Your funds will be available for payout once we receive delivery confirmation

[silverfoxx68]

Hi I've just received this message contacted ebay and is being sent to everyone 

That's me I'm done no more ebay for me bye bye

We are making changes to the way we process payments on eBay. Going forward, we’ll make your funds available for payout within 48 hours after we’ve confirmed delivery of the item. Until then, you’ll see a “hold” on your funds. This process helps keep our marketplace safe.

[streetfighter-customs]

its legal to use other peoples money on stocks and shares and claim intrest on without prior written consent ?

is it really 

if it is their money in the first place yes 

but as it is not their money in the first place i very much doubt it 

i shall have to look into this 

maybe ebay found a loophole in the system they can exploit

("like they are not used to exploiting")

come back paypal all is forgiven 

[bleur83]

I am selling postal stamps from my private collection. Decision made by ebay change everything for me. I decided to update my account to business as then advice. I didn't have access to my balance for first 2 days and then I found that ebay charge me £87 for relisting my ended items. Most of the items I sale for minimum what is £0.99. I decided to remove my all listening same time as I found how bad decision I made. Ebay give me bad advice. It's the worst customer service I ever speak to. Indian lady located abroad. I should have 14 days cooling time to change my mind but they don't want to respect law in the country where they run the business. Finally, I decided to stop selling items on ebay. I am not stupid to pay around £700 a month just for insertion fees.

[andha-21]

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@goodibags wrote:

@andha-21 Hi,

I lost the discussion where this was being discussed in detail but how do you feel about Payment Retention being brought in for ALL private sellers when buyer fees were only being charged on Electronic items (Thurs 6th)? These were originally intended to start together.

I sold 5 items since then and not one has incurred the new BPFs but my payments are being retained anyway. There'll be many other sellers in the same boat, BPF still hasn't reached all categories. 

I know we're all just Ebay 'suppliers' these days but if Ebay was not technically the 'seller' (before their protection 'service' started) then isn't it a bit dodgy for them to be sitting on the money?

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Hi there and I'll definitely have a look at this a bit later. Sorry, but wiped right now. Need a coffee and rest first.

Oh and did you read the terms & conditions for March 17th? I skimmed it earlier but don't know if I missed anything worth focusing on.

[goodibags]

Thanks for the reminder, I'll need to check those out.

It's still over a month away but I'll need to order the correct-sized 'operative/slave' uniform that fits. 😀

[streetfighter-customs]

5 items your lucky

i have found that since i have been posting what some would call ("subversive remarks") on the here

my sales have bottomed out

maybe its ebay sending me a message to shut up and deal with it 

ie: like it or lump it ("just showing me whos in control of your listings")

time to find another platform a guess

[goodibags]

It was me with the 5 sales since payment retention came in.

And it won't be your 'subversive' remarks. I give Ebay a hard time too, but am grateful that my buyers don't seem to wander down here into the (community) basement.

Hopefully your sales will pick up as more users are able to log in again?

[ett1954]

"EBAY ARE NOT A BANK 

THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO HOLD ONTO OTHER PEOPLES MONEY"

They don't; they use Adyen who are an acquiring bank and process all payments.  The money will be held by Adyen until disbursement.

"what ebay are doing IS ilegal" - try again.

[sunshinedior67]

eBay aren't going to do that as their aim is to hold proceeds for the
longest time to maximise the interest they earn. You'd also think it's fair
that buyers could request payment following delivery and do away with the,
request immediate payment from buyer. Now sellers have to rely on couriers
scanning their deliveries which is what they should do or buyers leaving
feedback. Sellers will have to bombard buyers with messages regarding
delivery & that will put off future buyers who simply want their goods
hassle free.
I'm always professional & courteous to my buyers from the moment they
purchase & my 100% feedback reflects how well I do but now sellers
literally need to build personal relationships with buyers to ensure they
help me release payments. I'm currently drafting a customer letter to
explain that eBay are holding their money & capitalising from it for goods
belonging to seller / buyer. I'm pretty sure that many buyers will be
surprised that their money hasn't gone to the seller they think their
buying from.

[goodibags]

I misread that as 'I'm currently dating a customer'.

... which would, probably, be taking things TOO far. 😁

[andha-21]

If it was Charlize Theron, I'd disagree. 

[goodibags]

Sorry, she hasn't bought anything off Ebay for literally days!

[streetfighter-customs]

payment following delivery mmmmm

so even if the tracking says its been delivered and the customer is saying it has not 

so where is the seller rotection in this senario ?

it is already well known about the amount of frausters on ebay claiming the item undelivered

do you not think in this day and age 

with everybody penny pinching this is not going to happen more?

totally agreed i to am always professional with all my buyers 

and all my items are treated with the upmost urgency 

but it still does not give ebay the right to hold onto peoples money

ebay was always known for a quick sale and quick money via paypal

have ebay not noticed the drop in people searching 

or even selling since they drop paypal

might as well build myself a website and sell from there 

just use ebay as a affiliate website to post my link on

like they do with us

[haynesexplains]

You might get a reduction in this stupid fee system if the lady or man
works at feebay!!!

[streetfighter-customs]

mmmm even adyen is based in the netherlands 

is not the netherlands where most of the scams come out from?

[sunshinedior67]

I'll join you in your website for sure. Yes buyers claiming item but
delivered is a problem and that why I worry about asking a buyer if it's
arrived because apart from looking incompetent it may make them think well
if the seller can't tell I'll say it hasn't. I'm going to send Royal Mail
signed for as that's the only way to get delivery recorded. I'll have to
increase the item price to counter balance. Buyers will soon see they're
not getting bargains on eBay & drift away ♥️

[pheobesmallandfurry]

ive ended all my listing now . and advertising else where

[andha-21]

Sorry I'm knackered but I have a vague memory the new managed payment timeframes were to do with the delivery side. Why they allowed items valued under £10 a different set of rules.

So as I understood it the factors were customer feedback and proof of delivery but I'm virtually asleep so I may be forgetting something.

[streetfighter-customs]

not your job to ask your customer if its arrived 

about time ebay cs did their job 

i think its about time ebay listed what their actual fees pay for 

ie i get a itemised coulcil tax bill

what ebay cannot do the same

probably just got used to ebay getting money for nothing

[patrcl-8083]

Just had a conversation with eBay. Apparently, even though the buyer has left positive feedback, that isn't sufficient proof of delivery confirmation. You have to send an item tracked (mine sold for a fiver, so it wasn't worth paying extra for the postage) or you don't get your funds released. Presumably if the buyer pays for an aeroplane trailing a banner saying "Thank you for the CD it's great" that isn't sufficient proof of delivery either?  

[patrcl-8083]

Customer feedback is not considered sufficient proof of delivery - it has to be tracked for your funds to be released.