The "new" covid mutation.

Why has the World descended on the UK like a ton of bricks over this supposedly "new" covid-19 mutation?

 

It was first detected back in April in Brazil. In that time hasn't it had chance to spread everywhere?

 

It seems to me that they're appearing to "blame" the UK for having it and seem determined to"punish" the UK by banning this, that and the other.

 

The mutation was detected in other countries in the months following it's original detection so why are they going over the top now?



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lambsy_uk
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Good question! The UK seems to be the World’s favourite Pantomime Villain at the moment.
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60% of the Covid infections in the U.K. are the new variant - why would countries with low numbers of the variant allow UK visitors?

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At the end of October the most common variant in the UK originated in Spain, in farm workers, and tourists brought it back here. I bet the new supposedly more infectious one is already all over Europe; I think it has been detected elsewhere too in the S hemisphere, like S. Africa.
I don't think there should have been so much travel allowed over the summer in all directions, if they seriously wanted to reduce the spread of the virus.
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You're correct - population movement should have been limited much earlier - can't really blame countries that are doing so now. 

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The "new" strain was detected in April in Brazil. Sooooooooo, how did it get here? Sprout winds and fly? No, but a carrier did?

 

"Similar variants" have been detected in "other European countries" in recent months so why didn't they do something about it at that time?



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What if, why if - if ifs and buts were pots and pans there would be no work for tinkers.

 

The time for recriminations as to why the wrong decisions were made is later, at least the right thing is being done now.

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I blame the media and their scaremongering headlines .... mutant virus etc. Yes it is a mutation which viruses and cells do all the time but 'mutant' breeds more fear than variant.
I also don't think that scientists can yet put a number (like 70%) for how much more transmissible this 'new' variant is. More media bull pooh I reckon.

I suspect Macron and other EU leaders also want to punish us over reduced fishing rights. Our fishing industry may not be big compared with other business but thank goodness we have one bargaining tool that is important to some EU countries.
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Is it right though? I think the Europeans (particularly France) are using it as retribution for Brexit.

 

They've never forgiven us for Trafalgar and Waterloo quite apart from us saving them in WW1 and WW2 by poking our noses in Smiley LOL



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And remember Agincourt! 😃

Looks like we were thinking the same cee dee!
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Yes, probably because it's likely to be true?



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I'm sure we can all think of spurious reasons why particular countries are restricting movement from the U.K. - all equally unlikely compared to the thought that they may be doing so in order to protect their own citizens.

 

We could have a new Christmas game thinking of reasons why the following countries have taken action 🙂

 

France: Banned all passenger and cargo traffic travelling in the air and through the English Channel tunnel from Britain until midnight Tuesday.

 

Belgium: Blocked the tunnel and airports from all passenger travel - even transit - for 24 hours from 12am Sunday.

 

Germany: Cancelled passenger flights from the UK until 31 December and extended its ban on air passenger flights to a ban on all forms of transport until 6 January

 

Ireland: Flights to and from Great Britain, not including Northern Ireland, will be banned until 31 December, except for Irish residents and Irish-bound passengers stranded while transiting through British airports.

 

Netherlands: Banned flights from Britain at least until the new year.

 

Spain: Flights from the UK suspended indefinitely from Tuesday, with those carrying Spanish citizens and residents excluded. Border controls with Gibraltar, the British colony on its southwestern coast, will also tighten.

 

Switzerland: Stopped foreign nationals arriving from the UK (and South Africa) and mandated quarantine for people arriving since 14 December.

 

Italy: grounded flights from and to Britain until 6 January, while barring entry for anyone who has been in Britain in the last fortnight.

 

Russia: will suspend air traffic with the UK for one week from Tuesday.

 

Austria: no passenger flights allowed to land from Britain until the new year.

 

Denmark: suspended incoming British flights until 9am Wednesday.

 

Sweden: suspended all incoming travel from Britain and Denmark until further notice.

 

Norway: banned incoming flights from Britain starting Monday for 48 hours.

 

Croatia: slights from the UK cancelled for two days from Sunday night.

 

Bulgaria: banned all flights to and from Britain until 31 January.

 

Malta: stopped flights both ways without an end date.

 

Finland: suspended flights with Britain, with the national carrier Finnair ceasing all UK flights for two weeks.

 

Poland, Portugal, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, North Macedonia: stopping flights from Britain indefinitely.

 

Israel: initially banned flights from Britain (along with Denmark and South Africa) then forbid any foreign nationals from entering the country for 10 days from Monday.

 

Oman: suspended all entry to the country by foreigners and halted international passenger flights, starting Tuesday for one week. Cargo flights are excluded.

 

Saudi Arabia: paused all international passenger flights and land and sea arrivals for a week or until clearer details emerged about the COVID variant, with cargo flights and supply chains exempt.

 

Iran: suspended flights to the UK for a fortnight from Monday. All Iranian planes ordered to return without passengers.

 

Turkey: barred flights from Britain (as well as Denmark, the Netherlands and South Africa) for unknown period.

 

Sudan: banned travellers arriving from Britain, the Netherlands and South Africa, starting Monday and until 5 January.

 

Tunisia: suspended air links with Britain, South Africa and Australia, from this Monday and until further notice. Anyone who has resided or transited through these countries will not be allowed access to Tunisian territory.

 

Canada: halted flights from Britain indefinitely.

 

United States: New York State governor intends to stop flights from Britain to the state.

 

Peru: halted commercial flights from Europe for 14 days

 

El Salvador: prohibited entry from Britain (and South Africa)

 

Chile: direct flights with Britain barred, along with the entry of foreigners who had been in the UK for the past two weeks.

 

Argentina: suspended commercial flights to and from Britain.

 

Jamaica: Halted all flights coming into the island from the UK for two weeks, until 4 January.

 

Grenada: Suspended all air traffic to and from the UK until further notice

 

Hong Kong: banned all flights from the UK.

 

Pakistan: imposed temporary ban on travellers arriving from Britain from Tuesday until 29 December. Pakistani nationals can return home from Britain after a negative COVID-19 test.

 

India: suspended flights from Britain until 31 December.

 

Singapore: no flights to or from the UK from 23 December, including those in transit. Returning Singapore citizens and permanent residents can enter after a PCR test but must isolate for 14 days.

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They didn't think of that when they allowed people to travel from their countries though?



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Nor did we - I'm pretty sure we didn't ban travel to any country if they were willing to accept travellers - we did though require many of those returning to isolate.

 

A number of the countries in that list have banned travel to the U.K. as well as travel from.  

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I know someone who recently went to South Korea, had 14 days mandatory quarantine as soon as she arrived.

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@cee-dee wrote:

They didn't think of that when they allowed people to travel from their countries though?


Flight ban for planes arriving from South Africa - mandatory isolation for anyone who has recently returned from SA.

 

Follows identification of a second reproducing Covid variant in two individuals recently travelled from SA

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-55421730

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The Oxford vaccine has been approved now so I wonder how that'll cope with any new mutations?



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Mutations were predicted at the very start of all this, and, along with a steadily rising death toll, there was only one obvious course of action and that was to lock down hard and rapidly.  I was writing a school essay on this topic along with the guys fromhttps://www.topwritersreview.com/reviews/acad-write/ and was discovering about new mutations. Rejecting the lead of China and other Asian countries was criminally irresponsible.

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Apprently these more potent mutations result in 13 deaths per 1000 rather than 10 per thousand; so the World and his Dog are spreading fear and disruption for the sake a small number of extra cases. Yes an extra 3 is significant but they don't want to give people the details. they're happy to let people believe we're facing something that we're not.

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Dunno CD. Have you thought about asking if you can have Chris Wittys job?
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