Brexit never gonnae happen they way you think!

[celticthebhoys585]

Never in a way you brexiters thought it would. All the chamelons have been exposed,tight majority vote.Country and goverment in chaos.

It's the money men that will decide as always! What made you think they'd let the people decide-never have done in centuries!

[celticthebhoys585]

Well I prefer to take this view which was commented at the time. - https://www.elhblog.law.ed.ac.uk/2015/06/01/oh-flower-of-scotland/

It's all in the poetry man.

I hardly think The Little White Rose would have been allowed to have been inscribed etched on the side of the Scottish Parliament building now would it if referring to Jacobitism-or maybe not! lol 

[celticthebhoys585]

Brexit or No brexit- and we thought politics in UK couldn't get any lower- http://archive.is/HWspz

[lambsy_uk]

“Plough your own furrow, don’t be Sheep.”

That’s strange coming from a committed trade unionist!

[joe_bloggs*]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46714984

 A handful of immigrants landing on the shore had more shipping capability than this company ,No ships? No business track record? What could possibly go wrong?

More Tory dodgy dealings ?

[celticthebhoys585]

France and Germany- only but two in Europe have over 100,000  apllications for asylum or settled status every year and deal with it.

We get a couple of dozen migrants on a few dingy's and it's a major incident- bloody ridiculous.!

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Regarding the contract fiasco-

Don't worry all will be fine.As long as you know F all about shipping/importation/logistics your in the position to make loads of cash- at the end of the day that's what its all about.They don't give a tosh and the dafty's will follow them-Tory and Labour nutters.

Can't see the wood from the trees.

[celticthebhoys585]

Here we go May bringing theScottish devolution and Ww

[celticthebhoys585]

Here we go May bringing the Scottish devolution and Welsh Assembly thing into it in Stoke speech. 

Does she think we're bloody stupid! This women lies are disgraceful. Scotland voted for devolution in 1979 with the exact same margin as the Brexit result 52-48 % and it was ignored by Thatcher.Not until another near 19 years had past when we voted again it was 74%- 26%  

Westminster makes me puke 

[astrologica]

Celtic.....I am in agreement with you today! The woman's lies are astonishing. I don't know what planet she lives on, but it isn't the same one as us. At the Welsh Devolution referendum, turnout was only 50.22% of eligible voters...not much enthusiasm there then. The result was 50.30% for, 49.70% against. So Wales had to accept an assembly which was voted for by roughly 25% of the population. And we did accept it..we didn't complain and whinge and try and reverse the decision..Democracy in Action. But to this day, the only people who have a good word to say about the Assembly are the people who work there.....probably the 25% who voted for it!

The shenanigans in Westminster are disgraceful, shocking and unbelievable at times...but I do believe she is underestimating the mood of the people who voted Leave.

[upthecreekyetagain]

Personally I have no feelings either way with regards to the Welsh National Assembly other than to say if the three other countries have Parliaments or Assemblies then England should have one as well.  It is wrong for instance, in my opinion, that three members of the UK should have sole control of how the NHS operates within their boundaries whilst England doesn’t.

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2017-09-18/twenty-years-on-would-wales-vote-for-an-assembly/

[cee-dee]

Well I think it's madness for the main island to even consider having three "separate" countries never mind three parliaments. They're not countries, they're just regions. Three parliaments? Waste of money.

As for Ireland, it also is one island, nuff said?

[joe_bloggs*]

Luckily we have defence secratary Gavin (private Pike) Williamson ready to take firm decisive action if needed against any worky tickets !

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/gavin-williamson-suggests-firing-paintballs-at-spanish-ships-in-gi...

"Gavin Williamson suggests ‘firing paintballs at Spanish ships in Gibraltar’ 

[celticthebhoys585]

This is exactly why the people of Scotland will have their day-people with views like this-disgraceful.

Do you even understand what the makup of the British Isles is? I doubt it very much-silly silly draconian comment again from you! 

[celticthebhoys585]

England has EVEL.So the failings of your NHS is nothing to do with us in Scotland-talk to Westminster. 

And you use the Act of Union as a defacto English parliament which it isn't .Some of you just don't get it. 

Read the Act of Union, then you can comment of constitutional matters- otherwise say nothing at all.

[cee-dee]

You want your separate little corner of the island, OK we'll have a proper wall to keep you lot back and stop you lot leeching off the rest of the island. You can keep your hostile, aggressive attitude up there and welcome to it.

[astrologica]

Now, Now folks....keep it nice! I think the EU can bear the blame for a lot of the bad feeling between the four nations. Their push for us to have our own Assemblies and be separate, but not Independent Nations has caused a lot of bad feeling. Divide and Conquer...

[celticthebhoys585]

Maybe you need to do a wee bit of reading before making stupid statements. 

I tend to look before i speak, here's one; 

- http://www.businessforscotland.com/westminster-charges-scotland-billions-of-pounds-in-service-costs/

You can believe what the masters say in Westminster all you want but they'll always talk mince about how it works- GERS being there propaganda tool spewed out every year with lies and falsehoods to make the south think they give us loads of money from that big (pot of gold) stored under Westminster . 

Scotland raises more in taxes sent to Westminster than it gets back in GERS- fact! Independence would mean we keep our own taxes MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS and spend it the way we want and you can do what the hell you want down there with your money.

The money sent to Scotland as part of GERS is not a gift -we raise in income taxes more money than GERS allocation and you keep more than is given by us in income tax back 40%+ more and have the cheek to charge us National debt for items not spent in Scotland.

There's just a wee snippet -now think on it.. There's no hostile aggressive attitude from me-just my passion from a country fed up of being leeched by the likes of Westminster for 300 years+-   

[cee-dee]

For "passion" read hostile aggression.

Antoninus and Hadrian had the right idea. We'll get DT on the wall job and make those marauding Picts pay for it.

[upthecreekyetagain]

It’s not true that Scotland raises more in taxes than the total of Public Expenditure in Scotland.

It may be more than is allocated for the Scottish Parliament to spend but that is not the same thing as much of the expenditure in Scotland is centrally controlled by Westminster, as it is for the rest of the UK.

The oft quoted Act of Union left control of the defence of the Union for instance to the Westminster Parliament.  Some of the cost of this has to be borne by each of the members of the Union.

The latest report issued by the Scottish Government titled Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland 2017/18 quotes the following figures:-

Total Revenue, (including geographical share of North Sea revenue) - £59.95 billion

Total Expenditure - £73.4 billion

That is a difference of around £13.5 billion or put another way public expenditure in Scotland is 22.5% greater than the revenue raised in Scotland.

[celticthebhoys585]

Never said such a thing. I never said money raised just from income tax was equal or greater than public expenditure .

GERS is a Westminster concept produced paper designed to show Scotland as a basket case and adds all sorts of nonsense expenditure that is not spent in Scotland to skew the figures.This has been going on for years since Ian Lang introduced it. 

Income tax raised is just a part of it. All i said was income tax raised is more than the cash flow budget given backin Barnett formula.. We want to do it by ourself- that's what indepenence is about. You wouldn't like it if your next door neighbour borrowed money for his new car in your name but you weren't allowed to drive it -but you'll pay back all the repayments + interest,now would you!.

[fallen-archie]

Why can’t we work as one on this rather than split an already small country into bits? Loads of Scots live and work in England and vice versa , why can’t we just get on and stop all this fracturing?