This is going to mean the end for many small private sellers. "Buyer Protection Fee"

[vinylscot]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/buying/paying-items/buyer-protection?id=5594

75p plus 4% buyers fee, so something which was priced at £5 will be £5.95 in February.

[papso22]

How many private sellers send invoices requesting payment?

The buyer will see the fee itemised at checkout, which is where most of them will pay, as they do now.

The fees cannot 'increase turnover' for the private seller unless that seller is not really a private seller.

I don't think they have alerted accounts that are not selling accounts to the fees, I suspect they will do so at the end of the month.

[a45heaven]

dont all sellers send invoices following requests, especially on combined sales requests.

ebay welcome both kosher and not private sellers. It would be good to see a projected layout of the Invoice - 

Does the fee begin to be reaped on Feb 4th? - so that gives 4 days of warning - 

maybe sellers should start warning the buyers now , as some sellers respect their customers.

[elizpo47]

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[socknroll]

As a business seller, I still seen this been *bleep* for individuals, you know, what this site was actually built for. They are going the Amazon route very slowly and will be screwing all low selling third party businesses next.

[maujohwai]

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@socknroll wrote:

individuals, what this site was actually built for

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Very good point.

[kawas67]

most of my purchases are low value from private sellers and I#ve never had
a problem. I cant see why I should pay extra for second hand!

[incredible_how]

yes as a customer it's a bad deal, I often buy low cost items - postcards, stamps etc from private sellers and 75p on each of those will stop that! Perhaps if there are a number of items sellers would be prepared to relist as a bundle, but they might not even list single items. I won't!

[hideawayvideo]

With the other new rule - eBay not paying the seller until after receipt from buyer?  How will this work?  Assuming the seller uses tracked a lazy postman that dumps the item because no-one is in or cannot be bothered to obtain a signature.  How do eBay know the parcel has been received and what happens to the sellers funds in that instance?

[buffster1963]

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@hideawayvideo wrote:

With the other new rule - eBay not paying the seller until after receipt from buyer?  How will this work?  Assuming the seller uses tracked a lazy postman that dumps the item because no-one is in or cannot be bothered to obtain a signature.  How do eBay know the parcel has been received and what happens to the sellers funds in that instance?

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If tracking shows delivered you will get paid two days later. Fir untracked items ir items that do not delivered you will be paid after 14 days if no disputes are open. 

[tsdragon63]

If eBay are relying on the customer saying they have received it we can kiss goodbye to probably 50% of our sales, it's hard enough getting feedback - that's why I'm not selling anymore from the 1st Feb.
Back to Preloved and Facebook marketplace ( maybe eBid if I can find out more about it)

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[buffster1963]

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@tsdragon63 wrote:
If eBay are relying on the customer saying they have received it we can kiss goodbye to probably 50% of our sales, it's hard enough getting feedback - that's why I'm not selling anymore from the 1st Feb.
Back to Preloved and Facebook marketplace ( maybe eBid if I can find out more about it)

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Ebay are not relying on buyers to say they have received it. It will all be done on tracking, nothing else. 

[hideawayvideo]

So what will happen if a lazy postman delivers the packet regardless, because no-one is in or no-one answers the door?  This happens often with all couriers and posties.

[hideawayvideo]

So, essentially I would get paid after 14 days - just at the mercy of the conmen as per-usual?

[kath3735_wxmjn]

not just on tracking!  If tracking says delivered you get the money then, if no tracking you get it 14 days later.

[tsdragon63]

So for me it will almost always be untracked because I tend to sell 99p items or very low price, I can't afford to pay postage so my customers pay and tracked isn't an attractive option for them.

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[johnwash1]

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@tsdragon63 wrote:
So for me it will almost always be untracked because I tend to sell 99p items or very low price, I can't afford to pay postage so my customers pay and tracked isn't an attractive option for them.

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Ebay are setting their new fees to discourage very low price sellers.  Except for the Chinese tat, which is probably getting bulk fee deals from ebay and certainly getting postage much cheaper due the Universal Postal Union rates.  Outrageous.

[grantbananaz]

What is going on?? Seriously.. 

Why the fees ebay.. Again? 

They make enough money from their paid ads, the money resting in their accounts from buyers accumulating interest in investments etc.

The amount of cash passing through their grubby mitts will total billions. 

Ebay are just becoming greedy.

Their tv ads are aimed at people who want to "get rid of stuff" (private sellers). I'm a private seller, selling things I make for small prices , along with stuff to declutter.

Why put a charge on buyers?

What a load of old fanny! 

[papso22]

Why do you think the definition of a business , 'makes things to sell', doesn't apply to you?

It has nothing to do with quantity, value, or whether it's a 'hobby', by the way. 

These upcoming changes don't affect members trading on a  ebay business account.

[game_raid]

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@grantbananaz wrote:

Their tv ads are aimed at people who want to "get rid of stuff" (private sellers). 

That is what a private seller is meant to be doing, getting rid of stuff they no longer need or use instead of their items being thrown away, sent to landfill or whatever hence the reason of the targeted ads at these people.

Making small items to resell is a business so you're either one or the other on a single account.

eBay allows people to have a private account to sell unwanted items and business account to sell items that they have made or bought to resell.

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[grantbananaz]

I'll tell you why. 

Because I make things in small amounts, sporadically... 

Low priced items.

I don't make enough to sell to support a "business"

Nor do I expect to do so.