Boycott ebay until Simple Delivery and other recent changes are romoved.

[iansims]

I am planning on boycotting ebay until recent changes are reversed. Especially the poorly named Simple Delivery. Do you agree?

[andha-21]

@iansims 

I won't sell for as long as Simple Delivery & BPF are active. So it's their choice how long that is.

I probably will continue buying, not because I agree with any of their policies, I don't, but because it looks like they killed the market of my main hobby area.

Warhammer models have taken a nosedive here since BPF started, down as much as 50% on some lines comparing against sales pre BPF.

The last few weeks I've paid maybe £200, but if I'd got the same models in January I would have been looking at around £380 for the models I now have.

I'm not loaded and can't turn that down.

Ironically it may help things finish faster because sellers will soon realise they are losing money here and just go elsewhere where markets are still stable.

I don't see a single way eBay wins out of this in the long term.

[sewbeck]

Completely Agree.

From today I've removed all items I had for sale. I refuse to be dictated to what service I use and how much I pay for that service with SD, the point of using Royal Mail is I could track what I sent.

 I have no words for EVRi other than I had the misfortune to be a courier with Hermes Years ago, I still know people there, It's not got any better run than it was, probably worse. 

I will also not buy anything on this site until ScamBay remove BPF.

Hopefully ScamBay will realise what a total F*** Up they have made with these changes, that's alienated many many private sellers, but I won't hold my breathe.

[m25jet]

Although I agree that everybody who is cheesed off with eBay's latest changes should boycott the site, in reality I think it is unlikely to work due to the fact that even if all of us who are cheesed off with these changes - buyers and sellers alike - were to boycott eBay they would more than likely just be replaced with new buyers and sellers who didn't know what it was like before, and who therefore would have no real concept of how good eBay used to be before the rot started to set in and they began introducing an endless stream of badly thought out and extremely unpopular changes to the site.  Therefore, even if hundreds - or perhaps even thousands - of people were to actively do as you have suggested my fear is that they would only end up being replaced by new users with no prior knowledge of the site, and who may well just grow to accept eBay as the dysfunctional mess that it has become today.

[*devils.advocate*]

The number of people who either participate on the Board, or lurk, is small in relation to all sellers. 

Therefore, a call to boycott the site (as has been asked many times over the years) would be ineffective. 

As a buyer, the number of items in the areas I look at, and buy in, are very noticeably reduced. 

I can only assume that all these changes, over such a short period of time, is having some sort of effect. 

That effect, I assume, will be on eBay's bottom line  -  perhaps not too much of a dent, but enough. 

I still buy - if the end price is right - but everyone must seek out the alternatives which suit them. 

But you must ask yourself,  what other sites give you the opportunity to sell to such as wide an audience as this does. 

Depends on what you sell  -  but DYOR before making a mistake.

[theelench]

To some extent you're right but that isn't what I found when I started putting some thought into how to sell on ebid.  Rather than just boycotting ebay, try somewhere else as well.

I sell vintage inter-war glass and as my sales here declined with every change introduced since MP was introduced, my sales over there increased to cover the loss.

Since Covid and its lock-downs my sales there have outsold those on ebay every year.  Last year I sold 28 items there as opposed to 4 on ebay.  I certainly haven't sold 28 items on ebay in any year since paypal was dumped.

I'd recommend anyone in a niche Collectables market area to try it.  People who collect search for what they want and will buy where they can find it.   How difficult is it to find what you want to buy on ebay these days with it's IS based search and results biased towards Sponsored listings?

You can list for a few pence an item.  Get your key-words right and you might be surprised at the results.

[department28]

It would be very interesting to know how many have already left, or are boycotting/pausing selling, due to these unpopular changes.

Simple Delivery does seem to be the bridge too far for many of us. eBay dictating not only what delivery services we can use, but also taking over the pricing, was bound to provoke outrage - especially with the older/original eBayers - but will there be enough of a backlash to force them to rethink, or modify some of these things? It would be nice to think so!

[*devils.advocate*]

I've always said that everything else  -  all the other changes  - is immaterial in relation to the impact of Simple Delivery. 

This is the watershed.

The principal main effect will be on buyers, not sellers.

Buyers will decide whether to buy or not - that's the deciding factor. 

Ebay have lost the plot - expecting me, as a buyer, to pay over-the-odds for postage. 

Do they think buyers are stupid?

I believe they do - and they will suffer the consequences. 

[medealady]

Some sellers havent sold a thing this year. Even warning buyers of price increases for them was like tumbleweed. Frankly people havent got the cash or collectors dont collect any more. If wanting new they head for Te*u.

[the-nutwood-collection]

I came across a site the other day where you put the stuff you want to sell in a box, the site sends a postage label, you send the box, and receive an offer for the contents.  If you don't accept the offer, they send the stuff back.

I thought it would be a super job to have - unboxing all the stuff.

I wonder if it will catch on?  That We Buy Any Car seems popular, based on the transporters I've seen leaving Sainsbury's car park.

[aphystykqa]

I have no plans to Boycott Ebay as a buyer, as it's absolutely a great site to buy from, and the selection is HUGE !! - Also the buyer protection policy is very appealing.

However, as for being a Seller is concerned. Well, this tragic decision of making Simple Delivery a Mandatory option - can only be described to myself as 'The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back'  - and mandatory Simple Delivery was that very final straw for me. I simply will not tolerate it. Not a chance.

When 'Every' site on the world-wide-web where I can sell my products on - gives me the multiple options of being able to post my items to buyers using my local Post Office Royal Mail service (as I have always used) - then why should Ebay do something which no other site does, and what makes it WORSE !! - is that this is just targeted to Private sellers. So Business sellers who are the least likely to use the Post Office - get that privilege. 

Well, Ebay's 'Loss' shall be other selling sites 'Gain', as that's where this mandatory nightmare caused by Ebay has pushed myself towards, and believe-you-me, I never ever wanted this, as Ebay 99% of the time was always my only port-of-call when it comes to selling items.

I do hope this really does backfire on Ebay financially and reputation-wise, because that will be the only way that (hopefully in time) Ebay reverses this tragic decision. But of-course, Ebay has made quite a lot of unpopular changes over the last few years, and they don't seem to care when faced with large, medium or small critique - and then go and then make yet another unpopular decision. Well, in my books, this decision was the worst of them all.

[trtho9007]

I've just ended all my listings hoping that ebay will see what a mess they've made, I was going to wait until 7 April but then thought what's the point because if I get a sale in the meantime do I need the hassle as I'm sure the label would be wrong. I only offer free postage with Royal Mail 48 hour tracked (I'd never use Evri) so have never needed to include weights or dimensions so I'd have to go in and amend everything. Also if ebay can still effectively overrule my posting preference I may still get an Evri label. The costs for me to post has gone up as well so to cover the extra I'd have to increase the amounts on my listings there's just no point. Hoping one day that I can return when ebay sees the error of their ways, I've read lots of the posts on here and think it's sad that people who've been selling for years have decided to leave I'm still a newbie but I understand their frustration.

[missdollydaydream]

The people who created the present eBay mess are the same ones who will "supposedly" sort it out. These people have already shown their incompetence so there is little hope of things improving any time soon.  In my humble opinion, a clean sweep of eBay upper management is the only thing that can save eBay.

[flawedbear]

After 13 years, I’ve now had enough.

they will say nobody likes change, but this is now over.  EBay has really shot itself in the foot. well done

[reasonable.robert]

problem is what markets online there isnt any real choices here 

vinted...its full of bargain hunters and grave robbers you ask a fiver they,ll offer you £3 and i,ve seen stuff on there uploaded more than 3+ months ... plus its flooded with ex e bayers.

facebook...you get plenty of clicks but very few buyers plus its full of scammers and timewasters who are the bane of my life.

ebid/ gumtree ...i,ve seen more life in carlton cemetary.

etsy ..expensive to set up on there plus its restrictive as to what you can sell

amazon... PASS

as for the others i dont think they attract as much custom as e bay did 

e bay knows its got you by the wotsits selling wise and seems to think itself unsinkable so it can do what it likes  to screw as much out of its sellers as it can.

so it looks like 3 choices stay as a p/s and go a week plus without any sales grin and bear it

bite the weenie and go to a B/S  possibly the same as i,ve just said or maybe a couple of sales a week but pay 36p and a fvf for the privalage of doing so... or  just give up the ghost.

[sebastian4ever]

I have had enough.  Adios Amigos.

[sebastian4ever]

Article on new changes on Manchester evening news dot co dot uk

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebay-sellers-say-they-done-31334112

[reasonable.robert]

DA please define a e bay board lurker ...😂😂

[*devils.advocate*]

Someone who only reads the boards but doesn't participate (doesn't post) - they lurk in the background .

[reasonable.robert]

thank you DA it was meant to inject some humour 

but i think i failed misrably....😁