Offers, and confusion on pricing due to BPF

[deanem72]

Hi Guys

Anyone else noticed that when you receive an offer on an item it includes the BPF already?  Yet when you send an offer it doesnt

I have just received an offer on an item which I accepted not realising this and have now sold an item for half its value.

I understand my mistake and will eat the difference due to my own incompetence, but wonder if this is all part of ebays plan to rid the site of casual sellers like myself.  Surely a company the size of ebay should be able to show the actual price the buyer wants to buy without including BPF in the message they send you, when you receive an offer

Example -  Item listed @ £2.50

Offer received - £2.00

Happy with that as it is a 20% discount and would be ok with it, but with BPF  I get 

Item listed  @ £2.50 plus £0.82 BPF  Total £3.32

Offer received £2.00 

Ok so far, but when accepting the offer the BPF is taken away leaving £1.23 for an item originally listed @ £2.50.

Email sent to me by ebay, shows that I have a new offer for £2.00 on the item, not £1.23 which is what I ended up with.

Rant Over

[*vyolla*]

An understandable rant, I feel.

If sellers accept an offer it appears that they are, in fact, paying the buyer protection fee.

I hope that eBay will be looking at this issue.

[deanem72]

I'm sure they will, in the same way I am sure that pigs are flying  🙂

[crn303]

Really … hope on

[sml192]

Does the email only show the BPF inclusive amount, i.e. £2,00, and not the amount excluding BPF?

Ebay really needs to change the notification so that it either only shows the amount excluding the BPF or shows both amounts but makes it clear which amount the seller will receive. 

[edwardian-dreams]

It inconsistent

if you’re a seller making an offer it’s diff to if you’re a buyer 

Pooh 

on vinted you ask for say 5 £ for an item

your item is advertised as £5 but on the next page if it’s clicked it shows the total amount incl bpf

so far  clear

when you make an offer or get an offer it’s ALWAYS on the asking price an bpf is always extra

here, it’s been done in such a way as to confuse people unless they read the the  help pages etc which most don’t before buying or selling 

some things should be left simple 

[dancewithadingo]

Good Evening Dean

I sympathise with you as I was also caught out this week. Accepted an offer for £50.00 on an item and then low and behold  I received just over £47.00 from eBay.  

A sneaky way to operate. I have learnt my lesson and will not be caught out again.

[department28]

eBay are always going on about 'simplifying your experience' etc, then they introduce things like the BPF, which is causing all sorts of headache-inducing confusion...🤕

I think most private sellers would much rather have reverted to selling fees, than have to deal with this messy situation.

[parsley2003]

And clear to buyers. I stopped all best offers only give offers now

[edwardian-dreams]

EBay still think they are a monopoly 

rude awakenings methinks 

[department28]

Yes.  And trying to copy what other sites are doing will likely end up pleasing no-one. People liked eBay how it was, not what it is turning into.

I suppose it will all seem fine to fresh new sellers, who don't know any different... eBay probably just wants rid of us grumbly old timers... 👴👵

[ledzeppelinpics]

I realise I'm dragging up an older topic, but I'm an infrequent user.

The problem isn't that ebay have started BPF, its the inconsistent implementation that's starting to annoy. On the bids pages of items, as a buyer and a seller, it is overly complicated and confusing. The mix of included BPF and excluded BPF throughout the site seems like it was pushed out far too quickly without enough thought of the impact to users.

You want to see what people were bidding, it shows it sans BPF, but wherever you make a bid, it's included. 

As a seller, you want to list your item competitively, yet you list it, and then it adds the BPF, making your competitive price, much less competitive.

We had a few golden months - no seller fees, no buyer fees, lots of transactions that were clear and consistent - i'll forever cherish those few months of clarity - i doubt we'll see their like again.

[department28]

'You want to see what people were bidding, it shows it sans BPF, but wherever you make a bid, it's included.' 

Yes. Bidding can be rather nerve-wracking at the best of times, but in the last few minutes, trying to decide on a bid whilst having to take the BPF into account at the same time, makes it all very confusing. 

Then the bid history shows the prices without the BPF, so if you want to know what something actually sold for, you have to do some sums... 

eBay seems to be going out of their way to make things more complicated.

[9150simon]

Yes I started reading this thread as it rang a bell with my experience over the weekend.  I haven't bid on anything in probably a year or so, just bought buy it now items.  But thought I would bid on a few tops I had my eye on - what a nightmare!!!  

I'm afraid I am an old time sniper and used to love the excitement of getting in during the last few seconds and securing my purchase more often than not, so yesterday I watched the countdown, decided what I wanted to pay and sneaked my bid in within the last few seconds putting what I thought was an easy winning bid and Boom! I lost out, and when looking back at the bids they are so confusing with some areas having the BPF added and some not - I didn't know whether I was coming or going. 

What a mess ebay!!