NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[department28]

It would be a real shame to see eBay go down that path. 'Luxury goods'... ugh. Mostly overpriced rubbish, purchased by dimwits.

@moonlight-rhapsody  'It would have been cleverer not to have thrown the baby out with the bath water, and to have found a way of attracting new blood without causing a firestorm amongst its existing customers.'

Yes - unfortunately eBay is probably only really interested in the new blood... no country for old eBayers... 👴👵

[stamp_hammer]

eBay are actually extracting less in fees from the majority of my sales than they did prior to October 1st 2024.

They're also taking less than Paypal, Vinted & Delcampe.

It's not all doom and gloom.

[theelench]

But did you object to the fees you would have paid before SD because you thought them too high?

The "Deal" ebay offers isn't always just about how much money is made on a sale.

One of the attractions of the old ebay (even when I joined in 2013) was that I was free to sell my stuff in my own way, mostly free from any interference from ebays "guiding hand".  Increasingly ebay makes it difficult for anyone who doesn't comply with ebay's tightening mould of what it decides is acceptable.  Work or family commitments, sickness or disability  --  ebay doesn't want sellers who don't or can't toe its line.  If you're not willing to commit 24/7 to 'the ebay way'  here's a big blue button marked "Close my account".

Now, at every step from selecting which category and sub-category I use, through the item's attributes, the description, the delivery company and service I use and when the buyer should get the item, ebay is there.  Suggesting categories (going against them increasingly difficult because ebay won't show me the choice I want to use without difficulty and deceit).  Limiting my choice of IS by not having the ones I should to use on it's interminable lists.  Offering A.I generated descriptions if I want to accept nonsense.  Demanding I use a limited selection of carriers (which ebay can override) and how much my buyer will pay for the the service ebay insists I use.  When the purchase must arrive and if it doesn't (despite ebay having told me which carrier and service to use) , awarding ME a defect.

I'm sure that sellers on the ebay of the future will be shown the "Tell us what you're selling" box to fill in when selling an item.  Another box for "Price" (with 'suggestions' of what ebay thinks appropriate) and ebay will fill out the rest of the listing form for them.  Complete with what it decides is the appropriate level of Sponsorship, what Offers would be acceptable and which buyers should be sent even lower offers to get a quick sale.  (That paragraph is sarcasm for those that don't recognise it)

This isn't what I signed up for.  I want to be able to sell my stuff my way using my brains, ingenuity and having the freedom to do the deals I chose with my buyers.  Selling by ebays play-list doesn't interest me and as ebay has taken over more of every transaction, my sales have declined.

[1956glyn]

as the old saying goes.....you get what you pay for.    

Fake goods on Ebay is a huge issue though

[kath3735_wxmjn]

It is those famous words 'if done properly' that says it all!   I am not one that is over fussed about whether i can save a few pennies on postage (i have just chosen to pay a little extra for RM than Yodel on another site even though i have not had any real problems with Yodel unlike EVRI).  What i do object to on this site is that if you preclude EVRI and just opt for RM it costs more in addition to the higher postage itself.  Apart from the fact that e bay will be making a good wodge from EVRI from doing it  what benefit is it to the buyer or seller?     I do not do click and collect, i want delivery to my home, something that EVRI local courier does not comply with so therefore i will never sell using them or buy from anyone only using them.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

Only thing i do not agree with you on is that people just come on here 'to see if the platform implodes'.  I come on here because i want to be around if they do decide to change things into a better system, otherwise i would not bother at all.  If it implodes that will benefit no one, if it effects some good changes then some of us might return (although i am doing much better so far on the other site)

[technthread]

I agree it does not sit well that the price increases here if the seller doesn’t have all postage options turned on. 

The bigger picture for me is I have paid £2.85 plus VAT for a medium parcel, it gives me a lot more scope to use the item for what I need it for and then I can still make a small profit on it when I sell it on. I’m only talking about £10 profit here -  but that’s a lot better than 2019/20 when the postage choice on these type of medium parcels tended to be RM for about £13 and I’d be breaking even. 

[kath3735_wxmjn]

well with SD on top of the other major changes (which i could have put up with even if i did not like them) they lost this 'piece of deadwood' both as a buyer or seller.  Not that i am particularly against buying on here (as long as it is RM not EVRI) but i spend most of my time on the other site where i have had really good sales and actually got decent prices for them.  E bays loss is the other sites gain!

[moonlight-rhapsody]

"I come on here because i want to be around if they do decide to change things into a better system"

Same here, I've got loads of stuff to part with, and currently some of it is going to auction houses, some to charity shops and some to antique shops, but in the meantime, I want to keep up with what ebay is doing in case it becomes viable for me to use the ebay platform again.  So far I haven't yet sold on that other platform which is now advertising its new categories, but I'm getting increasingly interested.  The quantity of listings now featuring in relevant-to-me categories is very encouraging.

[marla_3725]

Amen to that! 

[department28]

'This isn't what I signed up for.  I want to be able to sell my stuff my way using my brains, ingenuity and having the freedom to do the deals I chose with my buyers.'

This is why the way eBay is heading will be no place for those of us that appreciated being left alone to list in peace, making most of the decisions for ourselves.

Maybe eBay are right to assume the new generation of eBayers will want their handy-pandies held, from listing to posting, requiring the minimum of effort or creativity? 👶 People do seem to have less patience/shorter attention spans these days.

Unfortunately, the more automated eBay becomes, the worse it will get. Those of us trying to hang on to 'the old eBay' will soon have the rest of our fingers prised off, I fear...!

[lillylangtry]

I have just ending all my listings after 25 Years sick of it. Giving my stuff away to anybody in need or to charity 

[1956glyn]

I honestly think that many many sellers are just giving up trying to sell their items even in popular categories eg jewellery.     IF i cannot even sell a real pair of genuine 9ct gold earrings cheap then what is the point? 

Its also bad/actually dire for Ebay when i spend an hour and cannot find anything to buy 😞

[stamp_hammer]

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@theelench wrote:

But did you object to the fees you would have paid before SD because you thought them too high?

The "Deal" ebay offers isn't always just about how much money is made on a sale.

 I can't speak for you, but for me it's all about the money.  On the majority of sales I'm making more than I did before BPF.  Positive. Also the number of sales I'm making are starting to come back to pre-October 2024 numbers. Positive.

I'm 93 years old, I haven't got time to sit around complaining about a business I've got no control over.

[theelench]

That's fair enough, in your position I'd probably be saying the same.

But others, not in your position can have a different point of view.

[gjalp]

You hit the nail on the head there. We, as ebay users, have no control over what ebay do or don’t do. If you dislike changes and/or they affect you to your detriment then your best play is to give feedback and ensure you are set up to receive surveys from ebay. I frequently get satisfaction surveys on all my IDs (mix of private and business) and I tell them what Im not happy about ensuring I give as much detail and examples as possible. I did this when the BPF first came in and showed examples where the BPF was detrimental to 99p ‘priced to clear’ items whereby it almost doubled the price. I did the same when mandatory SD came in and explained again if you have a 99p item, don’t mind if it sells for 99p, has to be sent SD and how it then makes that item not viable as most of the money a buyer is paying is going to ebay. A simple stamp at a much reduced cost would be more suitable especially when a 99p item doesn’t really need a tracked service. If it doesn’t turn up, I just refund.

We then had a change in the BPF and then SD for (some) light small items. Others must have said the same and/or it hit ebays revenue for the change to be brought in. I contribute to this thread as I don’t like mandatory SD but I am under no illusions that a big thread will change any of  ebay’s decisions. Meanwhile Ive just turfed out some bigger items to sell and knowing I will definitely have SD enforced on them, all I have done is double checked I have removed evri from my preferences.

[blacksea213]

As a seller I have always been ok with the sellers fees. Even when you paid
a listing fee and a final sales fee. Occasionally EBay would run a
promotion for free listing or list for £1 etc. Buyers didn’t have to pay
anything. Millions of sellers were happy with this. But they got to choose
how the item(s) got to the buyer. Whether posted, delivered, collected etc.
Buyers premium has definitely put people off whether buying or selling.

[gmij1961]

Where ever you choose to sell boot sale , craft fair  or auction house there is always a fee involved and the seller is happy to pay that fee if it helps get a good price and is a safe place to sell.

Rather can come up with a Free to sell gimmick and charge those fees elsewhere on the transaction , Ebay really should have promoted what good value their seller fees actually were . Before Free to Sell I was selling mainly every 2 weeks when Ebay gave me 80% of standard selling fees of 10%  , I.E a  selling fee of 2%  . There was no listing fee regardless of starting bid and I didn't have to pay Paypal transaction fees at 4% anymore .  Ebay created a lot of their own issues by constantly giving things away . Even with this bizarre set-up I was still paying Ebay £500 a year in selling fees. Since then I paid nothing in selling fees until I stopped selling and probably no more in £10 in the BPF items I have bought since

However now for any expensive items from my collection I will sell in the future I would rather but them through an specialised auction house that will charge me 15% as I will get a price and it is safer to sell as I there is minimal risk of being shafted by the auction house and their dysfunctional system

Rather than pandering to want people think they want , which more often something its more a case of giving people what they need , I.E  a good safe place to sell  for a reasonable price  . 

[dougbat20]

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@gjalp wrote:

You hit the nail on the head there. We, as ebay users, have no control over what ebay do or don’t do. If you dislike changes and/or they affect you to your detriment then your best play is to give feedback and ensure you are set up to receive surveys from ebay. I frequently get satisfaction surveys on all my IDs (mix of private and business) and I tell them what Im not happy about ensuring I give as much detail and examples as possible. I did this when the BPF first came in and showed examples where the BPF was detrimental to 99p ‘priced to clear’ items whereby it almost doubled the price. I did the same when mandatory SD came in and explained again if you have a 99p item, don’t mind if it sells for 99p, has to be sent SD and how it then makes that item not viable as most of the money a buyer is paying is going to ebay. A simple stamp at a much reduced cost would be more suitable especially when a 99p item doesn’t really need a tracked service. If it doesn’t turn up, I just refund.

We then had a change in the BPF and then SD for (some) light small items. Others must have said the same and/or it hit ebays revenue for the change to be brought in. I contribute to this thread as I don’t like mandatory SD but I am under no illusions that a big thread will change any of  ebay’s decisions. Meanwhile Ive just turfed out some bigger items to sell and knowing I will definitely have SD enforced on them, all I have done is double checked I have removed evri from my preferences.

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That's all well and good until eBay force an Evri label onto you anyways, regardless of your preferences. They can do this from time to time.

You should have it so that seller pays the shipping, that way you can just use the SD Label to get the address, send the item off via your own method (uploading tracking), then get the SD refunded.

[wiganyankeeron]

I HAVE JUST SOLD A BOOK THE BUYER HAS PAID FOR THE SHIPPING LABEL I'VE JUST TAKEN IT TO THE POST OFFICE AND THE GUY BEHIND THE COUNTER SAID  THE LABEL IS ONLY FOR "LARGE LETTER" AND THE PACKET WEIGHS OVER THE MAX FOR LARGE LETTER  AND SO I NEED TO SEND IT AS A SMALL PARCEL??? I THOUGHT EBAY SAY EVEN IF THE POSTAGE IS WRONG THAT POST OFFICE WILL ACCEPT IT?? WHATS THE NEXT STEP???