Osborne to give the poorest yet another good kicking

[joe_bloggs*]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/29/george-osborne-benefits-tax-credits-conservative?com...

he announced that a re-elected Tory government would hit 10m households with a two-year freeze on benefits and tax credits.
Same old tories

[electric*mayhem*band]

Give them enough rope - more slack for that nice Mister Farage.

[upthecreekyetagain]

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@electric*mayhem*band wrote:

Give them enough rope - more slack for that nice Mister Farage.

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Hardly - that nice Mr Farage wants to cut them, not just freeze them!

[al**bear]

Is Osborne one of the Undead or an Android like Data from Star Trek ?

The public demand answers, because that smirking evil pasty faced display at Tory conference was not the act of a normal human being

[twohelmets]

He gets my vote and just a shame they cannot be tougher. "The poor" have had an enormous run under the last Labour Government, one that has come close to bankrupting the Country. I'm sick to death of seeing these people whining about how they are so hard done to when thy don't lift a finger to help themselves and / or do nothing to not end up in the situation in the first place, such as using birth control. I know some of "the poor" and all I can say is the definition of poverty seems to be you might have to cut back on your fags a bit.

Benefits Britain, where people often choose to live the benefits life is all too real and it's blossomed under Labour. I'm also sick of hearing about "the bedroom tax" when no such thing has ever existed. What has existed is people living on benefits in houses with spare bedrooms that other people need and working people cannot afford. Of course, the more people living on benefits then all the more people who will never vote for anybody who takes the side of the working man who this to pay for this often extraordinary generosity of the State.

[twohelmets]

And of course, anybody who has seen this State generosity first hand, who objects to the neighbours who get out of bed 10 AM to plan a day of TV and takeaways, ON ME and my hard work, will be beaten about the head with the PC bat for daring to complain.

[lambsy_uk]

A £3 billion saving by freezing certain benefits; sounds like a no-brainer!

He's appealing to the party's core voters, much the same as Ed Balls did, securing the core vote before fighting for the floaters. The election will not be won or lost on this but it's a solid base to start from!

[al**bear]

FAO the above 2 commenter's

TWO THIRDS of the people who will be affected by this draconian attack on the poorest, will be IN WORK, not sitting at home.

Source = The Treasurys OWN figures

[al**bear]

This is the party who told everyone that the poorest workers had gained by over £700 in the Tax cuts they had introduced, which was a lie, the figure was nearer £200, which was  already goobled up by energy and housing costs before the Cuts came into force

[twohelmets]

TWO THIRDS of the people who will be affected by this draconian attack on the poorest, will be IN WORK, not sitting at home.

I love the way DRACONIAN ATTACK is used rather than a very small restriction on an ever growing gravy train. Attack away, I say.

I'm well aware that this SLIGHT RESTRICTION on the ever growing bill will apply to a lot of working people who are also on benefits.

[lambsy_uk]

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@al**bear wrote:

FAO the above 2 commenter's

TWO THIRDS of the people who will be affected by this draconian attack on the poorest, will be IN WORK, not sitting at home.

Source = The Treasurys OWN figures

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Why is this for my attention; I've not mentioned the unemployed?!!!

I'd hardly call a benefits freeze draconian!

[twohelmets]

No, there is nothing "draconian" about freezing the rises. The word is not appropriate but is trotted out like a well worn flag the moment anybody suggests we cut public spending.

[al**bear]

These people have been hammered already by the REAL cost of living rises in the last 4 years, when you have little, further cuts in real terms are Draconian.

Massive handout to very rich pensioners yesterday, shows where their priorities lie

sorry Lambsy, misread your post

[twohelmets]

By cost of living, what do you mean and how have those in work avoided them? People of your persuasion do have a habit of over egging the pudding with your arguments, such as describing some long over due freezing of the ever increasing benefits bill as "draconian", so If you tell tell me about these massive hand outs for rich pensioners then I'm all ears because I doubt the State has just decided to give rich people some more money.

[twohelmets]

In fact a quick bit of googling shows me nothing but suggestions of TAKING yet more money from wealthier pensioners.

Now let me guess....This has been vetoed and so that is a now a "massive handout for rich pensioners, right@?

I am guessing......

[millielilac]

The greatest problem is that the country still has a huge deficit ......it has not gone away and will not disappear even if we choose to ignore it .....its a massive problem.

The deficit needs to be addressed and tough decisions will need to be be made ......it is going to be a problem for years to come ...everyone will be hit in some way ......

However it is hard to justify some decisions made by polticians ....taking family allowance away on one hand ( for some ) then introducing free school meals ( for all infants ) on the other seems bizarre .

Its an odd world .....

[electric*mayhem*band]

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@al**bear wrote:

Is Osborne one of the Undead or an Android like Data from Star Trek ?

The public demand answers, because that smirking evil pasty faced display at Tory conference was not the act of a normal human being

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Nail on head, McB. Ashen faced, thin blue lips, and with a haunted look. If this individual approached you and asked you to become a Blood Donor, would you sign up ?

(Note the claw-like hand).

[lambsy_uk]

I'm sure there was supposed to be something in his speech about tackling the deficit with minimal effect to the welfare budget; he just forgot to mention it!!!

[evoman3957]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmQhbd1KWE

[bankhaunter]

I see IDS has come up with a new way to stigmatise benefit recipients.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773857/Benefits-paid-smart-cards-stop-claimants-spending-mo...

I wonder whose job it will be to decide just who is a 'vulnerable' claimants or will it be for all claimants of working age?

They hope to discourage people from buying alcohol, drugs and betting but making the cards compatible only with a limited number of retailers.

Which will no doubt make the large supermarkets happy and prevent buying from markets etc where many commodities may be a lot cheaper.

'The fairest way to reduce welfare bills is to make sure that benefits are not rising faster than the wages of the taxpayers who are paying for them. For we will provide a welfare system that is fair to those who need it, and fair to those who pay for it too.'

Fair enough but there is no two year wage freeze in the offing so why should there be one for benefits?