Ebay's new Buyers' protection fee from the 4th Feb

I'm a private seller. Items I sell are between £2.90 - £10. Is It just me or will ebay's new Buyers' protection fee from the 4th Feb make it near impossible to sell competitively. A few months ago Ebay got rid of Sellers' fees for private sellers, which was a welcome move. But this new change and getting rid of multi-buy discount for private sellers will make it worse than it was with the original fees.

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Businesses still pay listing fees, so costs are probably not that much different.

Private sellers are people selling odds and ends they don't want anymore. If you are selling multiple items, and want multi buy discounts, you should be a business seller... you'd certainly be treated as one in any dispute.... or by HMRC for tax and VAT purposes.

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My view on all of this ,is that as a private myself the new buyer protection fee and everything else shouldn't or won't really make much of a difference to me .... will it?.

I wasn't too bothered last year when Ebay announced that they were going to stop releasing payments immediately into my bank account and instead i'd have manually claim it or they would auto pay it every 3 months,i  simply let them hold onto it and then they auto paid it to me, in effect , nothing changed for me, i'm selling my redundant posessions and its not like i need the funds for business cash flow purposes.

 

I would have preferred Ebay to have levied the new buyer protection fee onto me and i could have easily adapted my listings to take care of this without impacting the buyer experience, after all i had already become accustomed to paying seller fees until the end of last year. as for as the original poster telling us that it prevents them from selling competitively then my thoughts are as follows. This fee will apply to all private sellers and this creates a level playing field in this respect and thus no private seller is at any disadvantage to any other. Now ..... whether your items eventually sell will be determined by a number of factors and d'you understand that price is not always the over riding one , in fact i have many buyers express the view via messages post sale that they are avoiding the big business sellers (in the category that i am selling in) as they do not offer adequate quality and packaging when shipping , so they instead buy from me.

 

Mentioning the removal of multi item listings for private sellers is interesting as seldom does a private seller hold enough items to ever really need this facility, and i would argue that perhaps that this is more suited to being a business seller tool?

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"If you are selling multiple items, and want multi buy discounts, you should be a business seller"

 

Not true, you could have a collection of old coins or postcards or toy cars or old BBC wildlife magazines. Lots of things that are collectables are items that are broadly similar. Hence 'collectable'.

 

Have not used multi-buy selling myself, but if it makes sense to a seller and their buyers there's no good reason for taking it away. I keep saying Ebay should be ENCOURAGING sales instead of what it's presently doing.

 

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with selling your own personal stuff as far as HMRC is concerned.

 

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yes, you are correct and i agree with you however my post read as .... "Mentioning the removal of multi item listings for private sellers is interesting as seldom does a private seller hold enough items to ever really need this facility, and i would argue that perhaps that this is more suited to being a business seller tool?" .... you may note the use of a question mark at the end ,but to me the removal of this tool should not be a deal breaker for those selling privately?

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I'm not sure that's the case, we've been using eBay for years (this is new account due to spat with them) and worked on the basis of saving stuff up and having an eBay blitz now and again (reducing trips to the PO ) to clear out. A lot of items were related (e.g. spare model railway components) and often sold to the same buyer.

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I'm getting so confused with this BPF. My listings are not showing any added fees. Is it because they are all re-listed items and not new ones? I haven't created any new listings since all this fiasco started. 

I also can't see the option anywhere to do Simply Delivery or indeed opt out (which will be my preference). I don't have a choice of any other courier other than RM as I am in a rural location. Anything else will add massively to my costs and make selling not worthwhile.

Am I missing something???

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Do you genuinely not see a problem with eBay holding on to private sellers’ funds for prolonged periods of time? 
the current suggestion is two weeks with SD. 

imagine how much money they’ll be holding, and therefore making, at the expense of those private sellers. 
why should they?! 
we will be obligated to use the eBay postal system and are being told that they are assuming liability, hence the BPF, so the funds should be released immediately upon dispatch. The seller will have no liability for lost or damaged items at that point so there is no reason for eBay to keep a sellers funds, other than to accrue interest for themselves. 
refunds for returns will work exactly as they do now. 
you may be ok with not having access to your own money immediately but I’m not. Once the goods are sold and sent, it’s mine. Not eBay’s. 

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It depends what you’re selling. As far as I’m aware, it’s not being applied to every category yet. 

 

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No you're not. I have yet to see Buyers Protection Fee, sorry stealth tax, in anything. Maybe I need a new pair of glasses, but this is,a real s**t show.

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BPF has been rolled out on the electronics category first with a future date ( not yet released) for other categories, so if you have to listed any electronics there is no BPF at the moment. 

 

Simple delivery I am unsure about , and believe it is applicable to eligible items only... but when listing an item if you scroll down to the postal delivery details,  you will see the options available to you.  I can see Postal or  collection in person, Postal only, collection only, freight only,  and would be required to click on the " box" which is relevant. 

 

@thomp1813 

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Mmm..... well I have yet to see it on anything. Personally I wouldn't advise selling or buying anything on eBay until they sort this out. Which isn't looking very likely.

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@doumind_7 wrote:

Mmm..... well I have yet to see it on anything. Personally I wouldn't advise selling or buying anything on eBay until they sort this out. Which isn't looking very likely.


Why do you advise people not to buy?

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I still have items listed, but I doubt I'll add any more.

I've decided that I won't be buying anything else on here. I've got a couple of orders in transit, but that's it for me.

I've spent over £600 so far this year on here, but I don't need to buy on Ebay, so I won't.

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Same here. I’ve just received my last purchase today, removed my listings last weekend and am waiting for a refund to be processed. 

Once my last sale has seen out its return window I’ll be closing my account.  I never thought of ebay as a shop -  it was a sometimes troublesome (much more so since October ‘24) part of my collecting hobby that I can well manage without. 

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Personally, if Ebay don't value me as a seller, then they obviously don't need me as a buyer.

They are treating sellers with contempt, and loading up costs for buyers.

I'm not advising other folks stop buying on here, but that's what I am doing.

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Exactly what I did from early December last year, and have sourced elsewhere. 

 

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I'm not going to close my account, I'll just leave it dormant.

They must have an algorithm which monitors dormant accounts, they can watch them grow in number...

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Fair enough. I just prefer to close accounts that have held access to my bank details if I know I’m never going to use them again. Years ago I experienced a dormant account being fraudulently ‘revived’ (not ebay) , which got quite messy. 

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I'm sure they will, just as they monitor these threads.

I've also put my account in suspension. I won't sell or buy.

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Yes I have those options but not SD. Assuming it will be compulsory in the future for me, how do i enter an amount for postage and packing? Is it automatically filled in by eBay and seller has to take the hit on the cost of packaging, tape transport etc? Or can seller still enter their own costs based on all these expenses?

 

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