Your funds will be available for payout once we receive delivery confirmation

[silverfoxx68]

Hi I've just received this message contacted ebay and is being sent to everyone 

That's me I'm done no more ebay for me bye bye

We are making changes to the way we process payments on eBay. Going forward, we’ll make your funds available for payout within 48 hours after we’ve confirmed delivery of the item. Until then, you’ll see a “hold” on your funds. This process helps keep our marketplace safe.

[steven5872]

I have been very much in two minds about leaving eBay.  It was certainly my first reaction.  I will likely leave my account open and take the vast majority of my listings down, possibly leaving a token handful of items up but not ones I expect to sell,  just to keep it active until the dust settles.  Then we will see - but I can't see my selling activity being as high as it has been (which is not that high, really, compared to some.)

[stripyzebras]

Ahh, so you can 'spend' the money that is held until confirmed delivery (or 14 days). Then it has absolutely nothing to do with giving additional  'buyer's protection'. The real issue for anyone with even a sprinkling of intelligence is that we know the introduction of buyer's fees is purely about profit for ebay (by getting interest from 'held' money and by encouraging people to use their funds to purchase from ebay). The "reasons" given by ebay for introducing buyer's fees are just plain dishonest and I think that's what really irks a lot of people here. 

[streetfighter-customs]

i sell garden petrol tool spares ("primer bulbs and carb kits")
so my stuff is very seasonal to the uk
so this time of the year im mainly selling overseas australia new zealand
ect
but because most of my listings are under £10 between ebay and royal mail
they have been slowly chomping away at my profits over the past 5 years
fees going up

i used to sell motorcycle parts big time shipped from the uk
but for the past 2 years
the chinese big guns have flooded the market and can supply direct from the
uk cheaper than i can buy the parts for
and they all ship from the uk (supposidly) but still takes over a week to
get here
and i still cannot find a postage policy that will let me ship from the uk
but 7-10 days for delivery strange that
i still think the EU have a lot of influence over ebay uk & ireland
and are still punishing the uk for leaving
and ebay is a way of trashing the uk economy
considering most of the money that us uk ebayers make gets spent in the uk
so by taking that away it is indirectly damaging the uk economy
("fair quote i think")

[lucy_farmer]

'The "reasons" given by ebay for introducing buyer's fees are just plain dishonest and I think that's what really irks a lot of people here. '

Yes.

'Spin'.     Business-bullsh**.      Ebay-speak.      Advertising exec. speak.    Banks being 'by your side', but they'll throw you under the bus without a thought if it looks good to the shareholders...

Companies learn how to state that Black is actually White (without being sued) in order to con as many poor fools as possible.

Yeah, I know I'm just 'old-woman-shouting-at-clouds' but, boy, there's some bits of the modern world that I hate....😠

[valueaddedresource]

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@theelench wrote:

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@1956glyn wrote:

"You should aim to send your item within 2 business days to ensure that buyers receive their order quickly and we're able to estimate the delivery date accurately. You can select a maximum handling time of 3 business days"

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Why are they even saying that??

They know damn well that most sellers have only increased their dispatch window to try to outwit ebays totally inaccurate delivery dates, but post earlier.  What's the point of having ANY maximum handling time when ebay take no notice of whatever the seller decides and STILL tells the buyer that their purchase will arrive Next Day or the day after whatever handling time the seller selects?

It's quite clear to me that although I have 2 day dispatch and RM 2nd Class postage, giving me and my buyers anything up to 5 working days for delivery,  which they are happy with and have left plenty of FB mentioning "Quick Delivery".  Ebay will ONLY be satisfied when it gets what it's wanted for years.

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@theelench that was the first thing I thought when I saw this announcement yesterday about Shipping Speed filters.

https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Announcements/Simplify-the-shopping-experience-and-support-your-sale...

If eBay is concerned that buyers are turned off by not seeing delivery timeframes that are fast enough for them, in many ways that's a self-inflicted problem as many sellers have added additional handling time to try to give themselves leeway to account for the fact that eBay's EDDs are so inaccurate.

Instead of playing games with search filters and mandates and the like, maybe they should start with address the very real long-standing problems with those inaccuracies.

[1956glyn]

Thats exactly why we extended it to 5 days to avoid defects for possible late delivery.

Our feedback often mentions how quickly the buyer has received their item 🙂  

[anne.craig]

I had not seen that announcement, thank you for flagging.  Good grief, they are really applying the whip in the hope us private sellers will row faster - shame so many are jumping ship.  It really does seem that while they may want private sellers on the site, they are expecting us to sell exactly as if we are businesses.  We aren't.  Private sellers fit post office (Evri now?) visits in between actual full time jobs, it's not feasible to assume we can visit daily to suit eBay - it's not even the buyers, they should see REAL delivery EDDs and choose accordingly.  Sometimes buyers message me to ask for quicker turnaround if they are in a hurry, I can usually accommodate them but would not want to make promises I could not keep just to get more visibility.  Ebay is messing around more than usual, I see glitches, lower sales, unhappy customers (both buyers and sellers) and senior staff golden handshakes on the horizon. 

[stripyzebras]

I see glitches, lower sales, unhappy customers (both buyers and sellers) and senior staff golden handshakes on the horizon. 

Not sure about the senior staff golden handshakes. I see ebay no long being the go-to place to sell and buy; the lower sales and unhappy private sellers may tip the balance. If enough jump ship, the ship may sink.

[sheffieldsvintage]

Someone once messaged me as he said he should have recd the item according to ebays expected delivery, I pointed out that I hadn't even posted it yet! And then had to explain to him about the stupid expected delivery dates that Ebay use and told him to ignore them in ffuture. Wasting my time again.....

[streetfighter-customs]

had to do that myself a few times
normally a newbie
who just dont have a clue
they normally leave bad feedback as well
i have now put in my preferences that i wont deal with anybody with less
than 5 feedback

[theelench]

I agree with everything you say, except about the directors handshakes.

They're already paid millions p.a and will without doubt have negotiated them in accordance with what they think they're worth, so it'll be Platinum Handshakes all round.  Then they'll scurry off to their next board-room job that their mates have lined-up for them so they can apply their vast experience of how to run things badly, squeezing their customers dry and reducing sales on a yearly basis.

[steven5872]

I think I'm right in saying that the last time I looked the earliest expected delivery time was the next working day after the sale - two days before my 'dispatch by' date!  I mentioned this during a telephone call with eBay - they pretty much dismissed my concern.  You are right, it is a total waste of time.  I am forever keeping track of my items now, counting how many are yet to be delivered and breathing a sigh of relief when they are.  It's too much stress, edging ever further toward quitting.

[streetfighter-customs]

ebay is ok if your a bg gun based in china get subsidised shipping from the
chinese government solely designed to sell eastern products to the west

meanwhile we the uk seller try our hardest to compete with the chinese big
guns who sell just pennies over what it costs on alibaba.com or
madeinchina.com
these are thye main chinese suppliers
look at the price the item is on ebay
then check out the cheapest prices on one of them two site
the differences is pennies
my question is how comes the chinese can sell for a few pence more than the
wholesale price and make a profit?
i always thought the idea was wholesale price + profit + fees + taxes =
total ?
seems to be wholesale price + fees + taxes = scraps

[papso22]

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@streetfighter-customs wrote:
had to do that myself a few times
normally a newbie
who just dont have a clue
they normally leave bad feedback as well
i have now put in my preferences that i wont deal with anybody with less
than 5 feedback

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That is not a valid ebay preference. 

[23sandlane]

It is - see "Buyer Preferences"

[papso22]

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@23sandlane wrote:
It is - see "Buyer Preferences"

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It has to be linked to multiple purchases, it is not a standalone setting.

I suggest you have a closer look.

[valueaddedresource]

@23sandlane  - @papso22 is correct, see how it is indented under the previous option? That means it is a subset of that option/only applies to that option, if that makes sense.

Since the option is to apply "this limit" to buyers with whatever feedback score chosen from the drop down menu - you have to ask yourself what "this limit" means there.

The indentation is what shows you "this limit" is referring to the part above it about blocking sales of multiple items to a single buyer.

There is no way to block a zero feedback buyer from buying a single item.

[millcottage]

Sold an item for over £580 on Sunday.

Posted Monday via special delivery for prior to 1pm next day delivery.

Arrived  with buyer prior to 10am next day.

Tracking shows signed for and picture of item being handed over.

ebay sold record shows as still in transit - dispatched.

So under new rules I would still be waiting to get my  money from eBay!

This is why I plan to give up selling when new rules start.

[papso22]

For an item of that value I believe it would be worth contacting ebay cs to update their tracking.

[millcottage]

Why?

I have money for sale in my bank account.

I have Royal Mail tracking showing signed for plus picture.

Buyer has left positive feedback saying item is perfect.

Under new system I would be chasing my money via eBay CS.

I have no plans to be in that position and after 21 years I will give up selling.