03-09-2025 2:19 PM
The eBay postage label system is now defaulting to Small Parcel for small, low cost items which were listed and sold with Large Letter postage. In order to get Large Letter to appear as an option, I had to click on another parcel size and then click back onto Large Letter. If you don't notice this, and go with the default, you will be overcharged and out of pocket.
03-09-2025 2:50 PM - edited 03-09-2025 2:51 PM
Large Letter is selected within the Custom postage settings on the listing. There is only one weight option. Apparently this is ideal for sending a sweater. Presumably a very small, thin sweater, sent flat in an envelope. 🤔
03-09-2025 8:18 PM
So despite you creating your listing with Large Letter option < 1kg when it sold eBay decided your Large Letter size was now a Small Parcel when you went to get the label?
That is very worrying! You hear of sellers listing with Royal Mail as their preferred option but when it comes to selling the item and getting a postage label eBay changes it to Evri for some reason?
Is this amateurish programming or a deliberate ploy to catch out unsuspecting sellers? When I was selling (now having a break until Not-So-Simple-Delivery glitches are resolved) I would print off a label in the morning before going to work. Am sure many others do the same so they don't have to make a separate trip. My PO used to be a 5 min walk away - until they closed it, turfed out the postmaster 2 years before his retirement and moved it into a convenience store further away that now requires a car journey.
It used to be so much easier! Well if anything sold that is!
03-09-2025 8:31 PM
@kyanyama wrote:So despite you creating your listing with Large Letter option < 1kg when it sold eBay decided your Large Letter size was now a Small Parcel when you went to get the label?
Exactly. The label screen still recognised that the item specified Large Letter, but the only postage services offered were for Small Parcel.
03-09-2025 9:37 PM
Those examples eBay gives of what (supposedly) fits in a certain size package wind me up on many levels, not that I'm saying there aren't more serious issues.
They're completely and utterly superfluous, for a start. Sellers - even new and/or inexperienced ones - don't need to be patronisingly told what will fit in what size package. Even a seller with poor memory, poor spatial awareness, and possibly even visual impairment would soon know - just through actually trying - whether their item will fit a certain size package or not.
Also, by sheer necessity, eBay is plucking a couple of examples out of a million other possibilities, which makes the ones they do choose look very 'random'.
Worse still, as you have already pointed out, the examples given aren't even particularly good ones, in fact they're quite poor choices on eBay's part. Like you say, that would have to be a very thin, small sweater! And most work gloves I've seen - for gardening, building work, etc. - might fit in a Large Letter if they were placed side by side, but probably not, and certainly not if they were attached to each other (one on top of the other), which is how the vast majority of work gloves are sold.
If anything, the very specificity of these examples could confuse less experienced sellers; they might, for example, be listing a sweater themselves, and interpret eBay's wording as saying 'A sweater will [definitely] fit in a Large Letter-sized package', getting frustrated that theirs doesn't ("What planet are they living on?"), and getting anxious that eBay seems to be telling them to use that package for that item. I admit that this is rather unlikely, but it's still possible, and that possibility wouldn't exist if eBay removed the completely unnecessary wording.
It also winds me up because these little nuggets of 'advice' - the helpfulness of which ranges from negligible to non-existent - seem to be popping up everywhere, but real help from the platform when sellers really need it is too often sorely lacking. That makes the trivial advice seem all the more tokenistic in nature.
Compared to other eBay issues, this is a trivial one, but talking about the bigger picture, I see this unnecessary wording as part of eBay's increased 'steering' of sellers. These little guides, prompts, suggestions, etc. seem to be popping up in more places, and with increased frequency. The "Your buyer has reached out about their order" message that eBay is now inserting into buyer-seller communications is another example, an even worse one!
eBay would no doubt claim that all these things are there to help buyers and sellers, but to me if feels far less like being gently guided through a process than it does being roughly pushed through it. When I first started selling a few years ago, the overall experience was great. It was far from perfect, of course, but, apart from a few things that no seller would have had the power/ability to change (e.g. the level of seller fees, eBay's rules generally), I felt fully in control of my sales activity.
Perhaps the difference between then and now seems starker to me because I've only just resumed selling, and some of my sentiments are no doubt influenced / reinforced by comments I read in the forum, but I feel a lot less empowered than I was before. I feel more like a put-upon employee following the orders barked at me by the boss. When I'm listing, or performing certain other eBay activities, it's almost like the Voice Of eBay is in my head, saying "Do this! Do that! No, don't put that there , put it here! What are you doing, you know you can't do that!". Maybe I ought to see someone. In fact, the way things are going, I can see a new breed of specialist eBay therapists cropping up! "Slapped with an MC011 for no apparent reason? Simple Delivery getting you down? Talk it through with us, and let us help you on your journey to discovering your authentic eBay self. Rates start at just £100 an hour (plus Client Protection Fee)."
Okay, that last bit was in jest, but the point I'm trying to make is a fairly serious one: that, more and more, sellers are being steered and directed towards, and sometimes plain forced into, outcomes that primarily benefit eBay (the imposition of Simple Delivery being the most glaring example). Admittedly, those nonsense 'Fits random object a or random object b' messages in the postage section aren't going to benefit eBay in any discernible way (and I've probably given them far more attention than they warrant), but in my view they are part of the wider pattern of eBay trying to control and manipulate sellers, when it should be focussing on getting its own house in order.
03-09-2025 11:49 PM
"That is very worrying".
Isn't it just? How nice of eBay to keep us all on our toes, and woe betide us if we take our eyes off the ball for just a second (although, to stick with the analogy, it's more a case of 'Spot the ball' at the moment - maybe we could follow it if we knew where it was)!
Another thing sellers using SD need to be aware of - and, as far as I can tell, eBay have made little effort to publicize this - is that your choice of carrier within a specific listing (Evri only, Royal Mail only, or both) is applied globally (retroactively to existing live listings, and to future listings).
This caught me out recently (thank goodness I only had a few listings, and I noticed it - although only by chance). My existing listings were RM only (Evri de-selected), but I was making a new listing, and decided to allow Evri as well as RM - just for that one particular item. When it went live, I just happened to check one of my earlier listings, and saw that Evri was now also an option on that one, even though I had de-selected them at the time of creating the listing.
The above is a word of caution, not a sob story! If anyone deserves sympathy, it's those poor sellers who woke up one morning to find that the postage options on their listings - which sometimes ran into the hundreds - had been altered by eBay. They then had to painstakingly trawl through each listing one by one to try to sort out the mess.
"You hear of sellers listing with Royal Mail as their preferred option but when it comes to selling the item and getting a postage label eBay changes it to Evri for some reason?"
So far, I've only seen two or three posts where a seller has reported that happening, but yes, it does occur, and eBay have put it in their T&Cs that they reserve the right to do so. And, naturally, they also reserve the right to withhold the reason from sellers; in a recent Weekly Chat session I asked for a list of specific circumstances in which eBay would switch a label from the selected carrier to a label for a de-selected one, but of course, I drew a blank on that request!
eBay are getting quite, hmm, shall we say 'concerted', in their efforts to get more sellers to have Evri as an option in their listings. Just look at those new (from 1st September) hikes in label fees for RM medium parcels for sellers who have the temerity to de-select Evri. 'Exorbitant' is one way to describe them. 'Punitive' is another. I wouldn't be surprised, therefore, if this switching by eBay became a more common occurence over time (and it would mainly be switching from RM to Evri, not vice versa). It's becoming quite laughable how desperate eBay are for us to use Evri, like someone trying to fix their ugly, smelly, socially awkward* friend up with someone in a nightclub, and having to resort to force, compulsion and blackmail when they realize that mere persuasion is proving to be ineffective.
* No offence intended to anyone who considers themselves to be ugly, smelly or socially awkward. I possess two of those attributes myself (I shower daily, but sadly that doesn't make me any fairer to behold, nor does it bestow any great self-confidence upon me)!
I do worry about falling foul of this myself one day, as I actually state in my listings that the item will be sent via RM (be that custom postage or SD), which I feel is all the more important now that eBay don't make it obvious to anyone looking at the listing. I don't relish the prospect of having to explain everything to an understandably disgruntled buyer. Also, it's important to remember that receiving an item sent via a different carrier from the one stated in the listing (or that was paid for) is, in itself, sufficient grounds for a buyer to open a Not As Described case. One would like to think that such a case would automatically be closed in the seller's favour where it was eBay who had done the switch (better still, eBay would notify both seller and buyer in advance, and make it abundantly clear to the buyer that it was they, eBay, who had changed the carrier, and not the seller), but even so, it wouldn't be a pleasant experience for the buyer or the seller.
"Is this amateurish programming or a deliberate ploy to catch out unsuspecting sellers?"
I truly believe it's the former. I don't think eBay, for all its faults, is trying to trip sellers up in that way. That really would be testing the limits of sellers' tolerance, not to mention having potential legal ramifications if it could be somehow proved that it was completely intentional on eBay's part. I think it is just a case of sloppy programming (or the AI going rogue), which would be entirely consistent with other aspects of the platform. I don't blame you for having that paranoia and sense of doubt, though - it's something that I now quite often experience when 'eBaying'.
"now having a break until Not-So-Simple-Delivery glitches are resolved"
I'll leave it to other readers to mentally insert their own response to that!
"My PO used to be a 5 min walk away - until they closed it, turfed out the postmaster 2 years before his retirement and moved it into a convenience store further away that now requires a car journey."
Sorry to hear that - what a b*mm*r. My town used to have a large, 'official' Post Office - now it's just a few counters in the corner of a high street shop. And it's not even a 'proper' PO - the staff there (with the possible exception of the manager) are employees of the shop, not 'The Post Office'. After the lockdowns ended, they had months and months of problems - sudden / early closures, staff retention issues, and some simmering internal politics that was evident in the way the staff looked and behaved. I don't know if it was connected, but Amazon removed it from their list of collection points for quite a while, too. But I digress...
"It used to be so much easier!"
You're right there. More fun, too.
04-09-2025 3:40 AM
I stopped selling on Ebay back when it all went a bit odd (having to wait until delivery before you got paid and the buyer having to pay a percentage of something), I think a new charge came into being for buyers (sorry but I can't remember exactly what it was now) but I thought it would make it even harder to sell - there must have been something else too that made me just pull all my listings in frustration. I've just read about the new 'Simple Delivery' with Royal Mail but it doesn't mention small parcels, I would either use that or large letter - are these options still available?
05-09-2025 10:26 AM
I specifically put large letter and the listings reads large letter but still they tried to make me pay small parcel, I have now removed all listings and refunded buyers. Sadly I’m now done with eBay, far too controlling and costing too much, many of my items would go through as regular letter at 87p but eBay insist on tracking which only comes in with large letters, making either buyer or seller over pay on postage, charging for small parcel is the last nail in the eBay coffin for me.
05-09-2025 11:08 AM
@schnauzermud wrote:I specifically put large letter and the listings reads large letter but still they tried to make me pay small parcel, I have now removed all listings and refunded buyers. Sadly I’m now done with eBay, far too controlling and costing too much, many of my items would go through as regular letter at 87p but eBay insist on tracking which only comes in with large letters, making either buyer or seller over pay on postage, charging for small parcel is the last nail in the eBay coffin for me.
Did that happen with each of your items listed with Large Letter?
I was planning on starting back trying to list today but a lot of my items are Large Letter which should be £2.72. If eBay will only allow small parcel then I will be in the same position or increase my bin price to cover it. Am sure we were always advised to list with reasonable postage and packaging costs but that seems to have gone out the window now. I didn't include packaging charges previously as I use recycled packaging mostly. But if only Small Parcel is offered as the label when the item sells then I will have to add the difference to the listing price - or move to a different platform where I'm not being ripped off.
I am sure that buyers who pay the postage (I use included postage) who know an item can be sent as a Large Letter will NOT be happy paying small parcel prices. I don't know how it works with sellers who let the buyers pay but if it shows on the listing £2.72 then will they be charged £3.45 when a label is generated?
It sounds a bit dim but this new fangled system is doing my head in!
05-09-2025 1:27 PM
I haven't listed anything since the new changes, I got so frustrated I just pulled all my listings months ago and haven't tried since, I think it was the same time they introduced the new buyer protection. I often was able to send thin items of clothing as a Large Letter and you're right - buyers do know when what they're buying would fit into one - especially if they sell themselves. It shows on the pre-paid label what the cost was anyway.
I don't understand why Ebay have introduced the buyer protection thing because Royal Mail cover stuff when you use their Tracked24 or Tracked48 anyway, why on earth would a buyer want to pay more? I've been looking for another platform to sell on but not sure about Vinted either, I had a quick look but something put me off but can't remember what it was now. I don't like using phone apps and prefer to do everything on my MacBook so I can actually see what I'm doing 😂.
I'm so annoyed with Ebay .... if it aint broke - don't fix it!
05-09-2025 11:15 PM
@brenata-uk wrote:I don't understand why Ebay have introduced the buyer protection thing because Royal Mail cover stuff when you use their Tracked24 or Tracked48 anyway, why on earth would a buyer want to pay more?
Buyer protection is just the old selling fees/commission rebranded and transferred to something else.
06-09-2025 1:16 PM
totally agree 🙄