Covid-19.

[cee-dee]

Reading and listening to the news reports about the spread of the virus, the common denominator seems to be travel?

Surely if travel was halted until the incidences of the virus have "died down", the spread to other countries wouldn't happen?

[astrologica]

Looks like we senior citizens will be confined to our homes before long!

[cee-dee]

Failing that, the execution squads will be round 

[upthecreekyetagain]

That link most definitely doesn't align with your definition of "bed blocker"!

Your definition  . . I'd define a "bed blocker" as someone who's refusing to either be moved or go home when they're perfectly able to do so.



'Their definition . . "Bed blockers" is the somewhat derogatory term used to describe patients - most of them elderly - who are occupying a hospital bed that they don't strictly need. In almost all cases, it isn't their fault; rather, their discharge will have been delayed because the NHS hasn't completed the necessary paperwork or the local authority hasn't been able to organise the next stage of their care.  

[**bustysbargains**]

CD a bed blocker isn't a patient in the true sence of the word because they no longer NEED the medical care that a hospital provides.
They maybe old and confined to bed but the only reason a " bed blocker" is in a hospital bed is because there is insuffient beds in nursing care homes and the poor person has nowhere to go. They are a bed blocker because they are occupying a needed bed needed for someone who does require medical attention. It is a name only not an implication that a person is being awkward in refusing to leave their bed or anything else.

[**bustysbargains**]

Astro, I beleive home is best, but again there is not enough qualified staff for home care and according to the government too expensive.

Care of our ailing senior citizens is a complete mess.

[cee-dee]

I think it's insulting to call those folks bed-blockers. True bed blockers are those who refuse to leave for whatever reason.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/20/hospital-takes-court-action-evict-bed-blocker-refused-le...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2944329/nhs-bed-blocker-poole-hospital-takeaways/

[cee-dee]

It's all gone quiet on here?

I've not seen any word in the press about my thoughts in #37? No-one I talk to has thought of it either.

One drug appears to "work" against covid-19, it's called remdesivir. It seems it was given to a bloke they expected to die but after being given it, he quickly recovered.

I read this too:-

http://www.natap.org/2020/newsUpdates/020620_03.htm

[fallen-archie]

I think that those who have been out to stock up on toilet rolls and pasta are now self isolating. It’s a bit like Y2K all over again, and no one wants to talk about it, it has taken over from
Brexit as the theme of the hour so it’s not all bad I suppose 😳

[upthecreekyetagain]

Re your #37 ~ I would think it depends on whether the pneumonia contracted previously was bacterial or viral pneumonia - the latter is the least common but does offer protection against catching viral pneumonia a second time.

Which version does Covid-19 make a patient susceptible to?

[suzieseaside]

I assume viral.
I had both together when I was 4, and nearly karked it, but I imagine that either are not good for anyone with other health issues.

[cee-dee]

Thank you UTCYA and SS. Since I wrote #47 I've just found this on the NHS website:-

The pneumococcal vaccine protects against serious and potentially fatal pneumococcal infections. ... The childhood vaccine (PCV) protects against 13 strains of the pneumococcal bacterium, while the adult vaccine(PPV) protects against 23

[suzieseaside]

But not against the covid virus.
Pneumonia is the condition that can result from various bacteria, virus and fungi. And if viral won't respond to antibiotics.

[cee-dee]

True. However, some people get covid-19 and sail through it OK.

Others develop pneumonia and it's the pneumonia that can kill people off which is why I'm wondering if having had the pneumonia jab whether it will prevent you developing pneumonia should you get covid-19.

[suzieseaside]

I don't know but according to the WHO, it doesn't.

[bankhaunter]

No it won't protect those who have had the pneumonia vaccine, it doesn't protect against the type of pneumonia that comes from covid19.

[upthecreekyetagain]

Looks like us 'wrinklies' will soon be forced to stay at home.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/14/must-do-everything-power-protect-lives/

In the near future we will take further steps. SAGE has advised the next planned effective interventions will need to be instituted soon, including measures to ‘shield’ older and medically vulnerable people from the virus. Everyone will need to help to ensure they get the support they need to stay at home, and to protect them from the consequences of isolation: loneliness, and a lack of support. Government, local councils, charities, friends and neighbours will need to be part of the national effort to support the shielded. We will provide expert advice and support as soon as we progress to this phase.

Next week we will publish our emergency bill, to give the Government the temporary powers we will need to help everyone get through this. The measures in it allow for the worst case scenario. I hope many of them won’t be needed. But we will ask Parliament for these powers in case they are.

[john.b74]

International Evangelical English Church; Gran Canaria
2 hrs ·
Hi Everybody.
I post this in good faith and believe that what I am sharing is from reliable sources.
It would appear that from midnight tonight (Sat 14th March) Gran Canaria is in lockdown.
All retail activity is suspended apart from businesses selling foodstuffs, pharmacies, tobacconists, suppliers of IT equipment, newsstands, hairdressers and dry cleaners.
Museums, sports venues, bars and restaurants must close, with the exception of those that deliver meals to people’s homes.
You can only leave your home/residence for the following reason,
1.You can only be on the streets if you are buying food or going to pharmacy for medication
2.Visiting a bank
3.Going to work or returning from work where working from home impossible and on minimum staff.
4.Home helps and carers helping dependent people
5. Any creditable or essential reason.

Stay safe, don’t panic, follow hygiene directions, keep the faith ,look out for each other and look out especially for those in need and those in vulnerable categories.

Blessing Gavin.

[cee-dee]

Oh heck, this is a bit much?:-

The self-isolation measure would mean people being asked to remain at home without visitors and with vital supplies dropped off for them on their doorsteps.

Speaking to Sky News' Sophy Ridge, Mr Hancock was asked if the advice would be in place for four months as has been reported.

He said: "We'll be setting it out with more detail when it is the right time to do so."

But he added the reason the measure has not been implemented yet is the length of time required is "very long".

[cee-dee]

Some differences in Hancock's statement on the government website:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/health-secretary-matt-hancocks-sunday-telegraph-op-ed

[suzieseaside]

At least there is some good news - IS have instructed terrorists to avoid Europe so they don't get the lurgy.