Ebay confirms when Simple Delivery will be Mandatory

[wintersdawn1]

Someone else posted this as a reply to an existing thread but thought I would post it separately.  It appears to be taken from one of ebay's terms and conditions pages but I do not have a link.

 

[f3verdog]

ermmm what about electronically/digitally delivered items?

[buffster1963]

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@f3verdog wrote:

ermmm what about electronically/digitally delivered items?

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The ones that are actually allowed to be sold do not need postage so it will not apply to them anyway. 

[cobwebcottage]

'ermmm what about electronically/digitally delivered items?'

They shouldn't be sold on a private account. You should be registered as a business and then you wouldn't have this issue.

[mr_mrsgb]

Get some *bleep* and stop selling on ebay. Let them sink, i just deleted all my listings and started a new account on vinted. I will never pay £4.50(£3.40 real price non biz) for a RM small parcel NEVER. NEVER £10.50 for a 10kg RM PARCEL WHEN IT'S PRICE IS £7.50. I rather sell on vinted, on buy even aliexpress but i won't let them steal from me like this.  Just ridiculous fees, no sense, none of them. That's it for me. Amazon and vinted here i go, long day ahead. 

"desperate times call for desperate measures"

Hippocrates

[reg091]

If there was a realistic alternative auction site for selling miscellaneous stuff then I would willingly dump ebay.

[parsley2003]

Well i am giving Ebid a chance anything better than this and ripping off my buyers for a grubby dishonest company to make a profit

[parsley2003]

Good luck for what i sell it's Ebid i'm trying. 

[f3verdog]

"The option to opt out will only be available for items under £10 and weighing 100g or under."

I dont even pay attention to the default weights of items, as I dont make use of it.  For small items be sure to set it under so should be able to not deal with the faff.  eg some v small items I can fit in a regular envelope

[parsley2003]

Will be brought out during the coming weeks 🤣 what like invoicing might come back within 90 days?  They keep trying to get us to wait, and wait, for things that will never happen, trying to stop a mass exodus at once

[mr_aitch]

"The option to opt out will only be available for items under £10 and weighing 100g or under."

is this for buy-it-now only?
because for an auction you won't know the final price
(for clarity ... i've been selling my childhood stamp collection which consists of auction lots under 100g and usually selling for less than £10, but occasionally more)

[f3verdog]

no idea.  I'm not sure if I'm going blind or what, but I'm testing editing both an existing listing, and trying to create a new listing, and I cant even seem to see where to put weight or dimensions in at all any more?

[barry.110]

On the Custom Postage they have taken away the part where you can add the weight and parcel dimensions.

[department28]

"The option to opt out will only be available for items under £10 and weighing 100g or under."

I don't see how they can suddenly change the postage arrangements, if, as with your example, a 100g auction item tips over the £10 threshold. Or can they?!

This has taken confusion to a new level...😕🤕

[f3verdog]

also, does the £10 include the daft amount of buyer protection they also add

[department28]

Yes, that's a good point. Can only hope someone can clarify these issues... probably only after we've all gone mad... 😖 

[akemp1]

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@akemp1 wrote:

I'm surprised Stupid Delivery would not be considered by the EU etc anti-competitive as they are basically using their dominance in the online resale market to stop us buying postage from anyone else.

Similar to how Microsoft used their dominance with Windows to get everyone using Internet Explorer. At least Microsoft didn't go as far as to technically prevent us from installing Netscape Navigator.

Ebay are giving us no choice but to buy their postage on most items. They are presenting it as us still having a choice of their supplier carrier but we really have no choice but to buy postage from ebay even if it's more expensive than buying direct from Royal Mail etc.

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Given most EU laws were taken into UK law during Brexit do you think it's worth buyers and sellers making the UK's Competition Markets Authority aware of the potential market abuse by Ebay UK when SD becomes mandatory?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tell-the-cma-about-a-competition-or-market-problem

[dansvan1]

It might be in the contact seller section. That's where I found the specific couriers listed, but only when you select to ask seller about postage. Usually it's Evri as standard and Royal Mail Tracked 24 as Express.

[reg091]

My wife has sent three PS5 games recently (three different buyers). She doesn't use ebay often so it seems she has taken the default Simple Delivery option (she tells me the buyer chose the postage so it must be).

I have taken those to the Post Office so I know they were all standard 2nd class.

Two of the three buyers have claimed non-receipt!

With no tracking she has no option but to refund.

How is this a better system??

[buffster1963]

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@reg091 wrote:

My wife has sent three PS5 games recently (three different buyers). She doesn't use ebay often so it seems she has taken the default Simple Delivery option (she tells me the buyer chose the postage so it must be).

I have taken those to the Post Office so I know they were all standard 2nd class.

Two of the three buyers have claimed non-receipt!

With no tracking she has no option but to refund.

How is this a better system??

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Everything through simple delivery is tracked so second class would not have been an option. Lost parcels through SD should also be refunded by Ebay, not the seller. Was your wife sent prepaid labels or did she select to buy her postage through Ebay by clicking on buy postage after the sale? 

[reg091]

Puzzling as she said she just chose the default option, which when I set up a dummy listing to see how it works is Simple Delivery. All it lets you do is select a weight from four choices and then choose if buyer or seller pays the postage. When you choose buyer it tells you "the buyer will have a choice of postage from £2.74." You don't get to see the options presented to the buyer.

She printed the labels at home, which were RM 2nd class.

(My bad on the refund: I assumed she had to pay the refund, but I guess she wouldn't have had the funds from the buyer if they are now being held until delivery).