26-12-2024 3:40 PM
I had a CD removed from my listing stating it's not following eBay Counterfeit item policy. I appealed as it's an official item alright, with photos showing all details of the item right down to the code on the disc and including reviews and confirmation from different sites. The label that released the item is now defunct so I can only assume it's another seller that reported it so after my appeal was rejected I didn't know what to do but report the other 4 items that were identical to mine on sale still on eBay to try and find out what the difference or issue was. It's the first time I've had an issue like this. I've had an almost automatic response saying there were no issues from the other items. I was selling my item cheaper than any of the others if this makes any difference. Probably not. What can I do at this stage?
26-12-2024 3:45 PM
Certain artists refuse to allow their items to be sold on eBay, genuine or not genuine
If they ask eBay to remove the items you will be send the "counterfeit item" email but it doesn't mean the item is counterfeit, just that the Verified Rights Owner (VERO) has asked eBay to remove all items
There is one particular artist from the 80s who refuses to let eBay sell any of their items and has all of them removed (hint: "behind the green door")
Do not relist the item, you will need to sell it elsewhere as eBay won't allow the sale on their website and you could get banned if you relist
26-12-2024 3:50 PM
Thanks for replying. This circumstance you kindly provided wouldn't explain how the 4 other identical items are still currently on sale from different sellers though. The item isn't of any big artist. It's slightly rare likely due to it being the only CD release and the label now being defunct.
26-12-2024 3:52 PM
@thomasboat wrote:I had a CD removed from my listing stating it's not following eBay Counterfeit item policy. I appealed as it's an official item alright, with photos showing all details of the item right down to the code on the disc and including reviews and confirmation from different sites. The label that released the item is now defunct so I can only assume it's another seller that reported it so after my appeal was rejected I didn't know what to do but report the other 4 items that were identical to mine on sale still on eBay to try and find out what the difference or issue was. It's the first time I've had an issue like this. I've had an almost automatic response saying there were no issues from the other items. I was selling my item cheaper than any of the others if this makes any difference. Probably not. What can I do at this stage?
They haven't been reported or found by the AI search yet.
There will always be other banned items that haven't been removed yet or that get missed.
It doesn't mean you can list the item unfortunately. Try another site.
26-12-2024 7:06 PM
I wonder what would happen if you clicked on 'Sell a similar item' from one of the other 4 still on sale? Not worth getting into trouble over, of course. A frustrating situation though, especially not knowing exactly why your item was reported. You would think if one was removed, all other copies would automatically be removed, too.
27-12-2024 8:31 AM
I'm guessing now. That may have worked. I also may have made a mistake including the Label name in the item header. 2 of the other items have a made up label ref and say they are from Japan when there was only a UK release.
27-12-2024 12:08 PM
That would explain how the other items are 'getting away with it'. In eBay as in Life...
There is one particular artist from the 80s who refuses to let eBay sell any of their items and has all of them removed (hint: "behind the green door")
There is lots of their stuff currently on sale & sold... if I'm thinking of the right person...? 😄
27-12-2024 12:28 PM
Maybe he has given up reporting them, as it would surely be a full time job!
27-12-2024 12:50 PM
You probably are - his initials are SS. I must have been on here way too long as I can remember when SS's displeasure was originally highlighted on a thread on this forum (or was it on Q&A?) Very entertaining it was too.
What remains to confuse me though is - if I was of a mind to buy a spanking new SS CD/LP (perish the thought), say from an HMV shop - why I cannot sell it at a later date? It would be mine, paid for (so S---y gets his royalty). Surely I'm free to do with it what I like?
27-12-2024 12:55 PM
Yes, he probably just got quiffed off with it...
27-12-2024 2:53 PM
The Shakin' Stevens issue has only ever been for certain items of his. The hit stuff he generally doesn't have an issue with. He only throws his toys out the pram about certain earlier recordings where he had some sort of legal wrangle over the rights when they were reissued IIRC. Not interested enough to google the exact details. He's also been known to get stroppy about unauthorised biographies where he makes silly demands about stating very clearly in the description that it's unauthorised. Seems to have too much time on his hands to get his knickers in a twist about pointless stuff.
@thomasboat what was the item that you had removed (you are allowed to say what it was here)? Then maybe we can shed some light on the issue. Not everything that was originally sold through major legitimate outlets is actually fully legal product - which is usually the cause of the issue you're having and is a fairly frequent topic here.
27-12-2024 3:08 PM
Kooga - Across The Water (CD) 2008 KRECD26 Krescendo Records
27-12-2024 11:44 PM
Krescendo's another one of those labels like Fallout, Radioactive etc where the legality was always questionable despite being sold and marketed as legit and licensed. Krescendo used to be Majestic Rock which is also known as decidedly dodgy.
With these labels, whether a title gets pulled as counterfeit or not largely depends on how proactive the original artist/rights owner is. Most times, titles will slip under the radar, especially as the item and packaging are professional - you can't tell from looking whether the label has properly licensed the product. But every now and then, an artist will take issue with what are effectively pirates, and will start exercising their rights.
Tbh I'd take it on the chin as it was probably never legit in the first place. Usually, the more obscure the artist, the less chance that labels like this will have tracked down the rights holders to license it.
As for ebay not removing other listings, they virtually never act on reports made by random members. They're well known for automatically and almost instantly responding to all reports, however glaringly obvious the policy breach is, with a "no issue found" reply. It's just what they always do. It's not worth wasting your time reporting anything. Ebay also never act fairly or across the board when they remove items. Unless it was a VeRO takedown, which the message you received should state, then you'll never know who reported your listing or why. Just don't relist it as you're now on their radar and repeated removals will lose you your ebay account.