Sleeping beauty should be banned from schools?.

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Is this the future, one or two people object to something so it'll be banned.

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That's been happening for quite a while. Like....:- A Church clock has been striking for 200 years, a new resident claimed it was keeping him awake so the Church stopped the clock striking at night!

 

I guess others could add their own illustrations of such a thing?

 

 



It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.

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Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses
And all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty Dumpty
Together again

 

can humpty  sue the king for not getting trained medical help

Petal
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He needs Injury lawyers for you! 😀 I remember as a kid we used to play conkers which is now banned from school playgrounds and we used to collect acorns and whip them with a stick at each other, boy you got accurate with them too. I am now worried that someone is going to come out of the woodwork and sue me for lasting emotional or even physical abuse, What Can I do to make it right? Thank you
Worried white middle aged man from the countryside
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'middle aged'???

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lol

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Marge, I think the five minutes of fame is what it's all about. Though there do seem to be a lot of idiots around.  I strongly object to "PC" stupidity, can that be banned, please?

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So does this mean we are going to have "Snow some sort of colour and the 7 vertically challenged people" as well, or will it be banned also for one female living with 7 males and the sexual connitations that could infer ?

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marg*e, it makes you wonder about what sort of sick mind she has when she can construe something like that from an old fairy tale !

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In response to our resident Toilet Roll I can confirm that officially I am middle aged and not yet drawing a state pension do kindly Lol off and read this:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19622330

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Being a tolerant and kindly person, I can only assume that the lady referenced in the opening post is several sandwiches short of a picnic unusually upset by a traditional tale.

 

However - take a look at the end of the article.

 

Kate Edwards, chief executive of Seven Stories, the national centre for children's books , argued stories like Sleeping Beauty have an important cultural and traditional role to play, and shouldn't be lost - but they can be 'played with'.

 

She then goes on:

 

"We would also point to a lot of retellings of Sleeping Beauty, like The Worst Princess, which keep elements of the story but with a very empowered princess."

 

To paraphrase the late, great Dorothy Parker - otherego fwowed up...

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Says Mr Andrex lol

 

Some obviously forget what they have posted elsewhere, but let me just reference potty, who said Mr Andrex and he were about the same age. Potty said that quite a few years ago now, when he had already been retired some time

 

Yes I read the 2012 BBC article on some survey, pity others didn't apart from  briefly focusing on the age number

It said and I quote 'Previous studies have pinpointed the start of middle age as early as 36.'

So a movement to 55 is quite a leap, but then since those surveyed were over 50

 

Had it been a survey of all age groups what do you think the age of 'middle age' would be? - almost certainly substantially lower

 

Last I looked Preston was an  'an urban settlement', I doubt a bit of green or some forest exactly qualifies as 'countryside'

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My oh my, why bring up someone who no longer posts on here, that sounds potty to me, furthermore there is a significant difference in age between him and I which if you were less selective with your tea rolling you would know. And finally and in the interests of clarity I do not live in Preston and I have never worked at James Halls, so I future please get your facts right or if in doubt ask, I will be more than happy to confirm the odd occasion when you are correct in your forensic examination of me!
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Loads of these People are perfectly happy to have the Bible in schools - The Old Testament is way worse than Fairy stories

 

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I wonder if She's ever read the original Sleeping Beauty stories

 

A King finds a Sleeping maiden in the woods, rapes Her, He keeps returning to 'visit' Her, she has a kid, He takes the child. Then repeats this a further couple of times. He then discovers that the Maiden was actually His daughter, He takes Her back to His castle to live, She wakes up, then stays to look after the Kids as Nanny,  but without anyone informing her of Her past.

 

To top it off,  Years later, The King Marries one of the Kids, Who is actually His Granddaughter/Daughter

 

I have studied, the roots of Fairy tales, most are equally as lurid and some are really barbaric, go and check the very old versions of Cinderella, Edgar Allan Poe would be proud of them

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Hmmm, yeah most of them are grimm....laughing

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Since virtually no one posts here anymore it would leave an awful lot to exclude, something others don't follow themselves I notice, perhaps give a link to previous objections eh ? lol


Why would studio lie?, and why would anyone consider their self-declared best Internet friend would do so? Seems awfully bad manners to me to make that unfounded accusation 


That is indeed what he said and Mr Andrex didn't contest it at the time, in fact potty went on to describe Mr A at a later date as, and i quote,  ‘an elderly priapic'.

 

I dare say most who live in Preston wouldn't claim to, if they could avoid it, but again we go back to the same multiple sources and in fact the horses mouth itself. I well recall a discussion which revolved around Mr A explaining why he preferred living not in the centre of Preston but outside


Lol ah yes the preorders, I hear they had a clear out, sad but there it is.. 

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A number of so-called 'childrens stories' do have rather dark background and dubious back stories, but this is what is effectively a 'non story' cheap, churned, meant to play to a certain audience to obtain a Pavlovian type reaction.As to it's original source I would be rather cynical on it's veracity

 

 

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And Joseph went up from Galilee to Bethlehem with Mary, his espoused
wife, who was great with child. And she brought forth a son and wrapped
him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger because there was no
room for them in the inn. And the angel of the Lord spoke to the shepherds
and said, "I bring you tidings of great joy. Unto you is born a Savior,
which is Christ the Lord."
"There's a problem with the angel," said a Pharisee who happened to be
strolling by. As he explained to Joseph, angels are widely regarded as
religious symbols, and the stable was on public property where such symbols
were not allowed to land or even hover.
"And I have to tell you, this whole thing looks to me very much like a
Nativity scene," he said sadly. "That's a no-no, too." Joseph had a bright
idea. "What if I put a couple of reindeer over there near the ox and ass?"
he said, eager to avoid sectarian strife.
"That would definitely help," said the Pharisee, who knew as well as
anyone that whenever a savior appeared, judges usually liked to be on the
safe side and surround it with deer or woodland creatures of some sort.
"Just to clinch it, throw in a candy cane and a couple of elves and snowmen,
too," he said. "No court can resist that."
Mary asked, "What does my son's birth have to do with snowmen?"
"Snowpersons," cried a young woman, changing the subject before it veered
dangerously toward religion. Off to the side of the crowd, a Philistine was
painting the Nativity scene. Mary complained that she and Joseph looked too
tattered and worn in the picture. "Artistic license," he said. "I've got
to show the plight of the haggard homeless in a greedy, uncaring society in
winter," he quipped. "We're not haggard or homeless. The inn was just
full," said Mary. "Whatever," said the painter.
Two women began to argue fiercely. One said she objected to Jesus'
birth "because it privileged motherhood." The other scoffed at virgin
births, but said that if they encouraged more attention to diversity in
family forms and the rights of single mothers, well, then, she was all
for them. "I'm not a single mother," Mary started to say, but she was
cut off by a third woman who insisted that swaddling clothes are a form
of child abuse, since they restrict the natural movement of babies.
With the arrival of 10 child advocates, all trained to spot infant
abuse and manger rash, Mary and Joseph were pushed to the edge of the
crowd, where arguments were breaking out over how many reindeer (or
what mix of reindeer and seasonal sprites) had to be installed to
compensate for the infant's unfortunate religious character.
An older man bustled up, bowling over two merchants, who had been busy
debating whether an elf is the same as a fairy and whether the
elf/fairy should be shaking hands with Jesus in the crib or merely
standing to the side, jumping around like a sports mascot.
"I'd hold off on the reindeer," the man said, explaining that the use
of asses and oxen as picturesque backdrops for Nativity scenes carries
the subliminal message of human dominance. He passed out two leaflets,
one denouncing manger births as invasions of animal space, the other
arguing that stables are "penned environments" where animals are
incarcerated against their will. He had no opinion about elves or candy
canes.
Signs declaring "Free the Bethlehem 2" began to appear, referring to
the obviously exploited ass and ox. Someone said the halo on Jesus'
head was elitist. Mary was exasperated. "And what about you, old
mother?" she said sharply to an elderly woman. "Are you here to attack
the shepherds as prison guards for excluded species, maybe to complain
that singing in Latin identifies us with our Roman oppressors, or just
to say that I should have skipped patriarchal religiosity and joined
some dumb new-age goddess religion?"
"None of the above," said the woman, "I just wanted to tell you that the
Magi are here." Sure enough,

 
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Smiley LOL

Petal
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It was just getting interesting Smiley LOL

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