05-01-2025 6:42 AM
05-01-2025 6:54 AM - edited 05-01-2025 7:00 AM
Business sellers pay full final value fees which often add up to 12.8% Is that a good enough reason?
I guess you want all the same perks as a business but want to sell without fees? From what I've read you are still getting fee free selling, it is up to you if you wish to absorb the buyer fee or pass this on.
Did you honestly think that there was never going be some sort of fee? It was the world's worst kept secret.
You should be happy that you have had 3 months of paying no fees, all that extra profit must be a nice bonus because that is all that it was a bonus.
05-01-2025 8:34 AM
I said the same,they want rid of private seller's there trying to fizzle us out,well I say good !! because the last 6m have been shait on here, it's a wonder there not charging us for there time ,they sold us another gimmick, ebay are crooks and I'm done with them.There incouraginng p seller's to buy tracked postage, I've always bought tracked or signed for,and guess what I have many delivered items not marked as delivered. There hell bent on making it difficult for us and I definitely don't support it,the amount of money we loose for lost in transit, missing, and non delivered parcels, you rarely get compensation, it should be a pri seller's choice to have seller'sprotection, there gradually going to be controlling all pri seller's we'll have no say .
It just makes you wonder why they keep fiddling with private seller's policy's.
05-01-2025 8:42 AM
Huh! and while this was a free gimmick, you haven't noticed sales are down then ? people are not buying not even second hand stuff, so while you suggesting pri sellers had a good run, we actually haven't.
You wait because though private seller's will drop off and you'll be coving that loss, be careful what you wish for.
05-01-2025 8:52 AM - edited 05-01-2025 8:59 AM
Yes, our sales were down because of the businesses abusing private accounts to undercut us, it is well documented across a lot of sellers.
I am not sure what loss we will be covering?
We don't rely on eBay for our sales, as like most businesses we have multiple revenue streams, it's not wise for any business to have all their eggs in one basket.
05-01-2025 11:09 AM
@game_raid Private sellers were not asked if they would prefer " free to sell" & a levy on our buyers or to keep things as they were, which by all accounts seemed to be running smoothly...
Please do not confuse genuine private sellers with those who masquerade as private BUSINESSES to avoid fees, they are totally different and not one genuine private seller can compete with a genuine Business. This is not a new thing since the " free to sell" , many have jumped on the band wagon by opening new accounts, but there have been private accounts running businesses here for donkeys years. eBay did not address it then nor now.
Many acknowledge that these " private business accounts" create a huge problem for genuine businesses selling the same/similar items whereby they can undercut because they are not abiding to this platforms rules thus avoiding business costs. This is an issue for eBay, they have created, unnecessarily so, disgruntled Business sellers due to the fact that they are not addressing the " masqueraders" ... Why? as they certainly have the tech and resources to do so.
Genuine private sellers pose no threat to business sellers, whether they pay fees or not - the market is NOT comparable in any way.
You speak of extra profit for the past 3 months - Why would you be concerned with genuine private sellers making a buck or two from their own pre-loved/unwanted items? This is what built eBay initially and paved way for the "entrepreneurs" to run businesses who take on any extra risks and responsibilities to be a business owner; not all businesses succeed, some are smaller than others, some are niche or choose to sell mass-market items and some make a very good living or are greatly successful in their endeavours ... all in all eBay gave them a less risky " start-up" ( for those who do not have their own website or physical shop) or an opportunity to grow their already existing business. Private sellers are simply selling off what they no longer want/need, whether it be through a move, family circumstances, bereavement, downsizing or to earn extra to pay a bill or food!...some enjoy the interactions ( this was moreso in the early days ) or call it " hobby " selling, ( not to be confused with making own items & selling ) a way to be active/occupied perhaps as pensioners or the disabled, or just for pleasure or a reason to get up in the morning - it matters not the reason, and there is not one size that fits all, they are individuals who have chosen eBay to sell and/or buy and now eBay are making it more difficult for them to maintain their account as they have been accustomed, fitting it around their lifestyle ( There is life outside of eBay!) and from my point ( as I cannot speak for everyone) all these changes and lack of choice/ restrictions etc is pushing us to " work" as a business, and I for one, cannot fulfil them, not will not, but unable to for personal circumstance/reasons! They have moved the goal-posts and basically its a "do this and fit in with this" without any concern for those who have been loyal for decades and how it would impact! There are no perks, we certainly do not want or should have to jump through "business" protocol when we are not businesses! The latest changes are causing a hindrance, confusion, distrust and stopping many people from continuing to run their account safely and with integrity, through no fault of their own.
eBay state that small private sellers make up a greater proportion of eBays sales by purchasing from others ( businesses and private sellers) on the platform. This revenue will be lost as many small private sellers are now reevaluating their positions and the cost to them, due to the new " rules" and I am not talking about "profit"... although that would have been "nice" if potential buyers could actually view items to purchase - the lack of visibility, views, watchers, offers and sales have fallen off a cliff, even at what was supposed to be the busiest times of the year... it is not something which is just affecting businesses, it has affected us all.
I would also like to say this - I have read a great deal of posts on here, many from experienced " eBayers" business and private who offer valuable information/knowledge, who take the time to assist others who are new or unsure and require some guidance. Generous with their time and knowledge , some are like an " encyclopaedia of eBay " some may not know all the answers, and they show actual kindness towards others in their responses, something which has not gone amiss and only highlights those in the " community" who unfortunately can not see how their replies/ approach towards others, fall short of understanding the human psyche. This " community" are assisting eBay without payment or a " thank you" from any employed staff, when the actual responsibility lies with eBay and it should not be their " customers" job particularly now when there is so much discourse.
05-01-2025 11:59 AM - edited 05-01-2025 12:02 PM
I have not once compared a genuine private seller to a business that is abusing the system, we were down sales wise due to these businesses using private accounts, not once did I say that a genuine private seller has affected our sales, if I have please highlight this.
If you read some of my posts I have many times shown sympathy for the low valued item private seller because it's obvious they are no longer wanted.
The OP is complaining they want to have the same perks as a business seller, it can never be a level playing field where one seller is paying 12.8% and another is paying 0%, why should a private seller have the same terms as a business? We are paying for the privilege in the form of fees and shop subscriptions to have instant payouts and to use our own couriers, there is nothing stopping a seller changing to a business if they prefer to work this way, they can't have it all I'm afraid, eBay created this not the sellers so we will all have an opinion.
People seem to think as soon as they change to a business they will have to start paying tax or start employing people, deal with VAT etc etc, most will not even have a liability at the end of the year, the self assessment is a simple form, money in money out for a small seller it's the HMRC will determine who is a business when the reporting starts, they won't even know about the sellers account status or even care.
The fee free selling was never going to last so yes private sellers have had a bonus over the last few months, every single sellers wants to maximise their returns, I would of been over the moon with having a period of not paying fees and would have made the most of it, like I said it was the world's worst kept secret.
It is totally wrong what has happened and the fee free selling should never have been introduced, because they have taken it away on one hand and passed it back with the other and caused mass confusion.
eBay work on data and they will have all the metrics on sellers that sell things for a £1 , they will look at sell through rates, historical spend on the site and have made the decision that they are no longer needed for growth, it's sad but true.
I am also a private seller and days gone by used eBay to pay bills, holidays, living expenses so I know all about being a private seller and how it can help a person.
I will also have the payment holds on my account, I have no issues sending the item tracked, waiting 48 hours to get paid and I also have no issue with the fee and will price accordingly if it sells it sells if it doesn't it goes to charity.
I have been a member with eBay for over 22 years, I have also done things internally with eBay over the years which I won't go into, I know only too well about private sellers and what they can offer to the site.
05-01-2025 12:33 PM
Its definitely a charade, I mean who wants to sell something, post it out and then wait for payment 😅. I've just deleted a load of my listings as I can't sell with these terms and conditions.
Every private seller should just delete all their listings as from February and Ebay will be bare.
Silent protest!
05-01-2025 12:35 PM
The OP is complaining they want to have the same perks as a business seller, it can never be a level playing field where one seller is paying 12.8% and another is paying 0%, why should a private seller have the same terms as a business? We are paying for the privilege in the form of fees and shop subscriptions to have instant payouts and to use our own couriers, there is nothing stopping a seller changing to a business if they prefer to work this way, they can't have it all I'm afraid, eBay created this not the sellers so we will all have an opinion.
Indeed why should a genuine private seller have the same perks as a business... this is a bone of contention, they should not and never have for the 17yrs I have been here. Businesses take the risk and the associated business rules and this includes fees and is their choice, you are not paying for a " privilege" you are paying because you are a registered business on eBay. Private sellers do not have/hold stock, business wholesale contracts, or perhaps the business acumen etc ... the list goes on... they also should not be pushed into " business terms" as these are now going to destroy what the genuine private sellers have built which is mainly their reputation as a good, honest seller...GENUINE Private sellers are not getting away with free to sell, 3 months of no visibility and zero or minimal sales does not line the coffers; they are now hit with further restrictions... and they indeed are restricting genuine private seller accounts on many levels... I do not believe it is to " weed" out the " masqueraders" as these are a different entity altogether and that IS eBays problem to sort, they may have " profited" for a short time by avoiding business fees which shows their lack of integrity, something which eBay has shown also by " profit over people" .. the very people who have made eBay a success... and without would be dead in the water. We all need to unite instead of nick picking or not making it clear in our responses what/who we actually mean and focus on our own way forwards, either with eBay and complying or not. There's nothing, it appears, no matter what complaints or points raised to eBay will change ( at this moment) they choose not to " hear" eBays decision is largely to appease their stakeholders and not the small private seller or even a small business - look how many non UK business accounts are popping up... this is a UK site and yet it has global accounts?
Hopefully HMRC will catch up with the private Business sellers, but I am not holding my breath as its always the " little man" that takes the fall.
05-01-2025 12:35 PM
I didn't mind paying a fee for selling as a private seller, nothing is free! BUT I do mind a crook company holding onto my funds and making a fortune in bank interest!!!!
05-01-2025 12:41 PM
Absolutely agree!
I am not even sure this is legal?
It certainly isn't lawful!
So many stories on here whereby eBay are holding onto peoples funds unless they " do this or that" in the name of " due diligence" or " to validate" or " to keep the marketplace safe"... accounts whom have been registered for years and years who already have proven their credibility and eBay hold their banking details and personal details etc, yet now have 100's and some !000's of their funds on hold indefinitely!
I do not fee eBay is a safe place to sell or even buy anymore.
05-01-2025 2:21 PM - edited 05-01-2025 2:22 PM
@salmo468 wrote:EBAY DONT WANT PRIVATE SELLERS ANYMORE, WHY CHANGE PRIVATE SELLERS PAYMENT SYSTEM AND NOT DO THE SAME TO BUSINESS SELLERS ? ITS ALL A CHARADE STARTING WITH THE 'FREE' SELLING FOR PRIVATE SELLERS WHEN ALL ALONG IT WAS JUST A CON TRICK. GOOD BYE EBAY .
People have been saying this for 20 years about eBay. New private sellers keep coming along all the same.
Also is your caps lock key stuck?
05-01-2025 2:25 PM
The keeping buyers "safe" slogan really does amuse me! Basically Ebay is a corrupt system and I'm not sure how they are getting away with it!!!
PRIVATE SELLERS.......... PLEASE DELETE ALL LISTINGS FROM FEB TO PROTEST AGAINST EBAY'S NEW RULES
05-01-2025 2:27 PM
Sadly the number of sellers on Ebay has dropped significantly recently
05-01-2025 2:30 PM
@sheffieldsvintage wrote:Sadly the number of sellers on Ebay has dropped significantly recently
Has it? Have you counted them all?
I'm having no problems finding stuff to buy personally. From toothpaste to teddy bears - no shortage of sellers.
05-01-2025 2:32 PM
@sheffieldsvintage wrote:The keeping buyers "safe" slogan really does amuse me! Basically Ebay is a corrupt system and I'm not sure how they are getting away with it!!!
PRIVATE SELLERS.......... PLEASE DELETE ALL LISTINGS FROM FEB TO PROTEST AGAINST EBAY'S NEW RULES
Are you a business seller having a laugh? Your caps lock is stuck too.
05-01-2025 2:35 PM
'PRIVATE SELLERS.......... PLEASE DELETE ALL LISTINGS FROM FEB TO PROTEST AGAINST EBAY'S NEW RULES '
I have a nasty feeling that wouldn't make any difference at all 🙁
There are always new sellers joining (lots of 'em) and they won't have known what ebay was like before ; they won't know how much nicer and simpler to use ebay was before!
How ebay is when they join, will be the *normal* for them.
And to be honest, the amount of ebayers who actually read these boards is a very small % of users; most users don't even know these boards are here.
(especially since ebay hid the community 'button' in the paler grey 'small print' where legalities and the 'tradmark' stuff is hidden. It used to be top-right corner with 'sell', 'my-ebay' the bell symbol etc and was difficult to miss!)
05-01-2025 2:37 PM
Its not just on here I'll be posting it.........
The more the merrier to get on board
05-01-2025 3:08 PM
We aren't having a laugh we are responding to a post on the community forum. What are you here for?
05-01-2025 6:33 PM
No need to count them, I use stats