JFK .... 50 years on.

[blackburn_stevie]

Previously unseen footage  of the shooting has been released using the 50 year rule.

Claims are being made that the headwound was caused by a shot from the driver of the presidential limo.

Here's a link to the video.

http://tinyurl.com/o5pzx7l

What do you think?

[saasher2012]

The JFK assassination, was & still is a very emotive issue. Mainly I think because of the very nature in which it occurred , in full view of the public & press in all it's graphic content, it will always be remembered for that! What I find hard to watch is the sight of his wife splattered with her husbands life blood, in deep shock& grief having to endure the swearing in of another president whilst in that vulnerable state. Where was the compassion for her feelings! Shame on them!!.

[mepixin12]

Yeah reality can be harsh, especially under such circumstances.

Can I throw out a question, this is not to criticise in any way, just asking....as everyone is different.

I know what mine would be, but what would your reaction be, (what action if any putting yourself in the car with a loved one) in the situation Jackie Kennedy found herself, just after the last shot her husband sustained?

[saasher2012]

That's a very good but difficult question to answer . The animal instinct would be to run away from it, or to stay & give way to hysteria. Jackie I believe did both, the bodies defence to a massive terror shock like that can make you react in a strange way to an onlooker. My honest answer to your question, I really don't know& in Gods honest truth, I wouldn't want to be in that position to put it to the test.

[**caution**opinion_ahead]

Remember she had lost a newborn only a few weeks earlier, so she was probably not in the strongest emotional state to start with.

[mepixin12]

Good point caution, totally forgot that, yes, she did look a little "faraway" in some shots of her in the limo, and even after first hit.

[saasher2012]

In all , she held it together , what she did behind close doors we will never know& I hope she was given the privacy she deserved! On reflection we forget she also was a victim & lived with that for the rest of her life. It is still horrific to us even now, but what must it have been like for her?

[renomarvinm]

Just a thought - if the "Truth" of this event (if there is such a thing) is known to those occupying the highest circles in our government here in the USA, then it must be, by definition, highly explosive in such a way that if it were somehow known to the public, a violent reaction, perhaps even war, would be called for.  

Better, perhaps, to let the lunatic fringe expound its many theories, thus giving a relief valve of sorts to the built up pressures.  In a practical sense, this leaves us with just two choices:  First, that something highly catastrophic at the highest government levels did actually happen, or Second, that it was just a lone disaffected mad man who shot him, for reasons little understood.

I tend to believe it was the latter, but it is disturbing that he was never allowed to speak before he was shot.  

Egad, I'm becoming paranoid - it's so darned easy!!!

[saasher2012]

Thank you for your views, that's the second one from an American, I would like to see more& yes i like that theory!

[saasher2012]

Oops ! Sorry just struck me , you are the other American, please accept my apologies. Sam

[cee-dee]

LHO did speak, he denied having shot anyone in spite of the fact that he'd just shot and killed a cop.

[mepixin12]

Yes it does tend to suck you in, even if like yourself you think one way, then more phots's or video gets unearthed....it's got you again, taxing the little grey cells.  No doubt there will be more to come and for many more years.

[cee-dee]

All the films and photos are already there to be seen if people take the trouble to look rather than latching on to some half-baked theory invented by people who want to believe anything other than what a close examination of the evidence clearly shows.

The only thing that is missing is an in-depth explanation/reasoning by LHO.

[saasher2012]

Hi Cd, just been able to study some more Pathology pics, clearly shows entrance wound at back of head, in retrospect looking at the exit wound I can see why people think it was a side shot, in conclusion the pics I have now seen shows the damage I was referring to in an earlier posting, it also shows clearly the point I was making about bullet deflection after first entering & exiting the target!.One more point& this is a bit of a curve ball, please feel free to shoot me down in flames, if as the theorists are correct & a conspiracy was at hand, why are there so many witnesses if indeed they conspired to rid themselves of LHO why would they allow others to live ,surely more individuals would be turning up on the Mortuary slab?

[cee-dee]

Conjecture can lead to the finding of evidence but pure conjecture alone has no part in an investigation.

In the end, the evidence will lead to a conclusion.

It was pretty clear (once everything had been considered) that two bullets hit JFK and those bullets entered from behind. Had the head-shot been fired from the front or the side, the damage to JFK would have been different and Jackie would have been injured if not killed.

[saasher2012]

If you look back to my posting on the 15th you will see I did raise the point of two shots to the head , when I was raising P M distortion of the top of the skull.

[cee-dee]

Did you mean this one or the one before that?

"Aah ! It must have been the third shot that hit him in the head, if the first hit him in the back, does that mean the second went astray or did the second also hit him in the head, cos that would explain the distortion at the back of the skull before the massive injury that followed?"

The second shot missed and I think it ended up hitting a traffic sign.

The third shot was the head shot.

Had the second shot also hit the head, it would have shown up in the film and the damage would have been enormous if the second and third had hit the head.

Bullet fragments were found in the area around the road and I don't know which bullet they were from. One bullet was recovered from Connally.

[saasher2012]

Thanks , silly of me let's face it if the second had hit the mark his third would have hit Jackie, becauseJFK would be recumbent!

[renomarvinm]

Hi Sam!  That's OK,  My girlfriend often calls me "The Other American" too, which worries me a lot.  (Just kidding!):manlol:  It's nice to be here!

Getting back to conspiracy theories - one of the most disturbing "theories", to me anyway, is the fact that Ruby and Oswald apparently knew each other quite well.  The theory, sometimes expounded by the ultra-right wing fringe (those charming people who go to Soldier of Fortune Gun Shows, wearing camouflage outfits over their huge beer bellies) is that Ruby was Oswald's "Control" and was actually assigned to "sanction" him should he be captured or compromised in any way.

For the sake if what is left of my remaining sanity (very little there, I'll admit) I most definitely do NOT believe that one.  But it would make a great movie thriller - probably has somewhere or another, the way things have been going.

Best always,  Bob here in Eugene, Oregon, where it is still raining!!!! 

[saasher2012]

Hi Bob, nice to have you back ! Keep those conspiracist theories coming in, it's good to hear . Keeps us from going stale. Let's face it people wouldn't be able to make money if it was just a straight forward killing ,some people have been making a good living out of this, don't you think? & if it's any consolation the weather in this country is ruBbish as well. Sam

[renomarvinm]

Hi Sam!  My Pleasure!  And  I am sorry about your weather!!  We could trade low pressure zones......drip, drip, drip, etc.  Hee, Hee.

Looking back over the many conspiracy theories I have heard over the years - foolish me for not blocking my ears at the moments involved - I have to admit that I have only one real regret, and it is that the Porn industry or the presence of Parking Meter Maids  wasn't somehow woven into a theory or two.  Not that I wanted them to be, particularly, but I always thought such an involvement, however utterly bizarre it could be (and it would be truly bizarre - I believe that) would somehow spice things up a bit.  And, no, I don't particularly love meter maids.....but ever onward.

I mean, really, the same old conspiracy theories over and over, etc. - after a while it's like watching 1960's Mission Impossible reruns....  We need some new theories to keep the thing going..