Ebay confirms when Simple Delivery will be Mandatory

[wintersdawn1]

Someone else posted this as a reply to an existing thread but thought I would post it separately.  It appears to be taken from one of ebay's terms and conditions pages but I do not have a link.

 

[tressygirl]

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@southnorfolkstamps wrote:
HELP.

I have just looked on eBays FAQ abour Simple Delivery. It seems to show a whole list of exemptions in brackets under a section entitled; Which listings are eligible for Simple Delivery.

To me it reads that items such as Maps, Photographs, Postcards, Stamps etc will be exempt from having to use SD.

Am I reading it right?

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I found this announcement re maps / photographs etc from eBay:

No, maps and photographs are generally not exempt from eBay UK's Simple Delivery. Simple Delivery will be the only delivery option for private sellers listing eligible items, including maps and photographs, starting April 15, 2025. However, there are exceptions, such as items under 100g and worth less than £10, or those being shipped outside the UK and Channel Islands. 

@southnorfolkstamps

@southnorfolkstamps

[jills_cardclearout]

Apparently, if the item is under 100gms and under £10 in price, and will post as a letter (not large letter) you will be able to select custom postage.

So depending on how much protection you add to your stamps you might be able to opt out!

[lucy_farmer]

'To me it reads that items such as Maps, Photographs, Postcards, Stamps etc will be exempt from having to use SD.

Am I reading it right?'

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It's not that those items in themselves are exempt from SD.

It's that those items are likely to be under 100gm in weight and fit into a normal envelope. *And* if the item sells for less than £10, then they will be exempt from S.D..

Any other items that are also under 100gms ,fit in a normal envelope and are under a tenner should also be exempt from Silly Delivery.

[andha-21]

@lucy_farmer 

"Any other items that are also under 100gms ,fit in a normal envelope and are under a tenner should also be exempt from Silly Delivery."

could, normally, usually, generally, occasionally, whenever we want, whatever we decide ...

[thunderwing13]

I just set up a dummy listing:
A 7" vinyl record weighing less than 100g and priced at £3 + £1.70 shipping.
This is classed by Royal Mail as a large letter.

The system let me choose advance setting, so I went for Royal Mail 2nd class.
I wasn't asked whether it was a letter or a large letter
I wasn't charged for the listing.
It seems to be happy for me to go ahead as I have been doing all along.

Under 100g, under £10, no physical dimensions required.
Can list without "simple" delivery.

Can someone else try this to see if I missed something please?
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly.

[lucy_farmer]

'Can list without "simple" delivery.'

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It's *possible* Simple Del hasn't reached you yet : it's being rolled-out in a particularly 'lumpy' fashion...

[mr_aitch]

"Can list without "simple" delivery.

Can someone else try this to see if I missed something please?"

i've just tried listing collectable stamps, both auction and buy-it-now,  and was able to select custom postage at 87p for a letter. the FAQs states "... Simple Delivery will be optional for items priced £10 and under, letter-sized ..." so i'm wondering what happens if the sale price for the auction goes above £10.

[thunderwing13]

Ahhhh okay. will hold fire for a couple of weeks, I've already removed all my listings. I will check every few days before I port my stuff over to other selling sites. Thanks for the reply

[sunflowers4me59]

I was able to do a listing using advanced custom delivery economy second class letter/large letter for £1.65, under 100g/£10,  sold it straight away (somebody asked me to do it), and was able to invoice, they paid, I posted as normal large letter stamp at post office. That was 15th, the day stupid delivery supposedly started.

[skallagrigg]

The recent changes at eBay are absolutely miserable. The weird pricing now. Forcing Evri on me (no thanks - and how on Earth is that legal?). The holding onto money  until the courier/customer says they have the item. Dreadful. 

[johnwash1]

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@lucy_farmer wrote:

'Can list without "simple" delivery.'

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It's *possible* Simple Del hasn't reached you yet : it's being rolled-out in a particularly 'lumpy' fashion...

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Are there carrots in it?  Strange, there's always carrots.

[lucy_farmer]

'Are there carrots in it?  Strange, there's always carrots'

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Eeww...🤢 

[thunderwing13]

So it seems that finally I am on the new postage system completely.
Most of the records I sell are under £4 so now it isn't worth my while using eBay.

If I accept the postage costs myself then my profit reduces to mere pennies making it pointless to even bother selling.
If I make the buyer pay then I look bad to them for asking too much for a cheap record and they walk away,
Either way I lose out.

The cost is £2.70 for shipping but Royal Mail only charge £1.55 for the same item.
If the item is more expensive then it may work, £1.15 difference is negligible for an item of say £30 but means a lot for an item of 4 quid and it ain't worth it.
As I have said before it is forcing the casual / hobby driven / private sellers off of the eBay platform.

Ebay make more money out off me selling a £4 record than I do.
I list a record for £4, eBay put it up for £4.88 to the buyer.
ebay keep the 88p
eBay take 40p commission from me
eBay take £2.70 for shipping
Which leaves me 90p to myself.
Out of that 90p I have to pay for printer ink, paper, packing tape and my time.
Meanwhile eBay have gathered £1.28.

Shame on you eBay.

[oneswitch]

Are you able to change this via:

Hi thunderwing13 > Account Settings > Postage Preferences > [edit Simple Delivery - and turn off Evri and turn on Royal Mail] ?

I found this completely opaque, as it was something forced upon me. Maybe you'll be able to go back to Royal Mail that way?

[thunderwing13]

Hi,

I excluded Evri and left Royal Mail as my courier of choice, now the shipping is £2.72

The problem is how much eBay are charging for shipping not whom I can choose.

I just posted an item today for 87p as it was just a letter, eBay would still charge me £2.70 for it

[sml192]

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@thunderwing13 wrote:

Ebay make more money out off me selling a £4 record than I do.
I list a record for £4, eBay put it up for £4.88 to the buyer.
ebay keep the 88p
eBay take 40p commission from me
eBay take £2.70 for shipping
Which leaves me 90p to myself.
Out of that 90p I have to pay for printer ink, paper, packing tape and my time.
Meanwhile eBay have gathered £1.28.

What is the 40p for?  Private sellers don't pay any fees unless they use any listing upgrades or are selling internationally. 

[thunderwing13]

My apologises, I always paid commission, I just assumed they still did that.