,  horrible word, I agree, on the othe hand I've been called much worse on here .

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what a Mackem ?

[margaret*e]

Not that bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H25CayRizq0

[electric*mayhem*band]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I'm Dutch, Creeky. Most of my family members are well educated and are in well paid jobs. A doctor, two psychologist, two economists, an under director of a large aeroplane company,  a social worker, a history teacher, an engineer, a paramedic, a primary school teacher,  a music teacher, a computer programmer,  just to name a few.

None ever wore a uniform at school. So I'm comparing my own experience from my culture with that of the English system and don't see what difference a uniform makes to someone's achievements.

I'm the only misfit. Must have been the cowboy boots.... LOL

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Blimey Harriet, that looks like a Walton's roll call.

Mind you, even dressed in a school uniform, I've seen kids still looking like Worzel Gummidge's offsprings.

[lambsy_uk]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I'm Dutch, Creeky. Most of my family members are well educated and are in well paid jobs. A doctor, two psychologist, two economists, an under director of a large aeroplane company,  a social worker, a history teacher, an engineer, a paramedic, a primary school teacher,  a music teacher, a computer programmer,  just to name a few.

None ever wore a uniform at school. So I'm comparing my own experience from my culture with that of the English system and don't see what difference a uniform makes to someone's achievements.

I'm the only misfit. Must have been the cowboy boots.... LOL

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I'll offer a lessson about non-uniform policy in the UK. I spent 3 years in a sencondary school under a non-uniform policy and it was a nightmare. The kids from wealthier families had all the best gear and many from less wealthy families spent money they couldn't afford to try to get the best gear. Then there were the rest who were the 'Tramps' who had plain cheap clothes of no brand name.

This created a very nasty atmosphere and divisions within the school. A uniform enables you to learn better because no uniform detracts minds from the job and leads them towards bullying and prejudice! Uniform leans towards equality whereas non-uniform leans toward division!

It may be a UK mentality but it's not nice and that's why I want to see strict uniform policies strictly upheld!

[lambsy_uk]

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@astrologica wrote:
Lambsy! ......Bints???????? Is that how you refer to women or girls???????? If you have daughters I am sure you would not want to hear them referred to as 'Bints'.

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If the cap fits!

If a girl spends her time trying to push the boundaries of the uniform policy, plus make-up, ear rings, nail varnish and so on, then they are a bint! If they happily conform and get on with school life they present themselves as good students.

No I would not like my girls to be referred to as bints which is why I make sure there is no reason for them to be referred to as such!