22-07-2015 5:22 PM
I heard this question asked on the radio today in the wake of an incident in a restaurant in USA where a cafe owner shouted at a child after the parents had failed to keep them quiet.
I have shouted at a child on at least one occasion, other times I have at least spoken to them sternly telling then to decist from doing something.
The time I shouted at a child was about 2 years ago when I was in an outdoor play area with my girls. A young boy of about 4 or 5 years old was throwing handfuls of gravel around and much of it was hitting other children. I told him in forthright manner to pack it in and so he did, for a while. A boy of about 10 who had been taking a peppering while sitting on a ride thanked me. However a minute or two later the boy started to throw gravel again with me not far away and so I shouted "I SAID PACK IT IN", at which he ran off with his tail between his legs.
I was half expecting to be confronted by a parent or two but it didn't happen.
So what's your opinion on chastising other people's children?
22-07-2015 5:51 PM
22-07-2015 7:17 PM
You did the right thing.
Shouting at such a brat is fine so long as there's no bad language or abuse.
That child will probably go on to be a bully (if he isn't already) but if another child retaliates, he'll go off screaming blue murder.
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
22-07-2015 7:21 PM
Wow! astro you sound really scary.
I won't waste energy shouting at them either, I find a growl works better than a scowl.
22-07-2015 7:21 PM
No, it is not.
22-07-2015 7:28 PM
It is not right to shout or discipline other peoples children.
It is equally wrong that so many parents ignore their children.
When my kids were young I took responsibility for their behaviour It really naffs me off when I see kids running riot while the parents have a fag or something similarly intelectual.
22-07-2015 8:55 PM
"My little girl was in the playground and there was this horrible boy throwing stones at all the kids. There was a man standing watching but he never said a thing, he just watched.
The boy threw a stone and hit my little girl in the eye and now she's blind in that eye. It's that man's fault for not saying anything to the boy to get him to stop."
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
22-07-2015 9:05 PM
22-07-2015 10:26 PM
@fallen-archie wrote:It is not right to shout or discipline other peoples children.
It is equally wrong that so many parents ignore their children.
So if the parents fail to set them straight is it right that they should go uncecked, undisciplined?
22-07-2015 11:11 PM
23-07-2015 9:22 AM
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Telling a kid off when it does something destructive, dangerous or nasty, when the parents aren't around to do so, is perfectly fine in my book. I have done it myself. I think it's all part of a child's upbringing.
If the parents can't be bothered and society isn't allowed to correct it.....then we are back at that "underclass" we were discussing.
23-07-2015 4:57 PM
That underclass harry ? which one ..? do you mean the people who don't care about others and bring their kids up the same because they are called amongst other things louts and don't belong to a class because a class is a made up name to class people into groups for schooling. Anyone would think using the word underclass as a euphemism for worse off citizens. and upperclass for better off ones would be snobbery.
23-07-2015 5:00 PM
ps..of course its alright to shout at anyone acting like a lout 🙂
23-07-2015 5:22 PM - edited 23-07-2015 5:25 PM
@cee-dee wrote:"My little girl was in the playground and there was this horrible boy throwing stones at all the kids. There was a man standing watching but he never said a thing, he just watched.
The boy threw a stone and hit my little girl in the eye and now she's blind in that eye. It's that man's fault for not saying anything to the boy to get him to stop."
What could the man have done? Even by merely watching the children, he was under suspicion as a potential paedophile.
Suppose he'd actually approached the boy, and spoken to him. Or physically tried to restrain the child from throwing stones. Then the man would very likely have ended up getting arrested by the Police.
So of course the man didn't take any action. He was understandably afraid to do so.
23-07-2015 6:34 PM
what was a suspected peado doing in a kids playground springs to mind
23-07-2015 6:56 PM
Of course it's not right and I admit to having corrected miscreants when they have made a nuisance of themselves. In most cases though it is the parents who are at fault but they see it differently.
23-07-2015 7:04 PM - edited 23-07-2015 7:04 PM
have you evidence that in most cases the parents are the reason their children misbehave or is it your assumption ?
23-07-2015 8:04 PM
I have no scientific evidence, such a study would doubtless be very expensive. As a parent with grown up children I can only comment on personal experience. I remember my first visit to Nandos, Weekday lunchtime and behind were three mothers with a batallion of young children. The floor under and around the table was strewn with chips and fizzy drink. The women were probably in their late teens and were chatting happily away but completely ignoring the children. Two kids ventured towards the table i was sat at and decided to join us, The women were aware and clearly awaiting a reaction from me. I chose to ignore them but they persisted until one of the three women bellowed at the children who reluctantly went back to the chaos around their own table. It wasn't long before they reappeared again and again until eventually they left. It took four staff ages to clean up and make good. That is but one story and there are many more. Sometimes the parents are so besotted with their offspring they believe everyone will share their adoration Sorry but not everyone does in fact I wish the brats would naff off and allow me to relax free from the fear of being labelled a predatory pervert because these days it is easy to aquire a label.
23-07-2015 9:57 PM - edited 23-07-2015 9:58 PM
Yes it is right to shout at someone elses child, I have done and would not hesitate to do so again.
23-07-2015 10:05 PM
@malacandran wrote:
@cee-dee wrote:"My little girl was in the playground and there was this horrible boy throwing stones at all the kids. There was a man standing watching but he never said a thing, he just watched.
The boy threw a stone and hit my little girl in the eye and now she's blind in that eye. It's that man's fault for not saying anything to the boy to get him to stop."
What could the man have done? Even by merely watching the children, he was under suspicion as a potential paedophile.
Suppose he'd actually approached the boy, and spoken to him. Or physically tried to restrain the child from throwing stones. Then the man would very likely have ended up getting arrested by the Police.
So of course the man didn't take any action. He was understandably afraid to do so.
The right thing to do is not always the easy thing!
I don't actually believe that people in general spend much time being overly suspicious of others!