NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[edwardian-dreams]

If your item weighed kilos eBay ‘s recommended weight wouldn’t be a letter with 87p

so if you list say a pair of shoes it will come up as 1 or 2 kgs

a cushion 1kg etc etc 

But if it was hypothetically speaking, yes , your overweight parcel would be accepted because you clicked on recommended weight 

anyway eBay don’t do labels for letters for 87p,that will be in custom postage (said letter labels not working for days either) …SD is only for tracked items 

eta eBay do underestimate postage for several kinds of items but not by that much 

[honeymonster007]

Spitfire  test pilot story looks interesting, do you get many military books or just selling off old stock.

Noticed you mention combined shipping as well, might be worth looking into that as people are having probs with it at the min with SD

[jma2815]

Nobody was insulting you. 

Automated feedback isn’t something you can choose to use, like AI description. It is put there by ebay about a week after your sale if the buyer doesn’t leave feedback first. It says something bland like ‘this seller has successfully completed a sale’. The buyer can still leave feedback after that as normal. 

I’ve had it a few times, its just a green dot, its nothing. 

[papso22]

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@lamulady2 wrote:
Thank you....but crikey...if it says Lamulady on the address bit does that mean that they are personally tagged but sent to EVERYBODY? (wih their own name on?) I have had some replies which were comments on what I THOUGHT I had followed up.  Groan.  Now I am REALLY flummoxed...do my small comments get sent to EVERYONE................

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Your posts (and mine), will be notified by ebay email to anyone who has asked to be notified when someone responds to a thread.  

Many posters think that these automatic emails signify a degree of support for their posts and views,  but they don't.

The boards can be confusing places!

[wiganyankeeron]

anyway eBay don’t do labels for letters for 87p,that will be in custom postage (said letter labels not working for days either) …SD is only for tracked items 

What if I had stuck this on?????

[closetothedee]

I have no idea what my local post office is doing now because I haven’t had the need to go in for over a fortnight.
What I do know is that I’ve never seen a parcel accepted there without it being placed on the scale first - even my parcels for which I bought postage on line had to be weighed so they could check I’d paid the right amount.
I do know from when I was last there that they had been instructed to accept all eBay parcels and that any problems with size and weight would be sorted elsewhere. Whether they are actually doing thisI have no idea


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[sml192]

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@wiganyankeeron wrote:

What if I had stuck this on?????

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Royal Mail 2nd Class is custom postage not Simple Delivery so you would be responsible for any undercharge. 

[gmij1961]

I saw it here  but as this post is not just about SD then there is not neccessarily a direct link to automated feedback 

https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Announcements/Updates-on-Simple-Delivery-automated-positive-feedback...

However I would guess that it is probably part of the series of changes that involves the deployment of SD . I.E automated feedback can't be launched unless SD is made mandatory for private sellers  , as they are all wrapped up together 

In terms on managing changes you would not expect unrelated changes to be happening at the same time unless they have too 

I really haven't looked that closely but the ones I have seen seem to be after the 15th  April , the day SD was  being rolled out as mandatory .  From what I gleaned SD rollout is dictated by item category  so you could find auto-mated feedback follows the same path 

This however be important to this post as reversing the SD change may be practically very difficult !

[sml192]

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@gmij1961 wrote:

However I would guess that it is probably part of the series of changes that involves the deployment of SD . I.E automated feedback can't be launched unless SD is made mandatory for private sellers  , as they are all wrapped up together. 

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Automated feedback applies to business sellers as well as private sellers so has absolutely nothing to do with Simple Delivery. 

[gmij1961]

I very much think the Post Office's are still playing catch up with the implications of SD to their business

Its not that long ago that Sub PO's would turn away RM24/48 as it is a service they could not sell and under cut the  RM products they could could sell.  And even though they can sell it now they are undercut by on-line  prices 

Although Ebay SD is supposed to  to be equivalent of RM24/48 it is not the same service , it is custom offering for Ebay and that may not be the in the agreement they have with RM to accept parcels .  As it will only be the outsized parcels that accentuate this issue it will take a while before it apparent  

As  a buyer  a fair proportion of what I buy was coming through via RM with hand written labels purchased at the PO and the PO's are now being excluded from Ebay business but expected to look after Ebay parcels regardless , its inevitable that sub PO's are going to get the hump 

However in  a year or so RM might not even be part of the picture and as the Ebay delivery set-up evolves.

[crn303]

DO YOU NOT CONSIDER YOURSELF AS A DISRUPTER !!!!!

Why are continuing to bring up the subject of Post Office outlets turning away SD items in your reply to me ?

You state eBays changes will be working well in the next 12 months.

LETS DEAL IN FACT, NOT SOOTHSAYING.

[crn303]

NOT ANOTHER POSTING FROM YOU REFERENCE POST OFFICE OUTLETS.

BORING !!!!

[lucy_farmer]

'However in  a year or so RM might not even be part of the picture and as the Ebay delivery set-up evolves.'

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Do you think Evri will start expanding into the 'highlands and islands' etc. areas? Would there be enough business there for them to consider it?

(If RM didn't *have* to deliver/collect from the remoter parts of the UK, then I'm pretty sure R.M. wouldn't either...)

If evri don't want to deal with that, then RM *have* to be in on the picture.

Ebay would have to put a very large investment into evri to make the 'remote postcodes' a viable proposition; not just one van a week on the Cal-Mac ferries! or ebay would be a laughing-stock compared with all the other online sites who would use RM....

[gmij1961]

As I said , I would be very surprised if there isn't  some kind of relationship .

"However I would guess that it is probably part of the series of changes that involves the deployment of SD . I.E automated feedback can't be launched unless SD is made mandatory for private sellers  , as they are all wrapped up together 

In terms on managing changes you would not expect unrelated changes to be happening at the same time unless they have too "

If its part of the same underlying code then there is relationship , and I would say  launching auto-feedback  is probably the reason SD is no longer optional starting from 15th April .

For auto-mated feedback to work it is actually dependent on the the same logic for delayed payment , Ebay have to be able to track delivery  and I would guess the change that happened on the 15th consolidates all of this  I suspect that delayed payment was only half working up to this point and will only work properly when this change is fully rolled out whenever that maybe.  So for private sellers it could be the only way of ensuring delivery is  actually tracked  and auto-FB  to work is to get them  all to use SD .  

I am not quite sure what directives business sellers have but I always seemed to get a tracked label with business sellers 

A a private seller I have  been using RM48 with printed labels for the last year so my items were always tracked on delivery , so if Ebay could always track my delivery but as this post indicates there are lots of sellers out there that still use hand written labels and go to the post office etc and that won't work under the new set-up and perhaps that what SD is really about now.

[gmij1961]

I think that maybe Ebay's vision . It might not be the likes of  Evri that deliver to remote locations and just use another 3rd party , but I think it will be done under an Ebay umbrella and that will involve a part ownership of an established courier I.E Evri . I might not be correct but it makes sense if this part of a long term business strategy if SD is supposed to earn Ebay money. If it makes sense then there is a fair chance I maybe right 🙂

My thought process is to try and look behind what Ebay are trying to achieve as an end goal , especially  SD made so little sense to most , probably all of us

As to another  other post I think the forced SD rollout is needed to make other changes work properly .

BPF has to be in place to for SD to conform to consumer laws as Ebay sell the the buyer postage and the buyer then has a "contract" with Ebay and not the seller 

I  do think Ebay could have done this very differently 

[jreg-fuchsias]

Simple Delivery is being introduced to raise revenue for ebay  - no other reason.

Business seller fees are generally between 10-13% +VAT depending on category.

Ebays BPF is 4% + fixed fee, so they want a cut of the delivery as well so they can get closer to the same level of fees per transaction.

[gmij1961]

Yes but RM could be a sub contractor  in the deal in terms of delivery and collection from remote locations .

Its a bit like Amz most of their stuff will come from their standard delivery some bloke in a van will turn up about 16:00  , but occasionally I get RM deliver but its still managed by AMZ  the only time I know it is  Royal Mail when my postman hands me the parcel . 

I have a hunch Ebay will want to invest money in a courier and expand what it does  but for most of the UK if Evri can handle delivery, drop off  and collection and its down to Ebay when things go wrong,  then Ebay  have most bases covered . It then just a case of handling the exceptions and remote locations 

Not being on the inside of Ebay I could be mis-reading this but although I am retired now , I specialised in fixing complex technical problems and very often it is case of thinking through what is apparent to make sense  . 

[edwardian-dreams]

If they’re getting cheaper rates off RM in their contract then I guess so

for me I pay the same sending RM tracked 48 with simple delivery  

granted there’s no packaging costs allowed 

So Simple delivery isn’t costing me anymore ..I recycle a lot of  packaging mainly 

I think it’s horrible that SD is being pushed 

When it can cost more ie 

- by making it peculiarly unclear how to list with your own postage 

what the heck is advanced options supposed to mean….why not say click for custom postage 

 - or disabling that option for some and not others 

- or not fixing problems with that option (you can’t list a 1st or 2nd class letter at the moment)

[lamulady2]

I haven't STARTED to look at any of my back items on which I actually put the weight. I was so shocked at the end of last week I have hardly done ANY work on the site. I dread to think what I will find. I just cannot work out that they are actually GUESSING the weight. This business. of......"or whatever the customer chooses" What the blazes is THAT?

[gmij1961]

I think that is eventual aim of SD or Ebay delivery  to get a significant cut of all packages Ebay process but they are  not going to making any significant revenue from SD at present  although they probably make more per label they sell than before . 

As  things stand I really think Ebay are using SD as part of other changes , which is why it is so messy and why 15th April was a key date .

I think Ebay had allowed there private seller revenue to become a mess if that is what business sellers are paying  .  Business sellers do get a higher level of service but not sure its worth that extra cost  although it is probably needed once you get to those volumes of sales.

BPF does not really protect the buyer  , but with SD if you now consider Ebay as the buyer it does give them some degree protection and a replacement for seller fees .

There were other ways of doing this which could have avoided this mess .  I would say some of this is greed but  a lot of this down to lack of thought and appalling application