Your funds will be available for payout once we receive delivery confirmation

Hi I've just received this message contacted ebay and is being sent to everyone 

 

That's me I'm done no more ebay for me bye bye

 

We are making changes to the way we process payments on eBay. Going forward, we’ll make your funds available for payout within 48 hours after we’ve confirmed delivery of the item. Until then, you’ll see a “hold” on your funds. This process helps keep our marketplace safe.

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@sheffieldsvintage wrote:

No I really did NOT miss the point pmsl, too funny that you actually replied with another long winded speech....


The length of a response  to you is entirely governed by the information it contains  and given you declared you did not understand  and were therefore in need of further explanation the response was entirely appropriate . 

 

The best thing you can do is not read the thread or respond  if you are fed up with it rather than trying to take your short comings out on other members who are interested !

 

 

 

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@dch2112011 wrote:

@sheffieldsvintage wrote:

No I really did NOT miss the point pmsl, too funny that you actually replied with another long winded speech....


The length of a response  to you is entirely governed by the information it contains  and given you declared you did not understand  and were therefore in need of further explanation the response was entirely appropriate . 

 

The best thing you can do is not read the thread or respond  if you are fed up with it rather than trying to take your short comings out on other members who are interested !

 

 

 


 

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Oh dear god.......I shall refrain from telling you what the best thing you should do lol

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Hold your horses guys just read this interesting article what EBay proposes is actually illegal it seems:

 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6579566/ebay-gone-to-far-with-new-policy-change-from...

 

People have a right to be outraged what if you are nearing bankrupcy and need money urgently to pay of debts?  EBay was good for this not so much lately seems dominated by big businesses and seems a little bit dodgier than before. 

 

I mainly used it for decluttering but did seriously consider starting a small business before reading further.  I do know feel that EBay is going under and will be outcompeted by other companies e.g. Etsy Vinted and Facebook marketplace is becoming bigger as well.  

 

Will see a mass lot of good this week and next just for the sake of it and it can be useful to locate difficult to find things but think will post my last remaining items on and then see what happens. 

 

 

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@norwichchris wrote:

Hold your horses guys just read this interesting article what EBay proposes is actually illegal it seems:

 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6579566/ebay-gone-to-far-with-new-policy-change-from...

 


@norwichchris except for all the replies to that initial post pointing out that not only is it not illegal, but the OP clearly didn't fully read or understand the update because they didn't seem to get that it doesn't apply to business accounts?

 

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be basing my decisions about how to interpret the new eBay policies or what to do with my account once they go into effect on that.

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Did you actually read what that poster put?

 

That's not an informed article by MSE, it's yet another ill-informed rant by an ebay seller who doesn't understand the changes.

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@norwichchris wrote:

Hold your horses guys just read this interesting article what EBay proposes is actually illegal it seems:

 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6579566/ebay-gone-to-far-with-new-policy-change-from...


Where in that article (forum discussion) does it state or confirm that what eBay is proposing is actually illegal?

 


@norwichchris wrote:

People have a right to be outraged what if you are nearing bankrupcy and need money urgently to pay of debts?  EBay was good for this not so much lately seems dominated by big businesses and seems a little bit dodgier than before. 


If someone is nearing bankruptcy and needs money urgently to pay off debts then selling on eBay or pretty much any online platform is really not the way to do so as there is far too much risk involved.  What happens if the buyer requires a refund and the seller has already spent the proceeds? 

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Ok, you got me I misread that last part but the policy doesn't really make much sense at all 

 

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"no It's NOT illegal  for a company to hold funds in bank account to earn interest. But they must account for that interest. Now I was sure a company can do what ever it likes with money you pay them. Though this is slightly different as the buyer pays ebay who don’t own your item, and they hold your funds now till 2 days after delivery. I don't feel this holding sellers funds till delivery is legal? Though I'm not sure as I can't get answers and a solicitor will charge a lot for this information.

But I would of thought:- As a seller of a product I'm sure you should have the rights to get the money in your bank before posting anything, surely ebay can't hold my funds from the very start of sale, as the item is not their property from the very point it is sold?"

 

Thats the bit that stuck out to me, Sellers have rights to under the law maybe anyone who knows anything about UK Law step in? how exactly does EBay want you to prove an item has been posted even say a cheap game or comic? 

 

I did research further down though and the article raises a lot of interesting points as well as examples of worser auction sites.  

 

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Sorry for the double post It's  also know very difficult to use contrast this to Facebook marketplace easy as eating pie. 

 

I got this weird message when tried to post one of my items what does it mean? 

"Business profile name is a duplicate"

 

Under where did the postage options.

 

Another dig will make will be EBay seriously you think Evri is more recommended then Royal Mail? Royal Mail is awesome a great service!!!

 

 
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@norwichchris wrote:

 

Thats the bit that stuck out to me, Sellers have rights to under the law maybe anyone who knows anything about UK Law step in? how exactly does EBay want you to prove an item has been posted even say a cheap game or comic? 


@norwichchris I'd recommend reading the actual eBay policy pages instead of posts like the one you linked to that are obviously not well informed.

 

eBay has made it pretty clear - the only way to "prove" an item is posted is to have tracking with an acceptance scan from the carrier and to "prove" delivery you would also have to have a delivery confirmation scan on that tracking.

 

If you can't or won't/don't want to use a tracked shipping method, or if you do send via a tracked method but there is no delivery confirmation, then funds will become available 14 days after the order date - assuming the buyer has not raised an item not received claim and/or that the funds aren't being held longer for other reasons.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/selling/getting-paid/getting-paid-items-youve-sold?id=4814#section2

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I don't know much about UK law, but any legal questions about this set up are likely resolved by the fact that they do have a timeframe and process for your money to be released even if there is no delivery confirmation - if they said they get to hold on to it forever in that case and you're just out of luck, that would be a whole different matter.

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I think you will find a vast number of people leaving the site which bluntly speaking is becoming unusable and full of Scammers/KO and people being plain weird.  Interesting enough further down the article it does like other sites operate the same way which is unfair why would anyone not receive payment before positing item this has always been the way.  

 

I fail to see why they needed to change it what was the reason? the marketplace was already safe.  Is it more convenient to have a business account? was seriously considering it as an option but feared increased fees/taxation which is often too high.   

 

Also Royal Mail is superior to Evri so how can they recommend Evri? 

 

In my view during the last 10 years EBay directors have made nothing but mistakes, getting rid of PayPal, altering the "sell your item" section to become unusable and just too much advertising.

 

Will probably use it for purchases though as you can make some really good deals but not for selling maybe its too difficult to use and think they must know it by know. 

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This is why I will stop selling ( member since 2000 and selling since 2003);

 

Item of high value (just under £600) sold Sunday.

Posted Monday ( is special delivery Royal Mail) at 2pm.

Arrived with buyer at 9:20am Tuesday with tracking showing picture of delivery and signature.

Buyer left feedback Tuesday afternoon.

 

I withdrew my money Monday morning from eBay and into my bank account.

 

eBay record for sale shows ‘dispatched’ and eBay tracking shows still at my local post office.


So in the new world I would still not have my money as eBay will have it on hold.

 

Bye eBay it’s been great.



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My final lot of posting will be tonight and tomorrow night only 50+ items 7 days see what happens

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Good luck - I have just sold something after nearly 6 weeks of no sales... I have removed most of mine and sorting out some to list maybe for auction and see what happens ( or I may not)  as the whole " saga" of this has left me feeling disheartened with absolutely no trust in the platform.  

 

 

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That's what pushed me over my 'red line', last year there were three changes to private seller payouts, the last one has yet to be rolled out.

 

Free to Sell, but only if you pay fees to sell.  Otherwise it's still just Free to List which had already become Pay (sponsor) to Sell because these days unless you promote, you will sell only just enough to keep you dangling in hope.

 

For private sellers ebay is now a scam.  You won't sell much at all unless you pay.  The FVF on postage has gone but the buyer pays instead, or the seller soaks up the fee and reduces their price.  Either way ebay still gets its money.

 

Ebay has now made it quite clear to buyers that it regards ALL private sellers as potential crooks that buyers need protecting from.  

 

No way San Jose, I'm more honest than you are and I treat my customers far better than you have ever done.

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This situation has unfolded over the past few days, and it clearly shows how everything can fall apart after February 4th.

On December 31st, I fulfilled an order using the Global Shipping Program (GSP). I shipped the item the same day via Royal Mail 48-hour Tracked service. However, it wasn’t until January 16th that I received an email from the GSP hub stating that they had dispatched the item, presumably to the USA. They didn’t provide a new tracking number and instead referenced the tracking number I initially provided through Royal Mail.

On January 19th, three days later, the buyer opened a return request, stating that the item was a gift and was now too late to be of any use. In the meantime, my funds were placed on hold, even though the delay was not my fault.

I contacted an eBay agent to explain the situation and requested the release of my funds, as it was clearly not my responsibility. The agent told me I had to wait until the item was delivered and the buyer escalated the case, even though it was obvious that the buyer no longer wanted the item because it was too late.

I was extremely frustrated and explained that I shouldn’t be put in this position, especially as I always provide excellent service. This is reflected in my positive reviews and contributes to eBay's reputation, which depends on sellers like me. The agent assured me that a team from the USA would contact me within 24 hours, but no one reached out.

On January 20th, I received another order. Since my previous issue was still unresolved, I decided to cancel the order. Naturally, the refund amount was taken from my bank account, even though I have funds in my eBay balance, but those funds are on hold. It’s unacceptable.

I then put my shop on holiday mode and contacted another eBay agent. This agent also gave me excuses, saying I needed to wait at least 10 days for the order to arrive at its destination. However, it’s likely the item never left the GSP hub since no updated tracking number for the USA was ever provided.

After I expressed my frustration again, the agent asked me to provide proof of the email I received from the GSP hub to confirm the issue, even though the first agent I spoke to could see that email. Now I’m being told to wait another 24–48 hours for the case to be reviewed.

This situation highlights how unfair the new system is and how long eBay will hold onto your money, even if you’ve done everything right. I can’t understand why there isn’t a process to take responsibility and issue a refund to the buyer in exceptional cases like mine, where the seller is clearly not at fault. ObviouslyI will not issue a refund to the customer until I receive assurance that eBay will cover the cost. Most likely, I will end up closing my shop because it’s unacceptable to go through all this hassle just to earn peanuts.

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I haven't used global shipping for months but was always aware that any items not received via global shipping are NOT our problem. Its all taken care of by Ebay

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Please can you send your query to the ebay ceo

Jamie at ebay.com

 

His assistants will respond, I got a phone call the other week in reply to my email.

 

He needs to be aware of these things not just now but generally everyone should be emailing him with queries that are not being solved by lazy customer service reps.

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As a private seller I always use a tracked service of some sort but it’s not at all uncommon for the buyer to not be available for the delivery (despite being fully informed & given the tracking number) and then also not collect the item from their local sorting office for several days.

 

Firstly - I don’t see why I should wait for payment until the item is delivered as the buyer already has more than adequate protection from eBay.

 

Secondly - related to my initial point - why should my payment be delayed because a buyer wasn’t around to take delivery for perhaps several days?

 

The only response I can & will make to this is to avoid selling on eBay where possible & also to only offer the more expensive 24 hour tracked services rather than the 48 hour ones as an option. That may dissuade the odd buyer but that’s ok.

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Quite possibly  ebay will accept attempted delivery for payment release, the same way as they do for INR cases - time will tell.

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