Brexit never gonnae happen they way you think!

[celticthebhoys585]

Never in a way you brexiters thought it would. All the chamelons have been exposed,tight majority vote.Country and goverment in chaos.

It's the money men that will decide as always! What made you think they'd let the people decide-never have done in centuries!

[fallen-archie]

I did not support Brexit or the break up of the Uk. I certainly don't think the interference of Salmond does anything to bring people together.

[astrologica]

Just because YOU don't want it to happen, doesn't mean it won't happen. We shall see.

[joe_bloggs*]

Good old rant from James O'brien:

Leavers Led Us Off A Cliff, Then Legged It

http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obrien-ridicules-leadsoms-black-ops-claim-133615

[evoman3957]

Well this one didn't " Leg it " I'm still here, along with the other 17 million + people and prepared to march on parliament; if they don't carry out the will of the people........AND on those that only want democracy, when it gives them what THEY want...........they're no fellow countrymen of mine.

[joe_bloggs*]

March on parliament eh? just as well the new London mayor is flogging off Boris johnsons water cannons

[evoman3957]

Kinda depends how important this country is to people isn't it, if you're just one of the dogs with a big mouth; who spends their life talking the talk, but never has the plums to walk the walk.......then you don't deserve the life, or freedom, that you've sponged off of this country all your life. If it's worth living in, then it's worth defending.........and that includes from the " enemy " within.

[mikes*corvettes]

Amongst the 17.5 million people who voted out there are plenty of Tory voters who have become very disillusioned with the tactics used by Cameron and co.

If they now try to backtrack it spells the end of the Tory party and they know that.

[023mjc]

There's only one bloke who ever went to parliament with the right idea...............

Guy Fawkes.

[fallen-archie]

And it is thanks to him that the phrase was coined " For Fawkes Sake" What a Guy 😎

[celticthebhoys585]

It won't happen the way you think. What you don't get is these lot will do what they want and make money. What you want is IRRELEVANT to them - sooner you realise that the better .

[astrologica]

Nice.

[theelench]

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@mikes*corvettes wrote:

Amongst the 17.5 million people who voted out there are plenty of Tory voters who have become very disillusioned with the tactics used by Cameron and co.

If they now try to backtrack it spells the end of the Tory party and they know that.

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I'd go even further and say that if they try to back-track both the main parties will be in trouble.  There's a sizable chunk of the electorate disillusioned with both parties and want change.

Since 2008 it's become apparent to more people than ever that those at the top take the lions share of the benefits when times are good but don't suffer with everyone else when it comes to paying the bills when things go bad.

Add to that the sense that even when times are good it is because the quality of life for the majority is being eroded to maintain that prosperity, even though they gain so little from it, and you have a situation where a majority don't believe that society as it is is working for them.

The referendum was a vote for change and if there is any back-tracking then things will get very interesting I think.

[upthecreekyetagain]

A hypothetical, albeit not all that unlikely a scenario.

A general election is called in the Spring - this can be achieved by 2/3rds of the House voting for an election.

The party winning the election has included in its manifesto a resolve to stay in the EU.

Which takes precedence, the referendum or the General Election result?

[fallen-archie]

If the winning party won by a landslide throughout the uk then it would have a mandate. If it won with say 33% of voters supporting it then it would not, unless other parties also seeking to remain in Europe tipped the balance so that the majority of voters wanted or accepted the status quo.

[upthecreekyetagain]

If you are saying that none of the governments since the last war have had a mandate to carry out any of their manifesto commitments then I agree with you.

In my opinion this is the major reason that the party political system in this country is undemocratic - no government can carry out the promises made during an election without going against the wishes of the majority.

The same is true of referendums - take the last one for instance - there were three main arguments - immigration, economy and sovereignty - how many felt that either side won all three arguments?  Personally I voted on the basis that I thought the remain economic argument was more important than my views on immigration which were closer to those of the leave side and I was ambivalent on the question of sovereignty.

No matter how the Brexit decision is managed by the government it is unlikely that the majority of those who voted will be satisfied.

[mikes*corvettes]

Reading some of your posts since the referendum, during the last great war you would have been classed as a fifth columnist.

[upthecreekyetagain]

???

[lochay_maiden]

I was on the fence re May becoming PM. 

I am not a Tory but the Tory grass roots members did not vote her in. Cynic in me says MP's decided who they wanted without having to ask grass root members

Now she has appointed BORIS as foreign secretary. 

There will be no election campaign and we are stuck with them for nearly 4 years! 

Sorry but this has just enforced my belief that MP's will do what they want and disregard the public who vote them in. 

Labour leader election will be interesting, as MP's do not want the current leader but grass roots voted him in.

I wanted out of Europe but I fear what is going to happen. Can our government please get their acts together and listen to us the people or do they intend to disregard our views!

[mikes*corvettes]

If David Davis the new Minister for Brexit follows through with what he said earlier in the month, It will all work out okay.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-davis-who-is-minister-for-brexit-theresa-may-new...