Chemical castration for paedophiles.

[eva-dav]

I don't think anyone can deny that the recent rise in convictions of sexual offences is stretching the prison service to the brink.

Most don't believe there is any cure for paedophilia, so is chemical castration the answer for repeat offenders?

I'm not suggesting we go quite as far as Russia, where it can be ordered by a court, although I'm open to persuasion on that.

What surprises me is that while most offenders express deep sorrow for their crimes as mitigation, so few volunteer for the treatment.  I see no better way to demonstrate true contrition than to have the temptation permanently removed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11169677/Raise-funds-to-pay-for-chemical-cas...

[lambsy_uk]

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@d_cor99 wrote:

Understanding is fine, 

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Glad you agree!

[lambsy_uk]

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@marg*e wrote:

I've seen bits of a few of these programmes, and often wonder if those so determined to defend paedophiles are that way inclined themselves.

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Conversely Marge studies have been done using homosexual pornography and it was found that those who were most vocal and discriminatory against homosexuals were more aroused by the homosexual pornography than others. It suggested that "Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."

So perhaps there is a similar correlation regarding those who protest the most againt paedophilia!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u47/Henry_et_al.pdf

http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/12/06/proof-that-homophobia-is-associated-with-homosexual-arou...

http://www.wired.com/2011/06/homophobia-is-apparently-associated-with-homosexual-arousal/

[margaret*e]

Studies/surveys can be slanted to give the results wanted.

Homophobia and homosexual acts between consenting adults are a far different subject than abuse of defnceless children.

[lambsy_uk]

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@marg*e wrote:

Studies/surveys can be slanted to give the results wanted.

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They can also provide great insight!

[saasher2012]

Incorrect ,not only to compare sexuality between apes & humans but also to say they do it with anything in sight!!!.
This group of apes are known to enjoy sex SIMILAR to humans but it is used to diffuse, comfort etc , etc, they keep it within the troupe.further to that it isn't always full sex just the motions. Participants are willing nothing is forced!!!!

[lambsy_uk]

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@saasher2012 wrote:
Participants are willing nothing is forced!!!!

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Where have we heard that before?!

You asked the question and I gave the answer, that is all!

[saasher2012]

I don't know why you are so scathing on other people's opinions that differ from your own.
You are the one comparing apes to humans.not I .
Your answer was inaccurate & verging on smutty!!!!!!.

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[lambsy_uk]

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@saasher2012 wrote:
I don't know why you are so scathing on other people's opinions that differ from your own.
You are the one comparing apes to humans.not I .
Your answer was inaccurate & verging on smutty!!!!!!.

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You asked if it occured in the animal kingdom, I said yes it does.

I would have hoped it could have been left there but you asked if I had evidence and I told you what I had seen. I apologise if the way I told it offended you.

[saasher2012]

Apology accepted, Thankyou !.

[malacandran]

I was wondering, whether there are any female paedophiles. Do ladies ever go in for this sort of thing. Or is it only blokes who indulge in it?

[023mjc]

Women do it too. I read a magazine artical many years ago and somewhere in America there is a prison especialy for them. It's full.

[kiss*my*pixel]

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@023mjc wrote:

Women do it too. I read a magazine artical many years ago and somewhere in America there is a prison especialy for them. It's full.

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023mjc - can I ask what magazine that was, how long ago it might have been, and where in America it was, please?

Tried Googling, but can't find it at the moment. Not sure how far to go back.

Thanks

[upthecreekyetagain]

Worth a read

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8022861.stm

[d_cor99]

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@lambsy_uk wrote:

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@d_cor99 wrote:

Understanding is fine, 

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Glad you agree!

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I clearly wasn't agreeing with you, and had you not taken a couple of words out many, in context, it would have been clear 

This is what I actually said..,.."Understanding is fine, as some seem to think such paedophilic related crimes do not exist, or try to pretend they don’t. Paedophiles as shown by some recent arrests, are not someone ‘out there’ but are often professionals, people with positions of trust, authority, not just some obvious deviant.That’s understanding"

'understanding' as you imply,  is where we were. Many understood Savile, and in their understanding did nothing, because it was understandable.Same with Smith and now it appears many others. We 'understood' and accepted. whilst children were abused, because much like some here, victims -children in this case- didn't matter

You may consider that understanding - I dont

[d_cor99]

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@lambsy_uk wrote:

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@marg*e wrote:

I've seen bits of a few of these programmes, and often wonder if those so determined to defend paedophiles are that way inclined themselves.

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Conversely Marge studies have been done using homosexual pornography and it was found that those who were most vocal and discriminatory against homosexuals were more aroused by the homosexual pornography than others. It suggested that "Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."

So perhaps there is a similar correlation regarding those who protest the most againt paedophilia!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u47/Henry_et_al.pdf

http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/12/06/proof-that-homophobia-is-associated-with-homosexual-arou...

http://www.wired.com/2011/06/homophobia-is-apparently-associated-with-homosexual-arousal/

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 The links you gave, you refer to studies -plural - yet despite giving 4 links, they all appear to relate just to one small 1996 study in Georgia. According to one of the comentators in one link, it was never followed up or replicated elsewhere

[d_cor99]

I'd suggest not all paedophiles view/distribute images!

I'd suggest that had nothing to do with the point at issue and is meaningless in context.I will remind you of  that point since you seem to be unclear.It was your assertion there needed to be an assault and until that happened there was no offence.I pointed out that was incorrect and gave an example

As for naming, I wasn't aware I was offering any options

The implication is that neither is a choice, end off!

No, the implication is by emotional appeal hoping to bypass reason in the process. The causes  of paedophilia are far less agreed upon than homosexuality.

Some peoples interest is to try to remove the paedophilia content, as though it didn't exist thereby trying to downplay the nature and impact on victims they are apparently unconcerned about,when clearly  the crime is the sexual abuse of children/minors

Lets be perfectly clear about that, and not hide behind pithy pedantry, in the hope some may overlook, be taken in  or simply not notice. 

As for the OP, question to return, clearly reducing one aspect of motivation may be of some help to some in offender management

[lambsy_uk]

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@malacandran wrote:

I was wondering, whether there are any female paedophiles. Do ladies ever go in for this sort of thing. Or is it only blokes who indulge in it?

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I recall several cases of women teachers being prosecuted for abusing underaged boys.

[lambsy_uk]

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@d_cor99 wrote:

 The links you gave, you refer to studies -plural - yet despite giving 4 links, they all appear to relate just to one small 1996 study in Georgia. According to one of the comentators in one link, it was never followed up or replicated elsewhere

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Maybe we should try a similar study with those most vociferous about paedophiles, would you like to volunteer?

[lambsy_uk]

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@d_cor99 wrote:

No, the implication is by emotional appeal hoping to bypass reason in the process. 

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I never bypass reason.

I acknoledge that assualt is not the only crime associated with paedophilia, can you acknowledge that paedophilia is not a crime?