Sir Jimmy Saville

[thecollectorssurplus]

No thread about this on here, so I thought I'd start one. 

My starter for ten is this: Okay, I'm not saying anybody is making anything up, but why did all these people wait till he was dead before accusing him of all this stuff? And quite frankly, now he's dead, what can come from it other than tarnishing a reputation that was spotless and upsetting his grieving family even further. Seems basically wrong to me. Why does someone always have to bring down our heroes and role models? They should have done what they're doing now ten years ago or not at all if you ask me.

Nick

[al**bear]

I see  He was banned from appearing or taking part on the BBCs 'children in need', because of his reputation

[renomarvinm]

I am unfamiliar with British procedures, so I ask this next question in all innocence, though I imagine that it will open a can of worms.  The question is this:  Who, or what agency nominated him for high honors and knighthood, and will there be any repercussions because of having done so?

[al**bear]

The Vatican gave him their highest honour a Papal Knighthood, at the request of the Catholic church of England & Wales , and  Governments 72 till 90 over time, gave him awards up to his Knighthood. All for His "for charitable services". He raised over $50mil for charities and volunteered at many Hospitals, where he worked for free.

He was never off our TVs from the late 60s till into this century .

[al**bear]

So Saviles estate is to be frozen , it is believed to be £4mil,

Lawyers for numerous victims, say they are going to sue

With so many victims, the total number of lawyers will be high

I'll bet £4mil , wont stretch much further than their combined fees, so victims will get very little.

[tommy.irene]

I am unfamiliar with British procedures, so I ask this next question in all innocence, though I imagine that it will open a can of worms.  The question is this:  Who, or what agency nominated him for high honors and knighthood, and will there be any repercussions because of having done so?

Why should he lose the awards he was not found to have done anything wrong in his young days..

[**caution**opinion_ahead]

Tommy, people rarely start that kind of behaviour in old age.  It tends to be a life time's pattern.  As I understand it, there have been complaints from way back surfacing.

[cee-dee]

Freddie Starr arrested now.

[cee-dee]

They've bailed him.

[al**bear]

I see Saviles pal, Cardinal Keith O'Brien , has been voted bigot of the Year

[joe_bloggs*]

A tweet from Iain Overton Editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:

"If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."

https://twitter.com/iainoverton?tw_i=264308253033381888&tw_e=screenname&tw_p=tweetembed

[electric*mayhem*band]

I see Saviles pal, Cardinal Keith O'Brien , has been voted bigot of the Year

So will Savile be voted, 'The Most Prolific Pedophile of Last Century' ?

[al**bear]

A tweet from Iain Overton Editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:

Find sounding name for a bunch of Marxist bloggers 😉

But Overton is a Journalist

[al**bear]

^Find = Fine^

There was a big investigation into leading politicians, police, Civil servants & celebs being involved in a Peado ring at the end of Thatchers time in power.

results kept secret

Edwina Curry outed Paul Morrison ex Chester MP and Thatchers Top aide as a serial abuser of rough trade 16 yo rent Boys (illegal then) in her autobiography.

[jimbo1lee]

OH! GOD, When is it going to END ?

NOW Leonard Rossiter  is being accused of being a Perv as well now,

They may as well accuse every celebrity in the world and have done with it,

The whole issue is SOOOOOOO! Boring now.

[tommy.irene]

They were no angels: Headmistress's cruel dismissal of the girls abused by Jimmy Savile (and she claims no-one told her what he was up to)

Schoolgirls molested by Jimmy Savile were dismissed as 'delinquents' yesterday by their former headmistress.

Margaret Jones said some of her pupils at Duncroft Approved School were 'no angels', and had traded sex for cigarettes.

Some were coming forward now with 'wild allegations' about abuse only to make money, and had only themselves to blame if they had not complained at the time, she claimed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227086/They-angels-Headmistresss-cruel-dismissal-girls-abused-Jimmy-Savile-claims-told-to.html#ixzz2B9ZtnRn9

[kiss*my*pixel]

Ohh, Tommy - I so hope you don't really mean that! What a horrible thing to say, and what a horrible thing to make a joke of.

These young girls were vulnerable, often had come from horrid lives, often might have been seriously ill. If they were in an approved school, there was surely a reason for it, and they had come from one horrible life into another. Out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak. How utterly awful that their "Headmistress" did not believe them when they spoke out, and instead were themselves blamed for the predicament they found themselves in. Despicable. It truly makes my blood run cold.

Poor girls - that evil man. I am not a religious person, but if I could believe in a place such as Hell, then I could only hope he burns down there for infinity and beyond

[5129frederick]

So now we've got Leonard Rossiter up there as well, have we?  All I can say is thank God he wasn't tied up with Battersea Dogs Home!  God knows WHAT the papers would have insinuated had he been raising money for a dog's home!

As Elvis Presley replied when questioned about paternity suits being flung all over when he was around:

"I take it as a measurement of my success.  Nobody wants anything off you if you're a penniless bum!"

As I said earlier, you wait until Mick Jagger kicks the bucket.  You'll still be hearing about it aafter I'm pushing up the daisies!

[tommy.irene]

Ohh, Tommy - I so hope you don't really mean that! What a horrible thing to say, and what a horrible thing to make a joke of.

These young girls were vulnerable, often had come from horrid lives, often might have been seriously ill. If they were in an approved school, there was surely a reason for it, and they had come from one horrible life into another. Out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak. How utterly awful that their "Headmistress" did not believe them when they spoke out, and instead were themselves blamed for the predicament they found themselves in. Despicable. It truly makes my blood run cold.

Read my post again.. i said a lot of people are in it for the money and i believe he groped people. I took the bottom part off your thread incase i get a slap..

[kiss*my*pixel]

Not quite with you there, Tommy. Why would you expect to get a slap from the last part of my post? I'm very surprised you didn't get one from the last part of yours (no 155), which I was referring to in my "Oh, I hope you don't mean that" post (and trying to be polite about it. Even so much as groping young and vulnerable children is no laughing matter, IMHO.

Perhaps this thread has taken a turn for the worse, in terms of sense of humour. On that basis, I'm out!

[fraag0141]

OK

F.Starr accused of groping but at present its just one accuser.

Outcome- One 2 one denial means its likely Starr will be found not guilty by reason of insufficient evidence.

J.Saville

Accused of many things and by too many to be coincidence but now dead so A cannot be held to account or B Refute the allegations

Outcome- Guilty

Still got a long way to go obviously ,so maybe best to see how it all develops

Chances of someone in the higher echelons of the BBC being prosecuted? Unlikely.

Interesting to see how the newspapers (certain papers especially) have taken this matter.I reall which hunt as it takes the limelight and public gaze away from their own shocking practises.Hacking .lying etc