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Hi I've just received this message contacted ebay and is being sent to everyone 

 

That's me I'm done no more ebay for me bye bye

 

We are making changes to the way we process payments on eBay. Going forward, we’ll make your funds available for payout within 48 hours after we’ve confirmed delivery of the item. Until then, you’ll see a “hold” on your funds. This process helps keep our marketplace safe.

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Absolutely correct.  That's why I'm now withdrawing funds as soon as they are available.  eBay doesn't trust me, why should I trust them,?

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I'm putting my lisings on hold from Feb 4th for a month.

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It must have been just another Ebay glitch because its now back to saying the 4th Feb

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Same here.  I'm also pruning my listings drastically with a view to stop selling altogether.

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I'm going to end my high priced items and keep listing my low priced items.
Ebay are going to loose custom from private buyers but I don't think
they'll care with all the interest they'll be earning.
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ebay seems to me there making rules up as they go along the longer they keep our money the more they make

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Agree this will be ebay's downfall. Experienced sellers will disappear but there will be newbies. I rarely buy from new sellers without feedback. Buyers will have poor experiences (poor packing, items not as described etc) and will stop shopping on ebay. My last purchase from a new seller was an outfit described as 'Jacques Vert' which turned out to be 'Roman' (for those not in the know, Jacque Vert is more of a designer brand which sells at a higher price). The seller forgot to pack the fascinator in the listing, so had to send out separately. Normally I would have considered returning as 'not as described' but felt sorry for her as she had incurred huge postage costs and made very little money. It did remind me though of why I tend to avoid inexperienced sellers.

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I always send my items tracked (no matter how low the sales price) and state "tracked" on the listings. It stops scammers claiming non-arrival. To send an item which sold for £130 untracked is very unwise - I feel sorry for the seller. They may of course have sent it tracked, but not marked the listing as such. 

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Same,

 

learnt the hard way about not using tracked services. It’s very easy to be a scammer as a buyer on eBay. 

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They may not care to start with but I wonder sometimes if ebay thinks further forward than the next 13 weeks?

 

A good many private sellers are selling next to nothing already, mainly because they are less likely to Promote and get little or no visibility.

Something sells, they wait patiently 14 days for their payment.  It's sent to their Wallet on day 15.  (Does the "Withdraw Funds" button work perfectly now?)

Hopefully it does and ebay sends the balance to the seller's bank.

Another couple of days for it to arrive?

That makes at least 17 days from sale to getting their money to use themselves.

 

Who knows they might even have sold another item by then and start the process all over again.

 

Yet ebay, when they're not telling sellers to Promote, Promote, Promote, they're telling them how important  it is to send stuff to buyers Quick, Quick and even Quicker.

 

Don't ebay believe their own propaganda?  "Buyers who sell are likely to buy twice as much as buyers who don't".

 

Does ebay REALLY think private sellers / buyers will put up with being harried to Promote, drop everything to dispatch every purchase according to ebay's  schedule while their payouts get slower and even s-l-o-w-e-r  (and smaller if they they take the bait and start paying ebay for some visibility).  

 

It won't take long before a lot of them realise that it's a mugs game and a lot of work for very little return.  It won't take much longer for them to work out that ebay makes money on the payment hold, on the delivery options, on the Promotion fees and is, in all probability, making more out of a "Free to Sell" transaction than they did when the private seller actually paid them fees of 13.2%.

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@theelench wrote:

 

 

A good many private sellers are selling next to nothing already, mainly because they are less likely to Promote and get little or no visibility.

 


 

@theelench 

As a matter of interest, did you get the £15 worth of free Promotion offer in the last couple of days?
It suddenly popped up on my Seller Hub yesterday (private seller), saying it started on 17 Jan, but when I clicked in for more details, it said accept by 15 Jan! (I'm not planning on using it).

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I may sell a load of stuff and then never post it!  Let Ebay deal with their own mess.......

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I don't know, I haven't looked at my Seller Hub since my listings finished before Christmas and before Free to Sell was announced.

 

IMO promoting a listing might be valuable and even useful to sellers in competitive and crowded markets.  But should not be necessary for one-off vintage collectables like I sold (or tried to).

 

I saw what was going-on with Promoted listings in '23 when I offered a rare "Brandenburg" bowl, made by Walther & Sohne at a very reasonable price and not only did it not sell (several times) but hardly got any views or interest.

 

Walther is a very collectable inter-war German glass maker, anything out of the ordinary is guaranteed views by collectors just looking at something they have probably only seen before on reference sites or in books.  But not on ebay these days,  I'm convinced that no-one saw it because I didn't Promote. 

 

That year I sold 13 items, the year before I sold 13 items, the year before nearly twice as many.  In 2024 as ebay tightened the screws to make selling increasingly difficult without Promoting, I sold 4 items.

 

That's why I stopped selling and I guess that so did many other private sellers.  Hence the latest changes.

 

Free to Sell, but only if you promote.  More restrictions on delivery options, so ebay can make money.  BPF, same again.  Holding funds same again.

IMO it's all smoke and mirrors, re-arranging the deck-chairs but ebay still makes its money and without promoting private sellers will still sell next to nothing.  

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As a matter of interest, did you get the £15 worth of free Promotion offer in the last couple of days?
It suddenly popped up on my Seller Hub yesterday (private seller), saying it started on 17 Jan, but when I clicked in for more details, it said accept by 15 Jan! (I'm not planning on using it).

 

I haven't received any free Promotional offers at any time and certainly not one for January... that being said I refuse to "pay to  promote" when  visibility should already be 100% anyhow, otherwise it is not an online marketplace for sales it's just for listings. 

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If that offer is genuine from eBay then I think it’s a real red flag of times to come. I see many posts about eBay promotion and lack of visibility over the past few months.

 

sadly my cynicism is getting the better of me and I am starting to believe that items listed do not get the visibility that they used to. 

if that’s the case then the decline of eBay is a sad one and it’s going to become a desolate place soon.

 

tempted now to put one of my items on promotion and see how the trend and views change.

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Why change something that's not broken, if the High Street Shops acted like this where would we be its not fair and is loaded so that Ebay more money from sellers, totally wrong thing to do, seriously thinking about calling it a Day withEbay after 20 Plus years,

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I tried promoting as a test.........nothing changed

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For sure... and what about the messages of " Lets improve your listings"

The following listings aren't performing well – but you can change that. We've curated recommendations designed specifically to improve the chances of selling the items below.


Current performance*

7921

IMPRESSIONS
Decreased by 68.76%

130

PAGE VIEWS
Decreased by 70.39%

0.77%

CONVERSION RATE
Decreased by 32.46%

 

 

So, their recommendations are  to improve photos, reduce despatch time and offer returns. 

 

Photos are good, no need to offer returns I am not a shop and my feedback speaks for itself, despatch time is to assist me to be able to service my customers the best that I can (  5 days but I post between 2 and 3 usually ) I have never had an issue in 17 yrs, with an above standard private account, and yet now " automation analytic algorithms"  want to show me how to "improve" my current performance? 

 

The previous one I had was " pay to promote" to boost my sales. 

 

Further I am not interested in any " conversion figures" as a private seller, I am not monitoring a business. It just seems it is to " cover" for real views, real watchers with real interest,  and real sales. 

 

eBay does not appear to be an active online marketplace for real people. 

 

Edit - spelling. 

 

 

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@vintique*violet wrote:

The previous one I had was " pay to promote" to boost my sales. 

 

Further I am not interested in any " conversion figures" as a private seller, I am not monitoring a business. It just seems it is to " cover" for real views, real watchers with real interest,  and real sales. 

 

eBay does not appear to be an active online marketplace for real people. 

 

 


What you've written is a summary of why ebay is a mess and in the mess that it's in.  Until very recently it was, one step at a time, intent on becoming a business sellers site and constantly pushing private sellers in that direction with it's metrics, analytics and above all pay to play (promoted listings) all designed for businesses.

 

Real people were relegated to 'background noise' by one CEO as ebay became top-heavy with businesses all trying to make a living off decreasing numbers of 'real people', who were deserting ebay as fewer of them found selling here anything like worth the time and effort involved.

 

All ebay has been doing for years has been kicking the can of its decline down the road by coming up with one smokescreen after another rather than address the real issue.  That is that it's Private Sellers that make a site viable, when they thrive so do the businesses that live off them.  Without them it will fail.

 

It sometimes seems to me that the only "private" sellers that ebay likes and encourages are those that are businesses already, just pretending to be private sellers.  They seem to be the only ones that ebay isn't trying to push towards becoming business sellers.  And look where it's got them.

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It's Tuesday, 4th February.  Normally I would be looking at my listings this morning, maybe relisting (or "selling similar") making some adjustments or perhaps listing one or two new items.  Instead, my account is on Time Away (for the max 30 days) and I am taking down listings and thinking about stopping selling on eBay altogether.  Happy with that eBay?  Like as not you are.

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