Simple delivery - when will ebay back down and reverse this stupidity?

[*maetrix*]

Anyone willing to take a guess?

I'm going for September 1st.....(2025).

[random_code]

I'm going to say that they won't back down, unfortunately. They'll just refine it - eg, offering postage weights between 2kg and 15kg, printerless package pickups, etc.

[chris.n7]

They wont, they are making profit from it as they get the labels at a discounted rate from RM/Evri. They charge you/buyer the full rate whilst paying pennies to the courier.

[sml192]

Yes, they definitely won't remove it now that they have agreed large contracts with Royal Mail and Evri, just continue to refine it or tinker with it.

They have confirmed in today's update that they are working on a printerless collection option. 

The missing weight band is clearly a glitch so should get resolved soon. 

[akemp1]

Unfortunately I expect they have already made a pretty huge spend commitment to Evri in order to secure the lowest prices to maximise their profit margins maybe 75% of all ebay postage for a few years or something similar.

It's probably so hard encoded into their business plans now they will feel the need to plod on regardless of the distress it causes.

Realistically I can only see it stopping now if an authority such as the CMA steps in and tells them the mandatory bundling of their overpriced postage is harmful and against competition law why is why I urge everyone to file a report to encourage the CMA to investigate.

[department28]

Yes, unfortunately, I think they will just carry on tweaking & fiddling around with it, no doubt causing even more confusion & exasperation...!

It's a pity they couldn't be satisfied with running both options. Surely they would do more than well enough from those who are already using, or are willing to start using Simple Delivery? New/younger sellers would probably accept it without question, and over time, many more would drift onto it, rather than keep having to 'switch back to custom postage'.

Forcing it on everyone, removing free choice, and disregarding all the different circumstances that make this Simple Delivery system very difficult/impossible for some, seems a very ill-considered move...

[wintersdawn1]

I don't think they're greed would allow both sd and custom/advanced options and it is because of their greed they needed to create a convoluted, confusing mess.  

It doesn't make sense to make the decisions they have done - BPF, delayed pay outs, simple delivery - unless greed is the motivation.

I tried to roll with it with BPF (so ebay could just pocket the fee) and delayed pay outs (so they could earn interest/invest) but taking control of postage with simple delivery is going to be hard to accept, especially when the reason it exists is so that ebay can make money on every postage label that they force the buyer/seller to purchase from them.

[edwardian-dreams]

Yes until they return all options stupid people 

[messier44000]

As long as its working as intended they will not revert back.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

would agree but i also think it depends on exactly how much they will lose refunding on missing/damaged items.  Going on how many people seem to have had over the years i think they will find it quite an expensive proposition, of course they will try to get out of refunding whereever they can!

[kath3735_wxmjn]

neither of those are a problem for me, i have a printer and my stuff is all under the 2kg band anyway but i will still not be using SD.

[*maetrix*]

"As long as it's working as intended"

lol.

[morseidiot2]

Its only going to change if the share price plummets and the shareholders get really stroppy about it.

[birsayboy7]

They won't make any profit if no-one is selling (or buying)!

[andha-21]

I'm almost certain they won't turn back based off userbase pressure.

But if they've stepped over any laws and sovereign regulating legal authorities tell them to stop, they won't have much of a choice.

Why I've been saying Trading Standards regarding BPF from the start.

The recent CMA Simple Delivery angle is another worth exploring too.

The fact is we simply don't have the power to make them stop. So this has to come from someone that does.

[abbotstamps]

I have already reported this to the CMA. Any individual can make a complaint and I suggest that is what everyone does. This is a precis of their response to me. 

"Thank you for your recent correspondence about ebay UK.  

We value people contacting us with information. This helps us to tackle anti-competitive behaviour and protect people and businesses from being disadvantaged by unfair practices.   ... Our Intelligence Team will now analyse your enquiry using our published prioritisation principles.  We prioritise the cases that are most likely to make a real difference for people and the UK economy based on our available resources and the likelihood of a successful outcome."  To me it is definitely unfair practice to impose this for all items. Also their policy does not include any allowance for the seller to charge for packaging.

[edwardian-dreams]

Lot of / too much egg on face to clear off would need a massive interjection of doublespeak from the ones that do it good luck eBay lolol

[elabam-42]

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@*maetrix* wrote:

Anyone willing to take a guess?

I'm going for September 1st.....(2025).

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Well, this is weird as I’ve just gone on the app to check out the postage nonsense, and all the postal (custom) services are back!!
I removed all my items in principle of this absolute scam a couple of weeks ago, but have they given up on the stupidest idea ever and listened to us or is it a glitch in their “eBay way” system?

[elabam-42]

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@abbotstamps wrote:

I have already reported this to the CMA. Any individual can make a complaint and I suggest that is what everyone does. This is a precis of their response to me. 

"Thank you for your recent correspondence about ebay UK.  

We value people contacting us with information. This helps us to tackle anti-competitive behaviour and protect people and businesses from being disadvantaged by unfair practices.   ... Our Intelligence Team will now analyse your enquiry using our published prioritisation principles.  We prioritise the cases that are most likely to make a real difference for people and the UK economy based on our available resources and the likelihood of a successful outcome."  To me it is definitely unfair practice to impose this for all items. Also their policy does not include any allowance for the seller to charge for packaging.

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I wrote to the CMA last week but didn’t get any response at all. On other threads I have been encouraging others to fill in the easy online form to CMA and delete all their listings/leave. As per my post above though, tonight I looked at the app and all postal methods are back!!
Is this a permanent thing and have they backed down, or is another glitch from their thieving, ill managed overpaid robots?

[jma2815]

I filled in the CMA form a few days ago and got the same response as @abbotstamps this morning. 

In answer to the OP question I’m going to go for ‘never’. There’ll be tweaks but sellers will never be able to buy their own postage again. ‘Buyer selected’ (for some reason that phrase makes me angry) postage is here to stay.