Could it happen here.

[tommy.irene]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27593504

[saasher2012]

Truly shocking reading,& hasn't an honour killing already happened here ?.

[bankhaunter]

Dishonour killings have happened in the UK, the difference is here they are a case of murder, they are not treated as a 'domestic'.

Neither do we have the concept of blood money so members of the family cannot get away with it by simply being forgiven by other members, of all the reported incidents in Pakistan 80% of the perpretators get away with it.

I would also hope in the UK that bystanders would not just simply stand and watch.

[evoman3957]

All it needs for Evil to triumph........is for good Men to do nothing !

[rose2008-2008]

Another ridiculous ritualistic thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[malacandran]

Multicultural chickens coming home to roost....

[merehazle]

Oh NO!!!  she was ''8 months'' pregnant too.  And It seems nobody tried to stop them. Not even the police.

Damn the lot of them to hell.  Round the police up and  the family that did it, and do the same to them.  (do the same to the damn government). 

That would cure the wicked evil Bars---ds !!! In cases like this 'an eye for an eye'  is the deserved sentence IMO.

And there are more than a thousand such cases a year in that country. And I think I heard right that Under Islamic traditions they get off.

Another unbelievably cruel attack to their woman is the acid attack! (almost unheard of to their men)  Our brave Katie Piper, was one victim, here in UK. And how horiffic was that.    Google her name if you wish to know  the story.

OP' you would not neccesarily know of course if they have happened here. See message 3. 

Farzana Paveen and baby  R.I.P

[bankhaunter]

And I think I heard right that Under Islamic traditions they get off.

Not just a tradition but the law.

A relative of the murdered person can forgive their murderer so when it's the family involved in the killing, they have carte blanch.

Incidentally it transpires the woman's husband strangled his first wife in order to marry her.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/husband-of-pakistani-woman-stoned-to-death-strangled-first-...

In a startling twist, Parveen's husband Mohammad Iqbal, 45, admitted to AFP on Thursday that he had killed his first wife — and was spared prison because he was forgiven for the act by his son.

[evoman3957]

It's just a shame that some of these Emerging and expanding economies, can't expand their intelligence and primitive  behaviour at the same rate. You can dress a Pig in a suit and a Bowler Hat.................but It'll still be a Pig.

[merehazle]

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@ bankhaunter wrote:

And I think I heard right that Under Islamic traditions they get off.

Not just a tradition but the law.

A relative of the murdered person can forgive their murderer so when it's the family involved in the killing, they have carte blanch.

Incidentally it transpires the woman's husband strangled his first wife in order to marry her.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/husband-of-pakistani-woman-stoned-to-death-strangled-first-...

In a startling twist, Parveen's husband Mohammad Iqbal, 45, admitted to AFP on Thursday that he had killed his first wife — and was spared prison because he was forgiven for the act by his son.

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Thank you. That explains why the police were just watching.

So was the father, who like most of the watchers obviously knew she was 8 months pregnant.

So he, like most knew they were killing baby too.  And I understand that under Sharia law, the stones should be selected so that they don't kill too quick, or too slow.  I also hear that some were even throwing house bricks. Can anyone immagine one smashing into her unborn baby? (where was their God?)  Well of course you can. We can immagine anything cant we. Trouble is this is reality.

'Incidently it transpires that the woman's husband strangled his first wife in order to marry her'  Thank you. Oh dear, can it get any worse?

Muhummad Iqbal, the 45-year-old husband of Farzana Parveen, who was beaten to death by 20 male relatives, said he strangled his  first wife, in order to marry Parveen.   (imagine this man l living next door?)

He  avoided a prison sentence after his family used Islamic provisions of Pakistan's legal system to forgive him, precisely those he has insisted should not be available to his wife's killers. 

Yes it CAN get worse.

[saasher2012]

The irony is he now is frightened he will be killed? Poor man! I wonder if he considered his first wife's feelings as he was murdering her. & I believe the article says his second wife was 3mnths pregnant not 8mnths not that it makes any difference the end result is the same!.

[merehazle]

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@saasher2012 wrote:
The irony is he now is frightened he will be killed? Poor man! I wonder if he considered his first wife's feelings as he was murdering her. & I believe the article says his second wife was 3mnths pregnant not 8mnths not that it makes any difference the end result is the same!.

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Yes, as you say the end result is the same.  These evil brain washed killers get away with it. That includes their government.  They say Islamic provisions of Pakistan's legal system.  Are we in 2014 or 1014?  

According to the Human Rights Commission (wow! some commission) of Pakistan, 869 women were ''murdered'' in honour killings in 2013.

Many perpetrators of attacks in Pakistan against women are not adequately punished and, as a result, the majority of incidents go unreported.

She married without the families consent (does this vile sentence only apply to women I wonder?).  Well I cant recall their men being stoned to death.

Her father said: ''I killed my daughter as she had insulted ALL our family by marrying a man without our consent and I have no regret over it''.  That's because he was brain washed just like the other 869 killer's. And like them has NO heart. 

Oh the pathetic cowardly evil lot.  Forward into the middle ages, and all caring sharia law at work. If only the women and their unborn babies had the human right to be treated like the men 869 of them might still be alive. 

[saasher2012]

I feel even then is it worth it when the giver of life is treated with such disdain not just in this country but world wide?

[bankhaunter]

Would that giver of life be the same one who is only all too ready to take it away at a whim?

[saasher2012]

Sorry ! Please explain ?

[saasher2012]

When I said in this country I meant where this honour killing is going on!

[bankhaunter]

I thought you were referring to a different 'giver of life' so I must apologise.

I would have to agree with you given the morals of western society although even then I have heard someone state that if he thought God told him to kill his child he would do so, however whether or not he would actually have done so is a another matter.

We have to bear in mind largely in the society where this particular killing is involved, daughters are thought of more as property than a loved child.

[saasher2012]

No problem. lol. Although it's a sad state of affairs that a child is thought of as property so saying in this country royal& so called high born children were also used as political pawns to gain power & wealth for the whole of the family & really not that long ago if you think about it!.

[bankhaunter]

It's certainly the case that much of the thinking of what we might consider backward societies was in place in western society although it gradually died out over the years, it can be seen where women still are not always treated as equal to men.

The reasoning behind the burqua is little different from the token head covering that women following the Catholic faith wear in church.

[saasher2012]

Did we not also consider it disrespectful for a women not to wear a hat in Church, times change but for some they are so brainwashed they will never change.