NO LONGER SELLING DUE TO SIMPLE DELIVERY

[rugbyguy1960]

AS OF 15TH APRIL MY DAYS AS A PRIVATE EBAY SELLER WILL STOP AFTER 19 YEARS.

I AM FED UP OF THE GREED OF EBAY AND I HOPE OTHER EBAY SELLERS DECIDE TO NO LONGER LET THE EBAY CONTROL FREAKS HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL OVER PRIVATE SELLERS.

[debbidooda]

To be honest, this situation has driven me to that!

I'm usually the quiet one in the corner.

[akemp1]

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@gmij1961 wrote:

Where as BPF is deeply cynical even it wasn't part of the eventual  sell for free vision .  There is a bit of me that thinks that someone in Ebay genuine thought Simple Delivery was brilliant innovation  and everyone would  love it   It could BFP  was a hasty decision when they realised if they  don't charge seller fees  where does the money actually come from !  

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I also think they might have thought that broken delivery would have taken the sting out of the buyer tax by pushing down the overall postage prices that buyers see to help make ebay items more attractive. It might have worked if they had been able to do a deal with RM on making tracked 48 the default option - it was such an error to go with Evri and be seen to penalise people for using RM.

I also think the original free to sell idea might have worked if they had given it more time to attract the people from the other place across. The money was supposed to come from the private sellers using ebay as 'their goto' to make purchases from business sellers etc.

But they gave private sellers too many free listings each month and even let them run shops, business policies, etc and there was no incentive for traders to register as business sellers and start paying fees.

[rugbyguy1960]

Believe it or not so am I normally and I'm normally a softy but certain things just get you to the point when you think enough is enough.

[edwardian-dreams]

I also think the original free to sell idea might have worked if they had given it more time to attract the people from the other place across.

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maybe 

but no no on two fronts

1) the other place is easy and quick to use by far  and doesn’t control visibility vs dinosaur ebay

2) the other place isn’t so controlling about postage….they have heaps of carriers at v good prices and nothing is forced on you 

but  all have to be tracked so not great for cheap light items that people like to post for under a couple quid 

[akemp1]

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@edwardian-dreams wrote:

I also think the original free to sell idea might have worked if they had given it more time to attract the people from the other place across.

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maybe 

but no no on two fronts

1) the other place is easy and quick to use by far  and doesn’t control visibility vs dinosaur ebay

2) the other place isn’t so controlling about postage….they have heaps of carriers at v good prices and nothing is forced on you 

but  all have to be tracked so not great for cheap light items that people like to post for under a couple quid 

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I'd agree ebay needed to make other improvements to keep up with the other place.

I don't think either of them has got it right on the speed of listing and capturing the right amount of item specifics. The other place doesn't ask enough which makes it hard to find things and ebay ask way too many irrelevant or obscure item specifics. I do wonder how many ebay decision makers 'dogfood' and actually use the site themselves.

On large letter I don't see the need to pay for tracking beyond the dropoff and delivery confirmation you get for free with a printed label. I believe RM are secretly tracking all items enroute incase they get lost you just don't get to see those middle steps if you don't pay for tracking.

On the visibility, 'broken' search and sponsored listings it might just be a case of ebay accepting that it's no longer in a position to keep trying to grow new revenues it's now just a fight for survival on the core business as buyers (and sellers) can no longer be assumed to turn up and put up with ebay's nonsense when there are other places they might go.

[edwardian-dreams]

Be  that as it may I make more sales  there that’s the proof of the pudding 

[fantailsforme]

I checked on my listings and found that one item I have that weighs under 100g and would fit into a small envelope and advertised at £8.99 was made SD because I have it on auction with a BIN.  The BIN price took it just over £10 so I took it down to £8.50 and the SD was automatically removed.

[fantailsforme]

Forgot to mention - when I took it down to £8.50 I was able to lower the BIN price.

[dvd.for.you]

Is the under £10 & under 100grams loophole only on letters or is it on large letters or even small light parcels, I post DVDs for £1.55 as I can keep my DVDs & packaging under 100 grams, I see when choosing simple delivery now , when you look at the 100 grams part it only applies to letters 0.5 millimetres thick or under . So I hope the under £ 10 & under 100 grams include large letters at lest when opting out of simple delivery, my selling is going to suffer either way but if the opting out part does not include large letters I think I am probably have to call it quits to, also I had to change all my listing 3 to 4 times since November last year and this is all because of eBay changes,. It’s a joke , they wasted you time, give you less control over your own selling, and force you to use there postage system which is much more expensive & with worse options, I can not see how it’s possible to continuing to sell on eBay, 

[kath3735_wxmjn]

I understand that but the alternative is going to work out very expensive if this keeps on happening to him and others.

[kath3735_wxmjn]

no, i have a dog (have had them in the past though!)  My sister has five and i know exactly what you mean...

[gmij1961]

So Ebay consider the £10 limit to be the sellers price plus BPF . So  what that says BPF is proportion of the sale prices and is therefore a  blatantly sellers fee . 

[forestfeline62]

Ebay make us wait for payment ,so in my sons case yesterday he went to send a parcel SD but the evri parcel shop in tesco express didn't have any labels for the print machine and even if they had had the guy said there was problems with scanning the label behind the counter ,so now he hasn't been able to send his parcel ,so he has now got to wait untill he can post the parcel ,then wait until it arrives at buyer then another 2 days untill payment ,it is disgusting ,and he certainly isn't going to try and send parcel with royal mail and then ask the buyer for the money back for the RM label  like ebay suggested .What planet are they on ?

[craddockcourtsales]

Since I started listing (only 30 items) with SD and then sending out (only 6 items) using SD I have been very happy with the procedures and prices, for my limited number of transactions.

My objections to the system are :

If Ebay are right and the SD system gives a better service and a better net price (the cash in my pocket whoever pays what on the way) for me then I am happy to use it, I do not care how much they earn or lose, its not my problem. But why force me to do it – if it continues to be as good as they promised then I would make the sensible adult decision to use it anyway.

I fully realise it looks stupid for me to go into a Post Office and hand over cash of £6.55 to get a 2kg tracked medium parcel delivered with me taking all the risks, rather than use a SD delivery for £3.71, but I am an adult who can pay more if I want to, for whatever reasons, stupid or not. I do not need protecting

If Ebay are right and

• Once they show me the price for the SD service it can never cost me more even if their AI assessment is wrong. (I am happy to make reasonable adjustments)
• Once I drop off the parcel, in good well packed condition, then my involvement has ended, and I have effectively delivered the parcel. Ebays choice of courier is irrelevant to me after that, because
  • Ebay are saying they will take full responsibility, they will deal with any problems, give me positive feedback and not let buyer say anything adverse – no matter what disputable contract law may be

then it is so good I would choose it, I do not need to be forced to do so.

If my involvement ends when I drop off the parcel why is my part of the money paid by the buyer not paid to me there and then – I have fulfilled my side of the deal.

Please Eve Williams, why is it mandatory not merely you offering me a good product?

[wiganyankeeron]

What is the procedure it a Buyer buys an item then asks if they can collect it?

[sunflowers4me59]

On the announcements it says they are separating letter and large letter on 21st April so obviously there is something they have up their sleeve! 

[forestfeline62]

My son is usually very placid too but this muck up has really p..sed him off big time .

[craddockcourtsales]

Sorry  I do not know - it has never happened to me. I live in such a rural location that although I offer free collection it has only happened three times, that I can remember. in 20 years.

[silentpool]

Do you think eBay may have an agenda. From its founding it has morphed into something entirely different. I truly believe it just wants to become a platform for business sellers and do away with the private individual selling their unwanted goods. And a sure fire way of achieving that aim is to make things extremely difficult for the individual. The bigger picture is I can see the local Post Office in rural locations that often struggle to make ends meet being less than overjoyed when people start showing them QR codes and no money is handed over to them. Can’t really see anything in it for them but grief .

[akemp1]

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@silentpool wrote:

I truly believe it just wants to become a platform for business sellers and do away with the private individual selling their unwanted goods.

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I'm sure they would love that but they are too weak to compete with the massive jungle company etc without the private ebayers making things interesting and creating footfall.

As can be seen now that the private ebayers have been annoyed and are going elsewhere the business sellers are complaining of no sales.

Ebay have to keep private ebayers happy or there is basically no ebay. Young people in the UK don't seem to signup to ebay anymore it's just people stuck in their rut. Ebay have a problem as their old private seller fees were too high but are now taking the wrong medicine.