Sellers Unite Against Simple Delivery

WE MUST FORCE THEM TO ABANDON THIS STUPID, DANGEROUS, RIDICULOUS SYSTEM! I REFUSE TO SELL UNTIL THEY REMOVE IT.  THEY ARE DOING IT TO FORCE US INTO MAKING A BUSINESS ACCOUNT! THEY ARE IN THE GOVERNMENTS POCKET! FROM THEIR OWN SUPPORT!

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Umm - no need to shout!  Using caps is shouting and it's a bit 'wude'!

 

And how do we force them to do that?  We all have a choice.  Either stop using this platform to sell or change to a business account.  But who knows what's in the future - they could eventually force business sellers onto Not-So-Simple-Delivery as well.

 

I don't like Not-So-Simple-Delivery because it's very restrictive.  But eBay have spent millions to pay their IT geeks salaries and contracts with RM & Evri.  Time will tell whether their new business practice will be successful.

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They are expecting buyers to use common sense, it wont happen. 

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I'm sorry, but that is just plain ridiculous!

Ebay are forcing you to change to a business account, really?
Do you know how many "private" accounts are abusing the system by being private accounts when they shouldn't be?  And they are not being forced into it.  Does that not tell you anything?  I wonder why people are doing that?  hmmm
So do please tell, how exactly are you being forced into a business account?  Just because you don't want to use the system that they have in place for you?

And I would love to know how you think that they are in the governments pocket?
I mean, where does that even come from?  Because of the need to provide your NI number?
If so, then that means that ALL of the online marketplaces are in the governments pocket!

If your going to complain, don't do it in a shouty, we will make you listen mode, but do it in a constructive and thought out method.

 

 

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eBay made the same mistake when they introduced Item Specifics, allegedly to improve the searching process. In theory, it may have worked, BUT, they never told buyers about it, so the potential benefit was lost, and the standard of the search function plummeted even further.

 

They have done much the same with SD. In theory, it's a decent idea, but it's nowhere near ready to be released into the wild. And once again, buyers are receiving very little information about it. I have sold about a dozen items under SD now, and I reckon I've had problems with half of them. In every case, the buyer wasn't being awkward, or even just plain thick; they had just never had the process explained to them.

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If the changes force fraudulent businesses to registrar correctly and fulfil their LEGAL obligations then bring them on.

 

As for Simple Delivery I think it's great, and it helps my Buyers as e-Bay often under-estimate the cost that they pay.  I've got something on now that the Buyer will pay Small Parcel rate for even though it's a Medium saving them more than the BPF increased the price.  Under the old system my price would be higher as well to recover the Seller Fees which, again, would have been more than the BPF.

Cacas vendit.
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Sorry for possibly being thick here but what problems have buyers had with SD, I've only purchased 1 and it went as smooth as pre SD, the only thing I can think of is if they were wanting multiple items but a simple message to you saying can you do a listing for xyz and ill buy all together would have solved that instead of them needing to pay for postage for each one.

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@mackingcrazy   wrote ( well shouted!)...    THEY ARE IN THE GOVERNMENTS POCKET! FROM THEIR OWN SUPPORT!

 

Umm, in my humble opinion,   the Government has far greater problems on hand ,  than dealing with little ol' issues in comparison,  with an American behemoth Company !  🤔

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But how would they know they needed to send that simple message, when it could all be done with refunds post-sale previously?

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I sold 2 items recently, 2 ps5 games, used simple delivery, royal mail lost both items, all i got for compensation was 8 first class stamps and a £12 cheque. 

 

Now i sell my old tech, I build PCs for myself, I sell the old parts to upgrade to the new ones, I refuse to use basic post that is not insured to the value of the item, I have been on eBay for 15 years check my feedback, I have never had an issue with using custom delivery and i do not think it is fair that eBay gets to dictate how items are shipped. You only have to look at these forums to see how many people have been scammed or messed about with items sent with simple delivery. 

 

The system is a good idea but the idea needs refining, any company that thinks EVRI is a suitable delivery company tells you all you need to know. At the end of the day its all about control and they spin it as oh its helping you, no its not its helping them. Buyers should have the option to post how they want the safest option, i use couriers and special delivery because the items are insured, Tracked 48 is only insured up to £150 , why would i use that to post an item that is valued at 4x that? its stupid. 

 

Then you have the scammers who will abuse it, say oh deliver it to a safe space and then bam case opened it has not arrived again that is all over these forums, and we end up out of pocket because eBay sides with the buyer most of the time.

 

Yes im angry but it is the way of the world, they want to control everything, let the sellers decide its as simple as that, my guess is they done this because people have been moaning about postage costs. They need to add express as an option then it might work, I wont sell on here until they do and lets be honest a lot of people feel the same way.  Another thing they could do is let you decide who you sell to based on what postage the buyer selects, its a flawed system is all im saying.

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Because they are, they have come for online selling sites because they want their piece, its outrageous forcing you to upload your NI number, They want you to make a business account thats the only reason 

 

And yes I am aware of the abusers and that is exactly why this is happening.

 

I dont want to use a business account because I am not a business and dont appreciate it being forced upon me if i want to continue selling. 

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If these items were sent by Simple Delivery, eBay would have covered the refunds. You would not have been involved at all.

 

This is also the case with the situation you outline in your second last paragraph.

 

SD does have some good points.

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It is NOT eBay forcing you to add your number.  It is the government.  Ebay have no choice about it.
In just the same way, that every other online marketplace has to do the same thing.
If you have a beef with it, then you need to direct that beef at the government and not Ebay.


So the fact that you know that you can get away with giving them a dodgy NI number says that you have done exactly that.  And I shall report you, as you are breaking the law by doing so.


You do not have to use a business account, unless you are a business.  It's as simple as that.
You are NOT being forced to.
Do you have no idea what it's like to sell anywhere else?  It's just as restrictive and in fact can be considerably more so, depending on where you sell.
There are several places now that make you use their postage method and only payout when they are ready to.  It's not just an Ebay thing at all.   Basically what your saying, is "unless it's my way, it's wrong!"

It's very simple at the end of the day, if you don't like selling on here, then go elsewhere.  Making a big shouty statement will not get you very far at all.

 

 

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I have done no such thing. but go ahead. 

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Well they didnt

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Then prove it.  
The only way that you can prove something like that, is by doing it.

 

And don't be telling people to break the law.  It's far from Ethical.

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Not giving my NI here, I gave it months ago, begrudgingly i may add. 

 

But look online you will find it.

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This is the reality of Simple Delivery for me, and I dare say this is repeated across tens of thousands of private ebay customers up and down this land. 

 

I live in a busy market town, where we used to have three Post Offices in the past - one in the historic centre, and two on the two large estates that grew up around that.  Now there is just one very small one in the Centre operating business hours so if you happen to work for living, that is a real PITA - and getting Royal Mail to pick up is no more useful for the same reason.  Even if I could get there, a Post Office visit is gonna take 30 minutes out of my life - even I drive it, because parking is a PITA too.  

 

EVRI parcel shop was the Tesco minimarket in the centre so at least you could go there on an evening, and I have done so many times for more bulky/valuable items I'm getting rid of, including through Simple Delivery.   Except that I found out when a buyer chose EVRI this morning that Tesco have STOPPED being the parcelshop for our town some time over the last 2-3 weeks and no-one else has taken over. So I have had to get in the car and drive to the next town to post something today which has not left me in the best of moods. 

 

It isn't Simple Delivery per se that annoys me. It is the mandating of it when it simply cannot work in certain geographies, for some people, and some types of sale.   

 

@thepillenwerfer  Sorry, I can't agree with you that this issue has anything to do with business sellers masquerading as private sellers. ebay has always had the data-mining capability to deal with that issue - but it simply chooses not to.   The well publicised data sharing with HMRC (or simply the threat of) will go some way towards discouraging side-hustling anyway.  

 

 

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Yep, That 2, There was no need to change the system, It was not broken to begin with, People have used it and taken the items to the post office and they cant even scan the labels, its just a flawed system thats my biggest issue with it. 

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I never asked for your NI number.

I asked you to prove the statement you made.

 

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