28-07-2025 8:07 AM
22-08-2025 3:23 PM
I do this too and it does help with most buyers. Just a polite message explaining ebay's delivery estimates are not an accurate guess and to allow up to a week.
22-08-2025 4:39 PM
On this subject I've just had a customer claiming INR within 4 days of posting and they have just said:
Buyer’s message: 'We will wait until the 28th August as per ebay rules, and then I guess ebay will sort it on your behalf. This is mad, you can buy an ebay postage label for the same value and the 2nd class items get tracked
Can someone explain the above - will this not still fall foul of the 'no delivery on Saturday - delivery every other day'?
22-08-2025 5:27 PM
Difficult to say, without knowing the full picture - is however you sent it tracked? If not, that would explain their thinking IMO.
22-08-2025 9:37 PM
Hi - All our post is 2nd class Royal Mail bought through ebay (hence was not sure what the buyers point was - I did ask)
I have noticed Royal Mail are ALOT quicker at getting an email back when you open a case with them for an item not delivered (the last few have been replied to within 48 hours)... however, for 2nd class it has to have been longer than 10 working days before you can open a case / report it... and now I'm finding buyers (like In this instance ) Have opended an INR case on ebay within 5 days of placing an order!!
We don't stand a chance
23-08-2025 11:42 AM
Im finding a lot of 2nd class large letters taking up to a week to 10 days to be delivered.
But also since end July i have sent several 2nd class small parcels that have not been confirmed as delivered. Are RM trying to force us into tracked 48 small parcels?
The price difference isn't much but when your on a low margin on low priced items it means upping prices again. I have 3 at the moment that i don't know if the customer has got it or not unless they leave feedback. Also one has opened an INR and technically it's not even late yet.
If several of you are having the same problem please share it. I read someone else also having the same problem. I am starting to think it is across the board on 2nd small parcels as it is only since the end of July i have seen this happening and it is only 2nd small parcels, the ones i send tracked 48 are all being scanned as delivered. I believe it is a new silent policy by RM to get us all to change to tracked.
23-08-2025 12:09 PM
To make matters worse, it looks like eBay haven't recognised Monday 25th as a bank holiday, with no collection or deliveries in most areas.
23-08-2025 7:04 PM
FWIW.
Buyer closed the case as soon as I told him it was a label bought via ebay.
May have been a coincidence - but seeing as today is a Saturday, they wouldn't have had a 2nd class delivery either.
24-08-2025 10:04 AM
I sent a LL 2nd class on August 11 and it wasn't delivered until yesterday (23rd). This is becoming typical and many are taking 7-10 days to arrive.
But still according to eBay, nothing has changed and their EDDs are working as intended.
24-08-2025 10:21 AM
I've said this on another thread before, but another one of ebays cs agents told me a while ago that they are trying to phase out 'side hustles' and only want business sellers now.
I wonder if they think business sellers will take the hit on tracked postage and they (ebay) don't care so much for the little items that don't make them much money?
I put several of my items on Vinted yesterday - things that have sat untouched on ebay for well over a month - and nearly all sold within an hour! No fees either so a win for me.
eBay has got too greedy and has no respect for it's long-time sellers any more.
24-08-2025 6:20 PM
There are still 2nd class deliveries on Saturdays. I had 2nd class letter post yesterday delivered to my house.
The communication has been poor from Royal Mail on this but it hasn't been fully rolled out and there are still changes been made in delivery offices to accommodate the change. On top of this the union are kicking back on the changes as well.
24-08-2025 6:22 PM
I have recently seen some RM48 LL's take over 3 weeks to arrive with buyers so it is not just 2nd class that takes a long time.
25-08-2025 10:24 AM
I wonder if that's mail that's been held over from earlier in the week.
I'm seeing vans arriving in my area at odd times, often quite late in the day or Saturday afternoons, with someone on foot doing a short round. Presumably a catching-up exercise.
Also noticed the GSP depot gets Sunday deliveries for 2nd class.
28-08-2025 3:05 PM
I sold an item on Saturday afternoon. Messaged the buyer to inform them Royal Mail would be closed for the Bank Holiday on Monday so it would be Tuesday PM before it is collected. Buyer has today (Thursday) contacted me saying item not arrived (it was sent second class LL). Ebay's estimated delivery day for the buyer was Wednesday which is an impossibility.
This is an absolute joke!
29-08-2025 10:46 AM
Yeah I'm just dealing with another customer who is angry at me because ebay gave them an 'estimated' delivery date of the 28th/29th apparently and neither her nor ebay took into account that I post with 2 working days.
I sent her parcel yesterday, clearly explaining in a dispatch email how tracking and 2nd class work for a standard parcel and she is now accusing me of not posting the untracked item becasue it hasn't been scanned yet and it being delivered late!!
I even explained in the email that it is ebay who give the estimates, not the sellers but she's still going.
Funny how she didn't take the faster postage option and opted for free 2nd class delivery at checkout though!
01-09-2025 12:18 PM
I’m currently experiencing the same issues as many other since Royal Mail worsened the service while keeping prices unchanged. I posted two orders last week, neither has been delivered yet. It also seems the limited tracking on RM Click & Drop has changed, before you used to get multiple status updates of “We’ve got it” but now just the one with the tracking stuck on “In Transit” for days. Combined with eBay’s unrealistic delivery estimates for the service, it’s starting to feel like 2nd Class Large Letter may no longer be a viable option for sellers.
18-09-2025 8:39 AM
This still hasn’t been updated, 95% + of my orders fall under £20 and every week now I’m getting a handful of INR’s after eBay state 2nd class delivery is within 3 days. E.g. buying today on 2nd class shows delivery before 22/09 which isn’t even possible! I’m absolutely sick of this and eBay don’t give a *bleep*
18-09-2025 1:09 PM
If your getting a handful of INRs each week it wont be long before they extend your delivery times anyway so it might do you a favour. This is what ebay have done to us as well as making us wait 30 days for payouts for untracked items!!
22-09-2025 4:59 PM - edited 22-09-2025 5:00 PM
This article from Print Week a couple of days ago made interesting reading:
"Royal Mail owner EP Group and the Communication Workers Union (CWU) have agreed to pause any further roll-out of the new USO delivery system this year.
Currently there are 35 pilot sites working to deliver to the new USO regulatory framework, which came into effect on 28 July.
The new USO retains a six days a week, Monday to Saturday delivery service for First Class mail, while Second Class post will be delivered on a five day alternating schedule that excludes Saturdays.
However, a previous CWU briefing on the early experiences at the pilot scheme delivery offices had already flagged potential challenges with maintaining performance during high-volume periods, and in the event of adverse weather conditions.
The rigidity of the new USO model was also highlighted as a possible issue at peak periods.
In a statement issued on Friday afternoon (19 September), the CWU stated: “We met with EP Group last Thursday and they confirmed that given the differences that remain between Royal Mail and CWU on the approach to deploying USO Reform, alongside the need for all parties to now focus on preparing properly for the pending peak period, there will be no further deployment of the USO this year, beyond the existing 35 pilot sites.
“The Union believes this is the right decision and represents a pragmatic response from the company to resolving these crucial issues, allowing for further talks to prioritise the need to reach an agreement that deploys a workable and sustainable solution, rather than one that is based on pre-determined and unrealistic savings.”
The CWU said the decision not to deploy any further USO reform this year also reflected the correct sequencing of the commitments made in section five of the EP Group/CWU agreement, and both parties have now agreed to “intensify discussions from next week to resolve all the outstanding section 5 issues.”
In December 2024 the CWU reached an agreement with EP Group, which listed legal guarantees and several other commitments, including on pay in 2025 and resolving outstanding issues.
Royal Mail had not commented at the time of writing.
Regulator Ofcom had previously envisaged the full roll-out of the new USO could take as long as 12-18 months.
An Ofcom spokesperson told Printweek: “The changes to our regulation of the delivery of Second Class letters took effect on 28 July 2025. Securing the benefits of these changes will rely on the effective implementation of the new operating model by Royal Mail.
“It is the company’s decision when and how to implement changes to its operations, and it has estimated that implementing the necessary changes across its network will take approximately 18-24 months. We will monitor this process closely, in particular to identify any issues with the implementation of changes, assess whether the cost savings have been realised and understand any impacts on the consumer experience.”