05-02-2025 2:54 PM
05-02-2025 5:03 PM
"I cant believe how incompetent the messaging has been on this."
Possibly?
Asking for a friend
05-02-2025 5:05 PM
@vintique*violet wrote:
I never suggested HMRC cared about a business name... it was eBay who stated that there was no need to register as a business - granted this was some time ago and before the online legislation etc etc,
Consumer regs have been around for decades, as has eBay's guidance page.
See eBay's guidance page here, where they state:
An eBay seller must register as a business if, for example, they sell items they have bought to resell, they make items in order to sell them, or if they buy items for their business.
What is the policy?
Business sellers can't represent themselves as private individuals
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05-02-2025 5:14 PM
@moldosgifts wrote:"I cant believe how incompetent the messaging has been on this."
Possibly?
Asking for a friend
I was thinking more along the lines of:
"Oh please stop bothering me! The guys in our IT department have made a complete mess of it, they can't tell us when they'll have it sorted and nobody has told me what spin to give out yet in order to prevent us all looking like a bunch of idiots."
Only a far less polite version.
05-02-2025 5:38 PM - edited 05-02-2025 5:38 PM
I know it’s not the community teams doing, but the communication on this is abysmal.
Surely a clear, concise statement of what, when and who will be affected would do something to allow people to prepare.
05-02-2025 5:54 PM - edited 05-02-2025 5:58 PM
@*vyolla* Yes I know that , I have already said it was a long time ago...I had first hand experience of this and spoke to eBay numerous times, as did my colleague, as at that time I owned a legitimate business and was looking to see how eBay could work with that business. There is no cloak and dagger , it was what I was informed (and others) . I know about the consumer laws and legislation , and eBay policies on private and business accounts. I thought I had made it clear that I was not speaking about now but years ago... and it is correct - there was no " separation" ( can't think of the exact word used ) at that time between private and business on the eBay platform.
Edit to add - my private account is for my personal unwanted items... there is no business being run, my previous business was a " service" and not sales of items etc, mentioning so that people refrain from jumping to the wrong conclusion.
05-02-2025 5:57 PM
I think the issue is that it was so many years ago that no-one has any excuse for still having the wrong sort of account.
05-02-2025 5:58 PM
Admit it. This is a shambles and you're going to lose hundreds of private sellers. Appalling no information at all. I've removed all my listings until this self made mess is sorted out. No wonder eBay only gets 1 star in Trustpilot.
05-02-2025 5:59 PM
Nothing has been implemented at all.
05-02-2025 6:19 PM
I should have made it more clear what I was referring exactly that, but many are failing to see that without private sellers/buyers then businesses would fail, and ebay as an online marketplace would not work...
As I have explained on a different thread - originally there was no differentiation between private and business accounts to be registered, that is factual information from " the powers that be" at eBay many, many years back to myself and a colleague ( accountant) regarding a legitimate business which I owned.
Consumer Law yes, policies are not law, there is a difference.
05-02-2025 6:35 PM
Agreed, policies are not law, but ebay still had to bring in two types of account so that businesses could trade legally and their policy pages make it very clear that sellers have to abide by laws and regulations (which are also law). They couldn't make it clearer but there are still a lot of sellers who refuse to accept that they are breaking a number of laws.
I have nothing against genuine private sellers. I have recently bought a rug, a chair and a pair of curtains from three private sellers, which were exactly what I needed at excellent prices.
I would hate to see them off the site, but I would be very happy to see the law breakers gone from here.
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05-02-2025
6:53 PM
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05-02-2025
7:29 PM
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kh-mfaiz
Thank you. I am a private seller, I do not buy in or make anything. I have had well over a hundred listings in the past three years (Covid apart) due to two deceased relatives & a widowed neighbour all trying to get rid of used items without just throwing them. I also sell donated second hand items for charity. A total hotchpotch of used items. But apart from converting a few items to auctions prior to Feb 4th in anticipation, I have ended all my listings. I am unlikely to come back unless I know that there will be no "buyers fees" on charity listings & no forcing as to how or where I buy my postage of my choice. But even some of the people on these posts are selling in excess of 500 items, all in similar categories & are clearly trading or dealing.
05-02-2025 7:01 PM
I agree with what you say, and it should have been sorted by eBay long ago, it is not a new thing ( Private/business masqueraders particularly those with 1000;s of sales ) ... sadly.
Good that you found items you wanted, sounds like you maybe decorating 😉 I think that is/was part of the joy of eBay, browsing, and searching for something specific that fits your needs and along the way perhaps finding that little something " extra"..I have purchased some excellent items in the past, and lucky enough to replace a vintage wooden unit which had seen the best of days, and the " new " one was in excellent pre-loved condition - although I think it may now be classed as an antique 😉
05-02-2025 7:03 PM
Renovating and furnishing my son's first flat!
05-02-2025 7:04 PM
Now that sounds like a lot of fun ... enjoy making memories.
05-02-2025 7:14 PM
Plus they're busy copping some flak over the app and we don't want a repeat event. At least not at the same time...
05-02-2025 7:49 PM - edited 05-02-2025 7:53 PM
"I have nothing against genuine private sellers"
"I would hate to see them off the site,.."
I'm sure that many business sellers feel the same as you do, but it's also evident that there other business sellers who do think that most everything that's wrong with ebay stems from miscreant private sellers. Some of the anger being seen here is because as always ebay is hitting the wrong people, genuine private sellers.
That's how it looks to private sellers.
All private sellers must give ebay their NINOs because the site is a haven for businesses evading tax.
All private sellers must have their payments delayed because so many businesses are failing to give consumers their rights.
All private sellers must have their pricing interfered with because ebay wants to give the impression that buyers have increased protection, IMO very likely brought about by the same shady businesses cutting corners because they think they get away with that too.
Are these measures getting rid of the law breakers?
I've just read posts by a couple of different business sellers (on the BSB) telling how the non-registered businesses that they keep an eye on are, today, continuing as usual.
Is it any wonder that private sellers are incensed?
IMO they have every right to be. Business sellers are grabbing whatever advantages they can from the situation. But it's Private sellers that are getting hit with all the dis-advantages, as is always the case.
05-02-2025 8:06 PM
Private sellers that are getting hit with all the dis-advantages, as is always the case.
I agree. I've bought lots of hard-to-find stuff from private sellers. Recently, a business customer asked if I could spool the ribbon in 50m lengths. I said no, because I couldn't get the spools, but looked on eBay and there was a person tidying up their workroom because of the fee-free - and she had spools! Four listings, and I bought the lot. I bet she was surprised. Probably wished she'd asked more for them.
eBay needs genuine private sellers. People to whom the item is junk, but to people like me it's just what they're looking for.
06-02-2025 2:14 AM
eBay appears to be trying to figure out how to get UK Buyer Fees launched - but they still don't quite have it right. Listing page clearly shows buyer fee added in to item price, but that doesn't follow through to checkout like it's supposed to.
06-02-2025 4:17 AM - edited 06-02-2025 4:26 AM
06-02-2025 4:30 AM - edited 06-02-2025 4:38 AM
£10.32 showing in the breakdown now. I am also seeing some listings without the 75p being added @valueaddedresource