The beginning?

[cee-dee]

OK, so "They" say "everything" began with the Big Bang.

Fair enough, it was quite something and happened faster than the blink of an eye?

"They" also say nothing can travel faster than light?

If that's so, how can "They" view light which "began" shortly after the Big Bang?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19728375

We are "here", they're viewing light from a heck of a long way away, such light will have taken billions of years to get here even at approximately 186,000 miles per second.

So how did we get out "here", so far from that light when it was Starlight so long ago?

OK, were we able to get to the source of that light in an instant, we'd find it was probably no longer there but we are billions of miles from where that light was so how come the matter from which our Solar System was formed got sooooo far away from the Stars they're no "seeing"?

[spawnjohnuk]

ps cd if i may..until science can tell exactly what the unimatter we float about in is made of exactly,your question to how and mine(to why not all the time ,with populated planets popping up left right and centre ) is only ever going to be unexplainable.

God is as good a word as any to describe that unexplainable and also to reason the drive and desire to find out imo,been around to give faith in scientists to search for answers long enough.

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I suggest that the answer to your question without discussion not including variables is ...god  knows lol we certainly don't

So that was a quick thread wasn't it.

[spawnjohnuk]

And what created the creator? Et cetera :^O

the big bang 😛

[spawnjohnuk]

anyhow...ta ta ,

[Anonymous]

here is a question,

1) did the universe start with the big bang, then develop over billions of years, with stars forming, then planets, life and then us

2) it is by god every thing exists

which is the easiest to speculate upon?

[cee-dee]

1) B-)

[spawnjohnuk]

pete 🙂  what does life and then us mean ? :8}

[cee-dee]

I guess Pete will be along to explain but I think he means that he was giving a timeline for how things developed.

After the Big Bang, Stars formed, some Planets formed, some life formed on some Planets (microbial to start with), then larger life formed and finally we appeared.

[spawnjohnuk]

I was thinking along the lines of,thats the key to all this,what is life and how the uniwatsit created it all from as you say, micromebia and the likes.

Pete put life then us and I agree (dont think pete meant it same as me however) we want answers ,nothing else cares. How many species ? why all on one planet ? why have a lifeform trying figure it all out ?,whats everything else doing? lol

So life and then us makes perfect sense to me as we will work it out on how to populate a planet 🙂 very odd this evolution malarkey.   

[Anonymous]

 unless you belive in a creator life cannot just be instantaneous, you cannot have a lifeless planet one second then intelligent hominoid life forms the next. the fossil records spanning millions of years for this planet prove that, same as the universe, if a creator made this universe, everything within should be of the same age, unless he/she made a bit here then a bit there, but the bible says it only took one day to create the heavens, as was life as in the animals to walk the earth, so why do we have fossil records, and why do we observe stars at different stages of development, unless the universe is evolving,  

so the reason why i said life then us, is because life was not us (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) life evolved through mutation caused by the earth changing through out eons of time. one only has to look at the Galapagos Islands to see evolution at work.

[upthecreekyetagain]

But would time be the same for God as it is for us now?

Was time at the beginning of the universe as it is now?  What was/is a day to God.

Roman Catholics don't believe in a literal translation of the Bible and subscribe to the principle of evolution.

As far as I remember from my RI classes there is nothing against Church teachings to suggest that at a particular point God "injected" a soul into a male and then a female hominid.  This gets over the problem of a restricted gene pool.  There would have been nothing to stop the children of Adam and Eve procreating with hominids who didn't have a soul but producing children that did.

All hocus pocus of course, (in my opinion), but it does have a certain logic to it.

[cee-dee]

Ignoring religion, there's a possibility "God" was an alien visitor here and there wasn't just one of them!

To simple early humans "they" were certainly Gods who could do amazing things. Those Gods didn't create the Universe, but they may have created homo-sapiens out of mixing "themselves" with early hominids.

It is possible, it also requires a leap of faith but it's as "unprovable" as anything else and is also blessed with some logic.

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Ignoring religion, there's a possibility "God" was an alien visitor here and there wasn't just one of them!

To simple early humans "they" were certainly Gods who could do amazing things. Those Gods didn't create the Universe, but they may have created homo-sapiens out of mixing "themselves" with early hominids.

It is possible, it also requires a leap of faith but it's as "unprovable" as anything else and is also blessed with some logic.

Good evening all.:-x

I have just found and read something very exiting, something I have not come across before and find it really encouraging and upbuilding for me in the faith I am in.

This goes a long way to proving that the bible is not just a myth or a collection of made up stories. Even archeologists that are not of the same faith are in no doubt that the Bible is God's word.

Now if that is the case then we have very good reason to believe that what was stated at Genisis about creation being God's work "The begining" is true and factual too.

🙂 I so wish I could go and visit and see this wonderous place for myself.

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Good evening all.:-x

I have just found and read something very exiting, something I have not come across before and find it really encouraging and upbuilding for me in the faith I am in.

This goes a long way to proving that the bible is not just a myth or a collection of made up stories. Even archeologists that are not of the same faith are in no doubt that the Bible is God's word.

Now if that is the case then we have very good reason to believe that what was stated at Genisis about creation being God's work "The begining" is true and factual too.

🙂 I so wish I could go and visit and see this wonderous place for myself.

Lol, just like me to forget to add the important bit.:^O

Sorry, I meant to have posted this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw_6qcELVDk

[Anonymous]

so why do astronomers see via telescopes stars at different stages of development. a creationist universe would have them all at the same age.if  this is a crationalists universe then why is there no order, why create dis-order.

[mitzigirl_123]

A slight diversion but interesting nevertheless...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17827347

It'll be cheaper to wait and see if the Asteroid 2004 MN4 hits the earth on April 13, 2029!

[cee-dee]

In a weeks time, we're having a close encounter:-

http://news.sky.com/story/1048633/asteroid-to-pass-earth-in-record-near-miss

I wonder how old that bit of space junk is? I wonder if it was part of the formation of our Solar System, is it bit chipped off a collision between early coalescing "bodies" in the system or is it a bit of much older space junk captured by the gravitational effect of our solar/planetary system?

All interesting stuff eh?

[Anonymous]

hi CD, if it hits earth then who would care where it came from?  we have or had a great oppertunity to send a space probe to encounter this asteroid, what a wasted oppertunity to find out exactly the answer to your questions CD.

[cee-dee]

If it hits, it's not big enough to cause World Wide problems, just the area it happened to hit.

http://www.space.com/19686-asteroid-2012-da14-earth-flyby-nasa.html

[cee-dee]

A bit of info about comparisons of size of objects actually hitting the Earth on here:-

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/science/130207/asteroid-2012-da14-flyby-earth-q-and-a

[spawnjohnuk]

The astrid aside (ad I hope it don,t land on me).

I heard te sciece world had got to grips with being able to force carbon rods ino planes core to release oxygen on to planets like mars,hence creating an atmosphere our lifeorm can thrive in.

Total recall style.

Have you cd or pete heard of this or was programme I saw potty delusion lol.

If real science ,well....

I agree with pete on missed chance on asteroid btw.