GPSR Compliance

[bojangled]

This is as clear as mud to me. Been to the gov. advice website and various others.
How does a 1972 poster fit in to this process?

It's not an exempt category. 

Advise buyers this item is for viewing only ? 

My initial reaction, sadly, to to switch EU and NI off. 
Jo

[lens-sage]

"as the item was required to be compliant with Directive 2001/95/EC (an earlier version of the GPSRs) before the deadline"

The older GPSD was basically self regulated and putting the item on sale acted as a personal declaration.

There was no further policing of it to my knowledge, at least not on a large scale.

I'm pretty sure nobody here has been asked to upload forms etc to comply. 

I believe that's why there is the disclaimer automatically added by ebay in the business info section about complying with EU law

[4_bathrooms]

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@stevensonplumbing wrote:

The TSS service doesn't relate to GPSR.

It's for business to business sales.

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Where does it state that? As per the TSS:

"If you move goods in or out of Northern Ireland the Trader Support Service will guide you through any changes due to the implementation of the Windsor Framework."

The Windsor Framework is the reason goods supplied to consumers in Northern Ireland are required to comply with the EU's GPSRs. 

[4_bathrooms]

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@lens-sage wrote:

"as the item was required to be compliant with Directive 2001/95/EC (an earlier version of the GPSRs) before the deadline"

The older GPSD was basically self regulated and putting the item on sale acted as a personal declaration.

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The General Product Safety Directive was transposed into every EU member's national legislation as the GPSRs. The only difference now is online marketplaces are being forced to check products are compliant before they can be sold to buyers in the EU and NI. GB businesses are also required to appoint an EU or NI representative for any non-exempt products they place on the EU/NI market. As mentioned; the TSS/UKC route may make selling to NI-based buyers a little easier for GB-based businesses.

[stevensonplumbing]

It's for customs declarations for business to business transactions, in case any goods travel onwards to Europe from NI.

[4_bathrooms]

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@stevensonplumbing wrote:

It's for customs declarations for business to business transactions, in case any goods travel onwards to Europe from NI.

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That is not the only thing they do! They will create an entry summary declaration - which is not a customs declaration - for any goods moving between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. An ESD is required for all goods moved from GB to NI even when no customs declaration is necessary (i.e. when a GB-established retailer sells something to an NI consumer).

After 30th September GB retailers sending goods to NI consumers via Royal Mail or courier will need to apply for UK Carrier Scheme authorisation. Part of that application requires an indirect customs representative - that role is fulfilled by the TSS if the business applying is registered with them.   

[tjones180]

Do I need a GPSR for the postcards and greetings cards that I sell to buyers in the EU ? They do not appear on the Excluded List. If so, could anybody explain to me what a dangerous postcard looks like.

[therenewalworkshopltd]

One with a sharp edge?  😉

[fastcakes]

I sell mainly vinyl records, it's interesting to note that vinyl specialists Discogs have made no mention of any of this nonsense. I will simply remove any remaining vinyl from Ebay and sell it on Discogs. As for my other items (books/magazines etc) I will just exclude EU and NI.

[therenewalworkshopltd]

A very quick search and there is lots of talk over there all about GPSR on their forums.

It's not a platform thing, but a legal thing, so no matter were you sell, you will have to comply with it.  Even if your selling on YOUR OWN website.

So if you really believe that selling over there will be any easier, then you are in for a nasty suprise.

[bzmotman]

Many of your postcards will be exempt as they are over 100 years old others you could claim exemption in the Collectables part but the problem is how Ebay are going to enforce the rules. Personally I have never seen contact info, safety guides, user guide etc for any railway ticket let alone those from the 1890s but at the moment they seem to be expecting them.

None of the Collectables sites seem to have a problem with GPSR. I feel the issue is that Ebay are trying to be all things to all things so when something like this comes along they design a policy to suit say electrical goods & apply it to collectables.

We will probably only see some sense from them when they see their income/profits diminish by which time some/many sellers may not be here.

[bzmotman]

To me the issue is why are Ebay not following their own advice & the regulations regarding Antiques and Collectables in the exempt categories.

Not rocket science just asking for them to follow the regulations.

[therenewalworkshopltd]

The trouble is, this is all brand new to everyone.  As such, it is open to interpretation.  It will take time for things to get settled properly, as it does every time a new piece of legislation is introduced.

And we are still on the run up to it, so there is plenty of time for things to change still.

[bzmotman]

All well & good but I, and others, need to buy stock knowing that we will be able to list it.

If there is still plenty of time for things to change why are Ebay already delisting items that don't comply with GSPR?

There has been zero help from Ebay reps on this thread in marked contrast to the German thread where the rep is actively trying to help.

[tjones180]

Many thanks cor your help.

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[tjones180]

Many thanks for your help.

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[tjones180]

Many thanks for your help.

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[billythecardy]

So I asked the Regulatory Team at eBay Open about selling items like books etc which have no safety information but are not on the exempt list, and they referred me to someone from eBay US who basically said "Don't worry about it.  If it's a product that comes with safety info then put that in, plus the other details.  But if it's a product that obviously doesn't need safety instructions etc then don't do it."  She seemed to be of the opinion that obviously some products will require this info - toys, electronics etc - but products like books, cards, sheet music, sewing patterns obviously do not come with safety instructions so you don't need to enter the info for them. 

Interesting to see how this will all pan out in practice but in the meantime I am not going to spend any more time thinking about it, I'm just carrying on as normal until someone tells me otherwise.

[a45heaven]

I believe that's why there is the disclaimer automatically added by ebay in the business info section about complying with EU law

You think ?

I thought it was a pre-cursor to ebay moving from London to main land Europe.

Communication is such a clever thing, i wonder if ebay will ever grasp that again?

[a45heaven]

Yes its interesting that no other platform has announced any changes to the protocols for selling , including the submissions to HMRC (The record platform you mentioned especially).

Unless 'something' changes ill just end up stopping Europe and NI sales from ebay - no great deal on Europe as that business has already died for the ebay part of my business.

Good luck on what e'r you choose.

[lens-sage]

Amazone have mentioned it on their seller boards